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GHSLAINE MAXWELL

"For Ghislaine, presumably, outer space is not an option. But in point of fact, she does know how to operate a lot of exotic machinery. In addition to speaking four languages and holding a degree from Oxford, she’s a trained private helicopter pilot, a submersible pilot and qualified to operate undersea robots. Much was made of the latter qualifications when she was fund-raising for her now defunct TerraMar oceanic environmental project, which shuttered after Epstein’s arrest last month. "

8-18-19 Dana Kennedy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-friend-ghislaine-maxwell-has- more-skeletons-in-her-family-closet-than-a-house-of-horrors

From the article about Skeletons in the Closet

She is trained as a submersible pilot and qualified to operate undersea robots. Who provides training like that? Military would, or maybe she's a marine biologist like George Costanza in that Seinfeld episode.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/military/sd-me-spawar-robots-20170922-story.html

The photo at the In and Out with Her Close friend and attorney was photoshopped. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7372877/Ghislaine-Maxwell-STAGED-photo-N-close-friend-attorney.html

https://www.guidestar.org/profile/45-5091884
Project founded 2012, offered lesson plans targeting students 5- 18 years old.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=18138
Terramar Project Inc
150 Presidential Way No. 510
Woburn, MA 01801

https://trademarks.justia.com/858/25/terramar-85825072.html
Correspondence Monte Albers de Leon
Director of Development Brian Yurasits

https://nypost.com/2019/07/27/feds-probe-socialites-mysterious-ocean-charity-over-links-to-jeffrey-epstein/

July 21, 2019 Ghislaine brought Clinton to Epstein – Bruce Golding
https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/ghislaine-maxwell-brought-bill-clinton-to-jeffrey-epstein-report/

https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/ghislaine-maxwell-taught-epstein-victim-proper-way-to-perform-oral-sex-suit/
8-20 Emily Saul and and Lisa Eustachewich

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/17/ghislaine-maxwell-donated-hospital-epstein-victim-treated-alleged/

https://nypost.com/2019/08/18/epsteins-gal-pal-gave-1k-to-hospital-that-treated-alleged-sex-slave-report/

Was/is Ms. Maxwell an agent for one of the intelligence agencies?

[Edited on 8/20/2019 by gina]

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Posted : August 20, 2019 2:45 pm
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Epstein's will was prepared two days before he was coincidentally dead.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-will-leaves-dollar577-million-to-mysterious-trust?ref=home
His assets were put in a a protected instrument called The 1953 Trust. The trust keeps the beneficiary private. He set up corporation to own his properties, Cypress Inc. for the New Mexico ranch, Laurel Inc. for the Palm Beach home, SCI JEP a French company for the property in Paris at 22 Avenue Foch, Poplar Inc holds the title to great St. James Island, and Nautilus, Inc. holds the title to Little St. James Island. Indyke & Kahn are the attorneys, they are using a Virgin Islands firm, Kellerhalls, Ferguson & Krobin, PLLC as their attorneys. Erika Kellerhals is one of Epstein’s attorneys named in tax documents for his charities and a partner of the firm. [she could be the mystery woman who would come to consult with him in the attorney offices at the Metropolitan Correctional Center jail].

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7376195/Jeffrey-Epstein-named-Bill-Gates-science-adviser-Boris-Nikolic-executor-will.html

REMARK: Impeccable timing, saving his assets putting them into trusts. Makes you wonder if he really is dead, or the photo of him on the gurney was photoshopped also to get him out of a big mess.


 
Posted : August 20, 2019 2:48 pm
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There are more things that have come out, the Prime Minister was from Australia.

• Woman in Video is Ex Australian Prime Minister’s daughter Kathleen Keating. – Margie Murphy Los Angeles, Nick Allen and Rozina Sabur
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/20/woman-video-prince-andrew-jeffrey-epsteins-house-daughter-ex/

Katherine Keating, 37, was identified as the mystery brunette seen waving goodbye to the Duke [Andrew] as she left Epstein's house in New York in 2010.


