The American People have spoken and said loud and clear that We The People reject Obama and his failed policies specifically and Reid and the Democrats policy of obstruction in general.
The People chose Republicans to lead and to get the work of the country done.
From the Senate, The House, The Governorships and State Legislatures the liberals were kicked to the curb and people that can actually get the job done were elected en mass.
The message to the Democrats was clear: stop the politics of hate, race hustling, over regulation, government mismanagement, corruption, malfeasance and lying.
Obama himself, out campaigning at tax-payers expense to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, said while he was not on the ballot this election, his polities were. Every one of them.
The American citizens wholesale rejected his failed policies.
Now the people can get their freedoms back, get a good job again and be proud of their country.
It is a good day to be an American again.
[Edited on 11/5/2014 by Muleman1994]
hopefully we have seen the last of bills passing without reading, operating the gov without a budget, a wacky energy policy, a lack of economic focus, and gov agencies running wild needing to be put back in check.
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting. And just for you, I'll take voter Id off the table. There are other voter Id suppression efforts that are effective.
I assume you would attribute all of these actions of dividing people I've just listed as acts of Democrats?
[Edited on 11/5/2014 by MartinD28]
Who has the history of making it hard to vote?
Mike
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting. And just for you, I'll take voter Id off the table. There ar other voter Id suppression efforts that are effective.
I assume you would attribute all of these actions of dividing people I've just listed as acts of Democrats?
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Republicans don’t close abortion clinics. They make sure they are clean and the doctors have admitting privileges at a hospital. The Republicans do want the abortion mills like the one operated in Philadelphia by the now convicted abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell who was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
Blood on the walls and floor, fetuses in plastic bags thrown on the floor in the hallways, filthy operating rooms and left women to bleed to death is not acceptable.
Voting against equal pay for women? Wrong. That bill, written by democrats was a travesty and more social engineering. That bill failed to address the equal pay for equal jobs issue and would have made it harder for women to take time off after childbirth. Add to that the dozens of spending amendment attached to it.
Obama’s own administration, while calling for equal pay for women as a political ploy, does not itself pay women equally.
The hypocrisy of the liberals is shameful but the liberals have no shame.
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting. And just for you, I'll take voter Id off the table. There ar other voter Id suppression efforts that are effective.
I assume you would attribute all of these actions of dividing people I've just listed as acts of Democrats?
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Republicans don’t close abortion clinics. They make sure they are clean and the doctors have admitting privileges at a hospital. The Republicans do want the abortion mills like the one operated in Philadelphia by the now convicted abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell who was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
Blood on the walls and floor, fetuses in plastic bags thrown on the floor in the hallways, filthy operating rooms and left women to bleed to death is not acceptable.Voting against equal pay for women? Wrong. That bill, written by democrats was a travesty and more social engineering. That bill failed to address the equal pay for equal jobs issue and would have made it harder for women to take time off after childbirth. Add to that the dozens of spending amendment attached to it.
Obama’s own administration, while calling for equal pay for women as a political ploy, does not itself pay women equally.The hypocrisy of the liberals is shameful but the liberals have no shame.
Actually, that bill was drafted and marked up in such a way that the Democrats knew it wouldn't pass. They wasted time and money to put up a piece of legislation that they knew wouldn't pass simply to have fodder for future campaigns.
Mike
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting.
None of what you mention is a demographic.
Are you saying there are no pro-life Liberals, for instance? A particular stance of an individual with regard to your examples can and do cut across all demographic classes.
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting.
None of what you mention is a demographic.
Are you saying there are no pro-life Liberals, for instance? A particular stance of an individual with regard to your examples can and do cut across all demographic classes.
You're too intelligent to not know that there are always exceptions. You can surely bait better than that. So why not answer from the macro or party level?
If you look at the governors & legislators on a state by state basis, please tell me which party leads the way in the examples I posted. You can start with NC, head over to Mississippi, make the trip to Texas, and keep on traveling this country on the GOP socially restrictive & voter suppression bus. I could list the rest of the states, but you probably are most aware of each of these & the draconian measures? The facts and records speak for themselves.
By the way, are you on board with vaginal probes, eliminating same day registration, cutting back the number of early voting days, paying a man more than a woman for the same job, etc.
The people have spoken - and in some cases, been ignored.
Florida Amendment 2 loses - even after having been voted FOR by 58% of the PEOPLE!
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting.
None of what you mention is a demographic.
Are you saying there are no pro-life Liberals, for instance? A particular stance of an individual with regard to your examples can and do cut across all demographic classes.
