After years of Obama claiming he did not have the power to change U.S. Immigration Law, a Federal Appeals Court agrees.
Appeals court rules against Obama immigration plan
Published November 09, 2015 - Associated Press
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/09/appeals-court-rules-against-obama-immigration-plan/
NEW ORLEANS – President Obama's plan to protect from deportation an estimated 5 million people living in the United States illegally suffered another setback Monday in a ruling from a New Orleans-based federal appeals court.
In a 2-1 ruling, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a Texas-based federal judge's injunction blocking the administration's immigration initiative.
Republicans had criticized the plan as an illegal executive overreach when Obama announced it last November. Twenty-six states challenged the plan in court.
The administration argued that the executive branch was within its rights in deciding to defer deportation of selected groups of immigrants, including children who were brought to the U.S. illegally.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott was praised the ruling.
"President Obama should abandon his lawless executive amnesty program and start enforcing the law today," Abbott said in a news release.
The ruling further dims prospects of implementation of the executive action before Obama leaves office in 2017. Appeals over the injunction could take months and, depending on how the case unfolds, it could go back to the Texas federal court for more proceedings.
Part of the initiative included expansion of a program called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, protecting young immigrants from deportation if they were brought to the U.S. illegally as children. The other major part, Deferred Action for Parents of Americans, would extend deportation protections to parents of U.S. citizens and permanent residents who have been in the country for years.
The 70-page majority opinion by Judge Jerry Smith, joined by Jennifer Walker Elrod, rejected administration arguments that the district judge abused his discretion with a nationwide order and that the states lacked standing to challenge Obama's executive orders.
They acknowledged an argument that an adverse ruling would discourage potential beneficiaries of the plan from cooperating with law enforcement authorities or paying taxes. "But those are burdens that Congress knowingly created, and it is not our place to second-guess those decisions," Smith wrote.
In a 53-page dissent, Judge Carolyn Dineen King said the administration was within the law, casting the decision to defer action on some deportations as "quintessential exercises of prosecutorial discretion," and noting that the Department of Homeland Security has limited resources.
"Although there are approximately 11.3 million removable aliens in this country today, for the last several years Congress has provided the Department of Homeland Security with only enough resources to remove approximately 400,000 of those aliens per year," King wrote.
Point: US Constitution
Point: US Constitution
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Exactly.
A great win for The Constitution and the rule of law.
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”
? Emma Lazarus
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”? Emma Lazarus
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I don't see in the passage anything about your terrorists, drug dealers, arms smugglers, murderers and rapists.
What percentage of refugees do you think fall into those categories Muleman?
Never mind. Go back to your corner and continue to bang your head against the wall.
What percentage of refugees do you think fall into those categories Muleman?
Never mind. Go back to your corner and continue to bang your head against the wall.
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No one knows, especially Obama.
His senior advisor for communications Ben Rhoades, brother of the CBS News president, claimed this morning that the Obama administration has a robust comprehensive plan to vet the Syrian refugees coming to The U.S.
What a f*cking liar.
The Syrian refugees cannot even be identified much less vetted. There are no records to have or evaluate. Rhoades stated that they will be fully interviewed. Right.
The French have now figured out that this crap has to stop.
Obama will convene a meeting.
And that is just the tens of thousands of Syrian refugees Obama in giving asylum.
For the rest freely coming across our southern border all you have to do is ask a border patrol agent or the families of those assaulted, raped, robbed and murdered.
Don’t look for those stories in the liberal mainstream media. They are suppressing that news.
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”? Emma Lazarus
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I don't see in the passage anything about your terrorists, drug dealers, arms smugglers, murderers and rapists.
How trump of you.
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”? Emma Lazarus
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I don't see in the passage anything about your terrorists, drug dealers, arms smugglers, murderers and rapists.
How trump of you.
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Trump does see the importance of national security and the safety of American Citizens.
Liberals don't seem to care.
As was proven on Friday night in Paris it takes but a handful of Islamic Extremist Terrorists to kill at least 129 people and injure over 300.
You seem to be regurgitating Obama’s excuse that we are not at war with Islam. That of course is not what anyone else is saying. The war is against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama is currently allowing tens of thousands of Syrian refugees to freely flow into the U.S. with no vetting whatsoever. The ISIS terrorists among the Syrian refugees have but one mission and that is to kill us.
If you don’t think so ask a Parisian today or the families of those murdered on 9/11.
Where is the outrage?
At the Democrat debate Saturday night not one of those parties’ candidates showed any outrage or resolve to combat Islamic Extremist Terrorism. They spent more time not answering why they will not call it what it is.