 
Posted : August 20, 2019 2:49 pm
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The real rub (pardon the pun) is WHY this case will never be taken seriously or have anything done about it and that goes back to the original case:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

October 2007 Miami top Prosecutor Alex Acosta (named US Attorney for Miami by George W Bush) met with jay Lefkowitz former colleague at Kirland & Ellis Law Firm. 53 page federal indictment he could have did life in jail instead he served only 13 months, during which time he was housed at the jail and allowed to leave for 12 hours a day to go work in an office in a “Non Prosecution Agreement”.

This agreement shut down the FBI probe.

He plead guilty to 2 prostitution charges in state court. Epstein and 4 accomplices received immunity from all federal criminal charges and granted immunity to any potential co-conspirators who were involved in his crimes.
The deal was kept hidden from the victims and was sealed until after approved by the Judge.

Acosta was given the job as Secretary of Labor under Trump’s administration. But that position has the oversight responsibilities on issues including human trafficking. [he subsequently resigned his position before the current situation came about].

While the US Attorney in Miami, Acosta allowed Epstein’s lawyers to dictate the terms of the non prosecution agreements. Bradley Edwards former state prosecutor representing some of Epstein’s victims asked how do you the US attorney engage in negotiation with a criminal defendant allowing the defendant to write up the agreement? Question not adequately answered.

As a result of Acosta letting them do this, neither the victims or judge would know how many girls were abused between 2001 and 2005. The Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter said there were 50 women. Courtney Wild now 30 years old was 14 at the time.

Epstein’s case happened when the financial crisis of 2008 hit. He was a federal witness against 2 executives of Bear Stearns. Epstein was one of the largest investors in the hedge fund managed by the executives who were charged with securities fraud and later acquitted.

*Herald identifies 80 women from 2001 to 2006 that were abused by Epstein. 8 agreed to interviews, 4 willing to do videos. One died last year in a run down motel in WPB.

Epstein repaid restitution to 36 victims identified by the FBI.

2011 Acosta said he was pressured by Epstein’s lawyers including Kenneth Starr (Whitewater prosecutor) etc.

REMARKS: He was given immunity from prosecution for other crimes that they knew about, crimes involving what the Palm Beach Police Chief said involved 50 girls. The Judge was not even allowed to know how many girls were involved, and was able to write this deal up totally going above the prosecutor on the case!

IMPRESSION: Epstein was gotten out of jail, will hang out and live his life wheeling and dealing under some other name/corporation/identity with the full knowledge of persons in the government. Things will go on as they have for years with all the guilty people enjoying their guilty pleasures and keeping their mouths shut; look how long this has gone on for. Look how many people were involved. Do you think the idea of creating a perfect race will stop? Eugenics has been a dream of many twisted people for a very long time. Prince Andrew keeps denying everything in spite of their being pictures of him and Ms. Giuffre, pictures and video of him waving goodbye from inside Epstein's mansion to a brunette, etc. etc.

We cannot stop evil because the people with the most money are the most evil and have the most power. We can be aware of it, launch our own little protests like not patronize businesses they own and prepare for the day when Jesus comes back to wage the grand jihad against all the evil on the planet, that day will come. Be prepared to get off the grid when necessary, be prepared for totalitarianism if and when it comes to our shores. Did you know Trump wants to re-institute the NSA spying program permanently? Well he does. The regular people need to be spied on while the wealthy continue in their high crimes and hypocrisy as they get their wet dreams of their new world order and enslaving everybody else. Yes we live in those times.

(One a side note :One thing, much speculation exist(s) about that portrait of Bill Clinton. I read that it was a spoof on the Monica Lewinsky matter, the furniture in the picture is from the Oval Office from the time he was there, the blue dress was symbolic of her dress. It was like a running joke; it was not a revelation that he is a transvestite).