You're too intelligent to not know that there are always exceptions. You can surely bait better than that. So why not answer from the macro or party level?
If you look at the governors & legislators on a state by state basis, please tell me which party leads the way in the examples I posted. You can start with NC, head over to Mississippi, make the trip to Texas, and keep on traveling this country on the GOP socially restrictive & voter suppression bus. I could list the rest of the states, but you probably are most aware of each of these & the draconian measures? The facts and records speak for themselves.
By the way, are you on board with vaginal probes, eliminating same day registration, cutting back the number of early voting days, paying a man more than a woman for the same job, etc.
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So why not answer from the macro or party level?
- So you want now your questions answered within your specifically defined parameters? Get real man.
Your questions are the liberal’s agenda, not the The American Peoples. You call it “socially restrictive”. The People call it killing and forcing taxpayers to fund it. Republicans want safe and rare abortions. Liberals want babies killed anytime, anywhere and under any circumstances.
You call it “voter suppression bus”, an outright lie. The people who the hate groups say will be “suppressed” by having to show a valid ID to vote do have a valid ID. For the few who do not, Republican run states offer free IDs. They need ID to get their food stamps, gov’t housing, obamaphones, to buy liqueur and to even get into the building Holder works in.
By the way, are you on board with vaginal probes
-still on the abortion issue which is not a priority for women.
eliminating same day registration
-voter fraud city
cutting back the number of early voting days
- More voter fraud
paying a man more than a woman for the same job, etc.
- Show us your legislation. Oh what, you don’t have any?
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting. And just for you, I'll take voter Id off the table. There ar other voter Id suppression efforts that are effective.
I assume you would attribute all of these actions of dividing people I've just listed as acts of Democrats?
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Abortion and the fictitious voter suppression non-matter.
These are your issues? No wonder y’all lost so badly yesterday.
If you look at the exit polls that asked the people what was most important to them, abortion and the fictitious voter suppression never show up.
Topping the citizens list was the economy, jobs, energy, healthcare, foreign policy and the dysfunctional government.
The obama administration and reid’s senate have failed on every one of the issues most important to The American People and those people said so loud and clear yesterday.
If you are so concerned about vote problems, why do you not talk about the democrat’s voter fraud operations?
MartinD28-
I don't think Doug was talking about governors & legislators. By "people" he meant the citizenry. Dividing people strictly by demographic class (as Doug alluded to) is far different than the examples you furnished.
Individuals formulate opinions on various policies on their own, using their own minds. Thus, if anything, they are separating themselves.
The American People have spoken and said loud and clear that We The People reject Obama and his failed policies specifically and Reid and the Democrats policy of obstruction in general.
The People chose Republicans to lead and to get the work of the country done.
From the Senate, The House, The Governorships and State Legislatures the liberals were kicked to the curb and people that can actually get the job done were elected en mass.The message to the Democrats was clear: stop the politics of hate, race hustling, over regulation, government mismanagement, corruption, malfeasance and lying.
Obama himself, out campaigning at tax-payers expense to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, said while he was not on the ballot this election, his polities were. Every one of them.
The American citizens wholesale rejected his failed policies.Now the people can get their freedoms back, get a good job again and be proud of their country.
It is a good day to be an American again.
[Edited on 11/5/2014 by Muleman1994]
LOL, Yeah because the Republican did such a great job running our country for the 8 years under Bush getting us stuck in two unwinnable wars, turning a budget surplus into a deficit and handing Obama an economy that was on the brink of collapse. mission accomplished!
That being said I will repeat this again as you don't seem to understand it but Congressional turnover his historically cyclical so this is no big deal in the big scheme of things other than for bragging rights. The power is in the Presidency and until the Republican's take back the Whitehouse they might have won this battle but have not won the war. Enjoy it while you can because in two year Hillary and Bubba will be running the country again.
The American People have spoken and said loud and clear that We The People reject Obama and his failed policies specifically and Reid and the Democrats policy of obstruction in general.
The People chose Republicans to lead and to get the work of the country done.
From the Senate, The House, The Governorships and State Legislatures the liberals were kicked to the curb and people that can actually get the job done were elected en mass.The message to the Democrats was clear: stop the politics of hate, race hustling, over regulation, government mismanagement, corruption, malfeasance and lying.
Obama himself, out campaigning at tax-payers expense to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, said while he was not on the ballot this election, his polities were. Every one of them.
The American citizens wholesale rejected his failed policies.Now the people can get their freedoms back, get a good job again and be proud of their country.
It is a good day to be an American again.