Islamic Extremist Terrorists are murdering thousands of people worldwide with virtual impunity. Their mantra is “submit or die”. What part of that does the left not get?
The theme of this thread is right on point. The majority of States have said that Obama’s Immigration (amnesty) order is illegal and two federal courts agreed and stopped it. Obama continues to ignore U.S. Immigration law and refuses to control The U.S. borders.
As a result American citizens are being assaulted, robbed, raped and murdered. Arms and drugs are free flowing into the U.S.
Whether the illegal immigrant coming into the U.S. is someone fleeing oppression or are a drug or arms trafficker or criminal is unknown but it is happening and The American People have and will suffer the consequences.
I have a legit question: The rationale appears to be that even though only a tiny percentage of Muslims are Islamic extremists capable of harmful and despicable acts, all not only Muslim immigrants but immigrants of any nationality and culture must be kept out of the us for our safety. But the argument for everyone having guns is that only a tiny percentage of people with guns do despicable acts only only harm a tiny percentage of the population. Stuff just happens. How does that work?
I have a legit question: The rationale appears to be that even though only a tiny percentage of Muslims are Islamic extremists capable of harmful and despicable acts, all not only Muslim immigrants but immigrants of any nationality and culture must be kept out of the us for our safety. But the argument for everyone having guns is that only a tiny percentage of people with guns do despicable acts only only harm a tiny percentage of the population. Stuff just happens. How does that work?
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No one is saying "immigrants of any nationality and culture must be kept out of the us for our safety".
What the people are saying that immigration must be controlled at the borders and background checks be done and convicted criminals be permanently deported. None of that is happening now.
As was proven in Paris it takes but a handful to inflict carnage. As has been proven many times convicted felons are being released on to the streets, ICE no longer deports them and they are assaulting, robbing, raping and murdering American Citizens.
I have a legit question: The rationale appears to be that even though only a tiny percentage of Muslims are Islamic extremists capable of harmful and despicable acts, all not only Muslim immigrants but immigrants of any nationality and culture must be kept out of the us for our safety. But the argument for everyone having guns is that only a tiny percentage of people with guns do despicable acts only only harm a tiny percentage of the population. Stuff just happens. How does that work?
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No one is saying "immigrants of any nationality and culture must be kept out of the us for our safety".
What the people are saying that immigration must be controlled at the borders and background checks be done and convicted criminals be permanently deported. None of that is happening now.
As was proven in Paris it takes but a handful to inflict carnage. As has been proven many times convicted felons are being released on to the streets, ICE no longer deports them and they are assaulting, robbing, raping and murdering American Citizens.
Thanks for a legit response mule. My question is why go through all that trouble when it's such a tiny fraction of the population that is affected? And I'm asking this somewhat rhetorical question vis a vie the argument against limiting the number and types of guns we are allowed to own and carry since the damage caused by our policies affects so few people and that "stuff happens."
I have a legit question: The rationale appears to be that even though only a tiny percentage of Muslims are Islamic extremists capable of harmful and despicable acts, all not only Muslim immigrants but immigrants of any nationality and culture must be kept out of the us for our safety. But the argument for everyone having guns is that only a tiny percentage of people with guns do despicable acts only only harm a tiny percentage of the population. Stuff just happens. How does that work?
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No one is saying "immigrants of any nationality and culture must be kept out of the us for our safety".
What the people are saying that immigration must be controlled at the borders and background checks be done and convicted criminals be permanently deported. None of that is happening now.
As was proven in Paris it takes but a handful to inflict carnage. As has been proven many times convicted felons are being released on to the streets, ICE no longer deports them and they are assaulting, robbing, raping and murdering American Citizens.
Thanks for a legit response mule. My question is why go through all that trouble when it's such a tiny fraction of the population that is affected? And I'm asking this somewhat rhetorical question vis a vie the argument against limiting the number and types of guns we are allowed to own and carry since the damage caused by our policies affects so few people and that "stuff happens."
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On the "limiting the number and types of guns we are allowed to own and carry" that will do nothing to stop the gun violence.
It is the illegal guns easily obtained by criminals on the streets. Politicians are not proposing any legislation that would get those gun away from the criminals
That, coupled with the lack of law enforcement is getting by far the majority of people killed.
Too often, like in Chicago, people who kill others with guns are plea bargained to minor crimes and spend little if any time in jail.
It would also help if the government would secure weapons:
The FBI was assisting authorities in Massachusetts in searching for weapons that were stolen from an Army Reserve training and recruitment facility this weekend.
Of course the rest of the problem is the lack of an adequate mental health system and the degrading culture. Good luck fixing that.