[Edited on 8/20/2019 by gina]


 
Posted : August 20, 2019 3:00 pm
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Giuffre doesn't want the Epstein saga to end without her getting some justice from Prince Andrew.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/20/jeffrey-epstein-women-sue-estate-latest

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/19/prince-andrew-urged-to-tell-all-he-knows-about-jeffrey-epstein

"On Monday Brad Edwards, a lawyer for Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, who claims she was made to have sex with the prince, told the Guardian: “I look forward to coordinating a formal deposition where [Andrew] will be given the opportunity to tell us everything he knows. We would like to do this as soon as possible, at his convenience, and again we are very appreciative of his willingness to help.”

The video of Andrew.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367511/Prince-Andrew-pictured-inside-paedophile-Jeffrey-Epsteins-63million-mansion-depravity.html

Giuffre has previously stated she was paid $15,000 to have sex with him, and other articles have said that Epstein would loan his girls out for $100,000 per night.

[Edited on 8/20/2019 by gina]


 
Posted : August 20, 2019 3:20 pm
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Lunatic fringe, I know you're out there.....


 
Posted : August 20, 2019 5:18 pm
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I am sorry this story shook you up so bad. Was gonna post some snark but then it occurred to me you are really going off on this, you have been rattlling on since it occurred.. I agree it is a sick saga, also agree that you can't touch these types - best thing is to ignore them and not feed the power of their mythology. They are just sick little people with lots of money who live in a dark world - you want folks to care and that is a good thing, but all the speculation and wildeyed guessing is just peasants telling stories about their masters and building legends around worthless filth better forgotten.


 
Posted : August 21, 2019 6:47 am
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Laid to rest in an unmarked tomb beside parents.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7364125/Jeffrey-Epstein-laid-rest-parents-Jewish-mausoleum-Florida.html

The cemetery is usually closed for the Sabbath, but not for Jeffrey, just as all the other doors opened for him, so did the gates to eternity. After a small funeral at Frank E. Campbell Funeral Chapel on Madison Avenue in NYC, his body was taken and entombed at the West Palm Beach cemetery his parents are entombed at. I J Morris Star of David where a space is $250,000.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380929/Epstein-gamed-grave.html
the will 8-21-19 he put all the assets in trust so that they would not be made public. The will was filed in the Virgin Islands so that any claims against the estate would have to be filed there as well. The accusers will need Virgin Island Lawyers to file proceedings there or the current lawyers need to take the bar and be licensed in the Virgin Islands.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380225/Jeffrey-Epstein-sexually-assaulted-rape-victim-18-plainclothes-deputies-stood-feet-away.html
Alleged dirty deeds done in public while on work release.


 
Posted : August 24, 2019 12:25 pm
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THE DRESS AND CLINTON PAINTING - He did NOT pose for it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7381203/Man-posed-Clinton-dress-painting-speaks-out.html

The student who posed for the painting of Clinton in a dress and the man who painted it. The French model, Christophe Nayal, the painter, Petrina Ryan Kleid and how the painting went from the NY Academy of Art to Epsteins lair at 9 E. 71 St.


 
Posted : August 24, 2019 12:26 pm
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EIGHT GUARDS Assigned to monitor Epstein in his cell on 9 South at MCC. So why does nobody know what happened?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7381623/Eight-prison-officials-knew-ignored-orders-Jeffrey-Epstein-not-allowed-left-alone.html

His cellmate related in another story that he himself had been threatened with a note he sent to complain about conditions coming back and being slit with a razor blade and that he was told not to complain.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-7380279/Epstein-case-judge-invites-accusers-hearing-week.html

[Edited on 8/24/2019 by gina]


 
Posted : August 24, 2019 12:30 pm
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JEAN LUC BRUNEL -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7371693/Jean-Luc-Brunel-gave-Jeffrey-Epstein-three-poor-12-year-old-triplets-France-birthday-present.html

Triplets for Epstein's birthday as a present? Just coming for one night, and then flown back to Paris?

AND photos of the women seeking to sue Epstein, including Ms. Giuffre photos of her then and now as a 35 years old married women with 3 kids (who lives in Australia).