[Edited on 11/5/2014 by Muleman1994]
LOL, Yeah because the Republican did such a great job running our country for the 8 years under Bush getting us stuck in two unwinnable wars, turning a budget surplus into a deficit and handing Obama an economy that was on the brink of collapse. mission accomplished!
That being said I will repeat this again as you don't seem to understand it but Congressional turnover his historically cyclical so this is no big deal in the big scheme of things other than for bragging rights. The power is in the Presidency and until the Republican's take back the Whitehouse they might have won this battle but have not won the war. Enjoy it while you can because in two year Hillary and Bubba will be running the country again.
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Your usual crap. Bash President Bush (and lie) and then try to minimize the massive wave of rejection of obama, his policies and reid and the democrats.
Living is a world of denial must be a miserable life.
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting. And just for you, I'll take voter Id off the table. There ar other voter Id suppression efforts that are effective.
I assume you would attribute all of these actions of dividing people I've just listed as acts of Democrats?
Let's see about that equal pay for equal work thing.
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Equal Pay Act of 1963 both outlaw gender differences in pay for doing the same job. Why do we need another law that says the same thing. The Dems in charge knew this and used the proposed legislation as a ploy to show how "concerned" they were about the "women being underpaid for doing the same jobs as men". Guess what, if it was happening, it was already illegal. So yes, that was an act of divisiveness.
On the Voter ID: In Georgia, if you want to vote, show your ID. If you don't have an ID you can fill out a Provisional Ballot and vote using that. Votes cast under a provisional ballot will only be counted after the voter has been verified, but you can still vote. So where's the problem? PS: At my polling station both poll workers told me not to say anything too loudly about the voter ID thing since everything so far had gone smoothly with everyone presenting ID. I would call it divisive that the Dems are against voter ID since they continuously claim it would hurt blacks and Hispanics, playing the race card.
Could you name the other ways of voter suppression you mentioned, and could you tell us about how Republicans are closing abortion clinics and limiting birth control?
Um, that "American People have spoken" thing...
There are 227,224,334 eligible voters in the United States. Yesterday, approximately 83,255,000 went to the polls. That's 36.64% of the overall total.
Now, making a high overview look at the rout that the GOP accomplished yesterday, it looks like, say, oh, 90% of the races were pretty close, some like 48.9% beating 48.6%.
But, hey, let's go ahead and be generous (and fair, IMO) and say that 60% of the votes cast yesterday went to the GOP.
Which, of course, shows that 22% of the voting populace that bothered to show up to vote have spoken.
Um, that "American People have spoken" thing...
There are 227,224,334 eligible voters in the United States. Yesterday, approximately 83,255,000 went to the polls. That's 36.64% of the overall total.
Now, making a high overview look at the rout that the GOP accomplished yesterday, it looks like, say, oh, 90% of the races were pretty close, some like 48.9% beating 48.6%.
But, hey, let's go ahead and be generous (and fair, IMO) and say that 60% of the votes cast yesterday went to the GOP.
Which, of course, shows that 22% of the voting populace that bothered to show up to vote have spoken.
One problem with your logic: not all states had elections this year. You'd have to figure the voters in only the states that had elections, and go from there. It would probably be better if you just counted the ones that actually showed up to vote vs. registered voters per state. I'd kind of like to see just how much voter apathy is out there.
Um, that "American People have spoken" thing...
There are 227,224,334 eligible voters in the United States. Yesterday, approximately 83,255,000 went to the polls. That's 36.64% of the overall total.
Now, making a high overview look at the rout that the GOP accomplished yesterday, it looks like, say, oh, 90% of the races were pretty close, some like 48.9% beating 48.6%.
But, hey, let's go ahead and be generous (and fair, IMO) and say that 60% of the votes cast yesterday went to the GOP.
Which, of course, shows that 22% of the voting populace that bothered to show up to vote have spoken.
One problem with your logic: not all states had elections this year. You'd have to figure the voters in only the states that had elections, and go from there. It would probably be better if you just counted the ones that actually showed up to vote vs. registered voters per state. I'd kind of like to see just how much voter apathy is out there.
All 435 seats in the House were up for grabs yesterday. The numbers are here: http://www.electproject.org/2014g
The preferred turnout rates are those calculated with the voting-eligible population as the denominator. The voting-eligible population (VEP) represents an estimate of persons eligible to vote regardless of voter registration status in an election and is constructed by modifying the voting-age population (VAP), by components reported in the right-most columns (scroll right in the spreadsheet).