[Edited on 11/16/2015 by Muleman1994]
As was proven on Friday night in Paris it takes but a handful of Islamic Extremist Terrorists to kill at least 129 people and injure over 300.
You seem to be regurgitating Obama’s excuse that we are not at war with Islam. That of course is not what anyone else is saying. The war is against Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Obama is currently allowing tens of thousands of Syrian refugees to freely flow into the U.S. with no vetting whatsoever. The ISIS terrorists among the Syrian refugees have but one mission and that is to kill us.
If you don’t think so ask a Parisian today or the families of those murdered on 9/11.
Where is the outrage?
At the Democrat debate Saturday night not one of those parties’ candidates showed any outrage or resolve to combat Islamic Extremist Terrorism. They spent more time not answering why they will not call it what it is.
Islamic Extremist Terrorists are murdering thousands of people worldwide with virtual impunity. Their mantra is “submit or die”. What part of that does the left not get?
The theme of this thread is right on point. The majority of States have said that Obama’s Immigration (amnesty) order is illegal and two federal courts agreed and stopped it. Obama continues to ignore U.S. Immigration law and refuses to control The U.S. borders.As a result American citizens are being assaulted, robbed, raped and murdered. Arms and drugs are free flowing into the U.S.
Whether the illegal immigrant coming into the U.S. is someone fleeing oppression or are a drug or arms trafficker or criminal is unknown but it is happening and The American People have and will suffer the consequences.
You are a little tiny frightened boy. You cry out to the government, "Protect me! Protect me! I'm scared. There are bad people in the world use your might big daddy government to keep them out of the country."
You even have the audacity to say that ISIS committed the attacks on 9/11. You are as bad as Hillary justifying her Wall Street ties by 9/11. Why don't you just join her campaign?
You are truly pathetic.
[Edited on 11/16/2015 by BillyBlastoff]
"Tens of thousands of young men disembark from their rubber dinghies with iPad in hand, and instead of asking for drink or food, they ask where they can charge their cellphones," Waszczykowski reportedly said.
"We send our soldiers to fight in Syria while hundreds of thousands of Syrians drink their coffee in (Berlin's) Unter den Linden," said Waszczykowski in a televised address on Sunday, according to AFP.
"Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have come to Europe recently. We can help them form an army. They can go to fight to liberate their country with our help," he said. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/paris-attack-poland-foreign-minister-wants-syrian-refugees-trained-fight-isis-654941
I'm all for arming and training refugees and sending them back to fight for their homeland. But it seems to me you want to put American boots on the ground. You keep complaining about Obama doing nothing... what exactly are you suggesting?
I'm all for arming and training refugees and sending them back to fight for their homeland. But it seems to me you want to put American boots on the ground. You keep complaining about Obama doing nothing... what exactly are you suggesting?
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We are calling on Obama to get in the war and stop his policy of doing the least he is willing to do.
Leadership matters.
We are suggesting the Obama actually listen to his military leaders. But so far when a Sec. of Defense or senior military advisor has told truth to power, Obama fired them or forced them to resign.
You want boots on the ground? I'm sure you can put your ass in a plane, go over there and do some fighting. I'm an American and I say NO boots on the ground.
What is your end game Mule? Further destabilize the Middle East? Maybe three, four, five or six more ISIL's will grow out of another bull$hit war. Iraq worked out so well why don't we just keep making the same mistake?
We are calling on Obama? Who the hell is "we"? It ain't me. You don't speak for all Americans.
You want boots on the ground? I'm sure you can put your ass in a plane, go over there and do some fighting. I'm an American and I say NO boots on the ground.
What is your end game Mule? Further destabilize the Middle East? Maybe three, four, five or six more ISIL's will grow out of another bull$hit war. Iraq worked out so well why don't we just keep making the same mistake?
We are calling on Obama? Who the hell is "we"? It ain't me. You don't speak for all Americans.
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And you speak for the weak.
We are suggesting the Obama actually listen to his military leaders. So far he has rejected all plans to defeat Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
What is my end game? The same thing most American citizens, most of the world’s civilized people want; the defeat of Islamic Extremist Terrorism.
Further destabilize the Middle East? – That is the old lie the weak on the left have been saying for years. They are the same people who don’t care how many people are murdered as human life has no value to a liberal.
Who the hell is "we"? – The majority of American citizens and a fast growing bi-partisan coalition of Congress. Even the mainstream media is not buying Obama’s pathetic response and called him on it today.
What is your plan to defeat Islamic Extremist Terrorism or do just accept many thousands of deaths?
What are you? Some kind of internet tough guy? Real tough behind your key board.
Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin’
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it’s your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain
You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people’s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud
You’ve thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain’t worth the blood
That runs in your veins
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I’m young
You might say I’m unlearned
But there’s one thing I know
Though I’m younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death’ll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand o’er your grave
’Til I’m sure that you’re dead
Copyright © 1963 by Warner Bros. Inc.; renewed 1991 by Special Rider Music
Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/masters-war#ixzz3rh3PxIuo
What are you? Some kind of internet tough guy? Real tough behind your key board.
Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masksYou that never done nothin’
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it’s your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets flyLike Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drainYou fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people’s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mudYou’ve thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain’t worth the blood
That runs in your veinsHow much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I’m young
You might say I’m unlearned
But there’s one thing I know
Though I’m younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you doLet me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soulAnd I hope that you die
And your death’ll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand o’er your grave
’Til I’m sure that you’re deadCopyright © 1963 by Warner Bros. Inc.; renewed 1991 by Special Rider Music
Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/masters-war#ixzz3rh3PxIuo/blockquote >
________________________________________________________________________What is your plan to defeat Islamic Extremist Terrorism or do just accept many thousands of deaths?
Admit it Billy, its going to take more than a jobs program to handle ISIS .
bombing may not solve everything but will at least make things more unpredictable and not allow them to only worry about drone strikes. either secure the oil or render the oil extraction infrastructure in -operable.
Remove the military rules of engagement constraints and defeat ISIS.
Pray for our men and women to do the job and come home safely.
A real leader would have assembled a better coalition by now of willing countries that recognize the threat and are on-board.
All we have been hearing about is "Its complicated" and that seems to have come back to bite our allies in a serious way.
Pray for our men and women to do the job and come home safely.
Another religious nutjob itching for war.
I'm all for arming and training refugees and sending them back to fight for their homeland. But it seems to me you want to put American boots on the ground. You keep complaining about Obama doing nothing... what exactly are you suggesting?
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We are calling on Obama to get in the war and stop his policy of doing the least he is willing to do.
Leadership matters.
We are suggesting the Obama actually listen to his military leaders. But so far when a Sec. of Defense or senior military advisor has told truth to power, Obama fired them or forced them to resign.
Apparently you weren't paying attention to what happened to the economy the last time we went into an unnecessary war. Yes, it devastated the economy and did more damage to theUS than the cause of the wars themselves. Would you be wiling to pay higher taxes to pay for this war you call for? If not, then STFU and crawl back into your hole from which you came!
Admit it Billy, its going to take more than a jobs program to handle ISIS .
Ok.
I guess that is why we bombed all those tanker trucks today and provided France with the intelligence they needed for those bombing runs.
We have been droning these guys for years. We have sent over military advisors. We are providing weapons.
I'll echo 2112's question, How much are you willing to personally sacrifice for a ground war? Higher taxes? Gas rationing? Food rationing? The lives of your children or grandchildren?
Admit it Billy, its going to take more than a jobs program to handle ISIS .
Ok.
I guess that is why we bombed all those tanker trucks today and provided France with the intelligence they needed for those bombing runs.
We have been droning these guys for years. We have sent over military advisors. We are providing weapons.
I'll echo 2112's question, How much are you willing to personally sacrifice for a ground war? Higher taxes? Gas rationing? Food rationing? The lives of your children or grandchildren?
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What little Obama has done to date has had little to no effect. ISIS is still growing and innocent people are being murdered.
Again I ask you : What is your plan to defeat Islamic Extremist Terrorism or do just accept many thousands of deaths?
Admit it Billy, its going to take more than a jobs program to handle ISIS .
Ok.
I guess that is why we bombed all those tanker trucks today and provided France with the intelligence they needed for those bombing runs.
We have been droning these guys for years. We have sent over military advisors. We are providing weapons.
I'll echo 2112's question, How much are you willing to personally sacrifice for a ground war? Higher taxes? Gas rationing? Food rationing? The lives of your children or grandchildren?
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What little Obama has done to date has had little to no effect. ISIS is still growing and innocent people are being murdered.
Again I ask you : What is your plan to defeat Islamic Extremist Terrorism or do just accept many thousands of deaths?
I don't have a plan. Tell me yours and what you are willing to pay to make it happen. Would you be willing to pay an additional $5,000 in your yearly tax bill to start a war? $6,000 and the death of your son? No more wars on a credit card. I'm personally not afraid of terrorists. I hate them, but I have no more fear of them than I do some random wacko with an assult rifle shooting up the movie theater, shopping mall, concert, game or restaurant I'm in. That's life in the modern world. But if you want to waste your tax dollars and the lives of our military heros for an unwinnable war, I'd love to see what your willing to sacrifice.