[Edited on 8/24/2019 by gina]


 
Posted : August 24, 2019 12:35 pm
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Although I am glad this snake is dead, what makes this all the more disturbing is the question lurking just off camera: "What would I do if I had unlimited funds?" This story implicates our nature in an ugly and scary way. Even closer to home is how a lot of us music fans have at worst admired or at best ignored similar behaviors by our rock idols.

Rather than use these horrors as a pedestal from which to broadcast our righteousness - Maybe a positive takeaway, the best way to heal is to view these terrible stories of money, lust, murder, and mayhem as a mirror of our collective psyche to reflect light on ourslves to dispel our own darkness.

Epstein died for our sins.

[Edited on 8/25/2019 by BrerRabbit]


 
Posted : August 25, 2019 7:20 am
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Very true everything you said. On the one hand the story of a poor kid from Coney Island becoming a rich hedge fund manager leading a life like that it is fascinating but worse and yes I will post links, we have to look at our own selves. We can criticize Jean Luc Brunel for his dealings with Epstein but he is very sexy and truth be told half the women you could ask would tell you they are attracted to his looks. If they were 15 or 16 would they sleep with him? Many would want to. Are we all hypocrites? Our culture promote the ideas of if I want it I can have it making excuses and justifying it. Look at the song Good Clean Fun "if you don't want to love me somebody else will", not a lot different than a sexy model scout looking for young women. There is a lot more that this whole case can teach people about themselves and our culture.


 
Posted : August 28, 2019 12:49 pm
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Ghislaine Maxwell, friend, associate to Jeffrey Epstein is to do a 'tell all' interview with the BBC where she reportedly will support Prince Andrew in his denials that he had anything to do with Virginia Roberts, BUT there is evidence that may not be so.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/02/email-from-prince-andrew-seems-to-show-he-does-remember-virginia-giuffre/

"The royal has insisted he doesn’t remember ever meeting Giuffre, who says she was sex-trafficked to Andrew by his sick pal Epstein in 2001.

An email from the prince shows Giuffre was at least on Andrew’s mind four years ago, the BBC said.

The UK broadcaster said it had a copy of an email sent “From: Duke of York” to pedophile Epstein’s socialite sidekick, Ghislaine Maxwell, in 2015. That’s the year Giuffre sued Maxwell for defamation amid Giuffre’s claims that Epstein raped and trafficked her.

“Let me know when we can talk. Got some specific questions to ask you about Virginia Roberts,” the prince allegedly wrote to Maxwell.

Maxwell responded, “Have some info. Call me when you have a moment,” the BBC said."

The BBC said it has an affidavit from Giuffre’s boyfriend in 2001 saying he saw the picture of her with the prince at the time and that she told him she was forced to have sex with the royal.

The photographer whom Giuffre allowed to snap a copy of the shot, making it public, added to the broadcaster, “There’s no way that photo is fake.

“It wasn’t like [Giuffre] pulled the photo of Prince Andrew out — it was just in amongst the rest of them. These were 5-by-7 photos that looked like they had come from [a London drug store], nothing more complicated than that. They were just typical teenage snaps.”

https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/ghislaine-maxwell-planning-tv-tell-all-about-epstein-scandal/
“She will do a sit-down interview with a big US network and defend the duke. Apparently, she’ll say Virginia Giuffre is lying and Andrew never had sex with her,” the source told the UK paper.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10509700/ghislaine-maxwell-tell-all-interview-prince-andrew/

Andrew maintains that he was attending a childrens pizza party at the time.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/16/prince-andrew-denies-sex-with-teenager-as-at-home-after-pizza-party

Ms. Roberts said there were three times he had sex with her.


 
Posted : December 10, 2019 12:40 pm
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Are we all hypocrites?

Yes


 
Posted : December 11, 2019 8:21 am
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Andrew maintains that he was attending a childrens pizza party at the time.

Yes, Andrew (the adult) and Virginia Roberts (the child) shared a pizza after sex.

Thus, Andrew was attending a children's pizza party.


 
Posted : December 12, 2019 9:24 am
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