The preferred turnout rate numerator is the Total Ballots Counted, which is all ballots election officials counted. Not all jurisdictions report total ballots counted, so a second-best numerator is Highest Office, which in a presidential election year is the total votes for all presidential candidates including write-ins (where reported), and in a non-presidential election may be the vote for the highest turnout statewide office (typically governor) or if no statewide election was held, the sum of the congressional elections. Total ballots counted includes blank and otherwise invalid votes for the highest office. Some states may report a statistic they call total ballots cast, but is actually vote for highest office.
There is data for all 50 states, and you aren't gonna spoil my fun.
[Edited on 11/5/2014 by Bhawk]
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
Really? Tell us Doug, who leads the way on closing abortion centers, limiting birth control, voting against equal pay for women, and developing ways to keep people from voting. And just for you, I'll take voter Id off the table. There ar other voter Id suppression efforts that are effective.
I assume you would attribute all of these actions of dividing people I've just listed as acts of Democrats?
Let's see about that equal pay for equal work thing.
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Equal Pay Act of 1963 both outlaw gender differences in pay for doing the same job. Why do we need another law that says the same thing. The Dems in charge knew this and used the proposed legislation as a ploy to show how "concerned" they were about the "women being underpaid for doing the same jobs as men". Guess what, if it was happening, it was already illegal. So yes, that was an act of divisiveness.On the Voter ID: In Georgia, if you want to vote, show your ID. If you don't have an ID you can fill out a Provisional Ballot and vote using that. Votes cast under a provisional ballot will only be counted after the voter has been verified, but you can still vote. So where's the problem? PS: At my polling station both poll workers told me not to say anything too loudly about the voter ID thing since everything so far had gone smoothly with everyone presenting ID. I would call it divisive that the Dems are against voter ID since they continuously claim it would hurt blacks and Hispanics, playing the race card.
Could you name the other ways of voter suppression you mentioned, and could you tell us about how Republicans are closing abortion clinics and limiting birth control?
Your question is good, and usually I don't do a lot of pasting links. However there is far too much detail needed for me to post, & it would take more time than I can allocate. So I have provided these links that should answer your questions.
On equal pay, here's a couple good articles. The first is on GOP votes for the Lilly Ledbetter Act & the second on Paycheck Fairness Act. There is plenty more out there.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/10/how-many-republicans-voted-lilly-ledbetter-act
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/09/15/3567740/republicans-paycheck-fairness-act/
On voter suppression excluding voter Id - Here's an excellent article with a detail list that will answer your question using North Carolina as an example. You can find plenty more on other states.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/175441/north-carolina-passes-countrys-worst-voter-suppression-law
On closing abortion centers - Here's a couple good articles on the GOP and abortion centers then followed by examples in 3 states. Note that in the 3 states examples that these are governed by the GOP.
http://www.politicususa.com/proof-war-women-2
North Dakota:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abortions-800-miles-north-dakotas-clinic-close/story?id=18823150
Virginia:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/virginia-abortion-clinic_n_3599262.html
Texas
my biggest concern for the next two years is that the GOP will try to reverse all the gains made in the economy made in the last 5 years. i believe there reasoning will be the same as it has been, to make the Dem's look bad and use it to try and capture the Presidency. i'm sorry, this is what i believe has been happening and is the reason growth has been slower than it should have been. if this isn't their goal then the economy should begin to really take off because of GOP policies and bills they will now pass.
i guess we'll wait and see.
my biggest concern for the next two years is that the GOP will try to reverse all the gains made in the economy made in the last 5 years. i believe there reasoning will be the same as it has been, to make the Dem's look bad and use it to try and capture the Presidency. i'm sorry, this is what i believe has been happening and is the reason growth has been slower than it should have been. if this isn't their goal then the economy should begin to really take off because of GOP policies and bills they will now pass.
i guess we'll wait and see.
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The economic recovery needed is up to obama. The GOP will, as they have for the last four years, pass many bills to get the economy really moving but obama will simply veto them.
He didn't have to veto anything for the last four years because Reid and the democrats in the senate refused to allow any GOP house bill to even come up for a vote and making sure nothing went to obama's desk.
Now obama will have use the veto.
we'll just have to agree to disagree mule.
My hope is the end of the politics of dividing people by race, sex and class which is what the Demcrats have done in spades for the last 6 years. It clearly backfired this time.
And so sayith the mighty New Yorker who sits in his bastion of liberalism. How many conservatives were voted in, in your neck of the woods?
http://www.wgal.com/politics/no-more-white-southern-democrats-in-congress/29562158
A little talked about loss is significant for the south, the last white democrat was voted out last night. One of the major factors is the re-drawing of districts by republicans to make sure that another white house democrat will not be elected in the deep south in my life time.
So in the end Doug I hope you work hard in the years to come to oust all the white Democrats in your area and replace all of them with conservatives. Vote out your governor and your liberal representatives then they to can re-draw their districts to make sure that no white democrats are ever elected in your lifetime.
Frankly due to this I will more than likely work as hard as I can to turn this country over to 100% conservative rule. I will work very hard to keep all democrats at home for future elections. I want this country to live under Republican domination for decades to come and
pray that they roll back every inroads made in regards to women's rights, worker's rights, social security, public schools, etc. All tax money should go to fund middle eastern conflicts and defense contracts, the only handouts should be for the sainted corporations, Wall Street and banks.
The people in this country have spoken, if they want a conservative country then I say all Democrats should give it to them and the first place we should start is New York City. To test your love for the republicans you should pick a small conservative southern town and pack up the family move on down here, truly you would love it. You would fit right in, well maybe....
I hope that every Democrat retires and no one runs in their place, I hope the Republicans are able to pass every bill they wise with no opposition, I hope that when the next war comes around every Republican will send their children to fight it (that will probably never happen) but one can hope.
The people that have spoken need to live in the Utopia that they yearn for, not for a few years but for decades, they deserve it.
Maybe they can be like Georgia and re-elect a Governor who presides and will continue to preside over the worst employment numbers in the country. All with a majority conservative house and senate, the whole country including New York should have them some of that good old conservative apple pie.
[Edited on 11/6/2014 by PattyG]
(Quote)On equal pay, here's a couple good articles. The first is on GOP votes for the Lilly Ledbetter Act & the second on Paycheck Fairness Act. There is plenty more out there.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/10/how-many-republicans-voted-lilly-ledbetter-act
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/09/15/3567740/republicans-paycheck-fairness-act/
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I'll respond on these as I get a chance to go over them.
My first question is: Why did we need the Lilly Ledbetter Act or the Paycheck Fairness Act?
Both were basically the same thing, and were the same thing as laws already on the books.
Those two made as much sense to me as pushing legislation to make murder illegal, when it already is.
Title VII and the Equal Pay Act already make paying females less for doing the same job as males illegal. Why try to push another law through that does the same thing except to garner "brownie points"?
(Quote)On equal pay, here's a couple good articles. The first is on GOP votes for the Lilly Ledbetter Act & the second on Paycheck Fairness Act. There is plenty more out there.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/10/how-many-republicans-voted-lilly-ledbetter-act
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/09/15/3567740/republicans-paycheck-fairness-act/
(Quote)I'll respond on these as I get a chance to go over them.
My first question is: Why did we need the Lilly Ledbetter Act or the Paycheck Fairness Act?
Both were basically the same thing, and were the same thing as laws already on the books.
Those two made as much sense to me as pushing legislation to make murder illegal, when it already is.
Title VII and the Equal Pay Act already make paying females less for doing the same job as males illegal. Why try to push another law through that does the same thing except to garner "brownie points"?
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You may find that the whole issue was part of obama's "War on Women" scam, a typical political game. Create a false "War on" and then accuse the GOP of it.
Didn't work yesterday. Republican women did very well and democrat women did not.
(Quote)On equal pay, here's a couple good articles. The first is on GOP votes for the Lilly Ledbetter Act & the second on Paycheck Fairness Act. There is plenty more out there.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/10/how-many-republicans-voted-lilly-ledbetter-act
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/09/15/3567740/republicans-paycheck-fairness-act/
(Quote)I'll respond on these as I get a chance to go over them.
My first question is: Why did we need the Lilly Ledbetter Act or the Paycheck Fairness Act?
Both were basically the same thing, and were the same thing as laws already on the books.
Those two made as much sense to me as pushing legislation to make murder illegal, when it already is.
Title VII and the Equal Pay Act already make paying females less for doing the same job as males illegal. Why try to push another law through that does the same thing except to garner "brownie points"?_____________________________
You may find that the whole issue was part of obama's "War on Women" scam, a typical political game. Create a false "War on" and then accuse the GOP of it.
Didn't work yesterday. Republican women did very well and democrat women did not.
Wott are you, the bastard love child of rush limbaugh and sean hannity???
Pretty good article from before the election for all the republicans that are "gloating" right now......
Senate control no cure for Republican ills in 2016
By Glen Bolger and Neil Newhouse
Whatever the precise size of the incoming wave — and we'll leave it to forecasters and surfers to fight over that — most models are predicting a Republican takeover of the Senate, as well as gains in the House, following Tuesday's midterm vote.
Such a victory gives the Republican Party a significant opportunity to recast itself in the eyes of voters. But let's be clear: Winning on Tuesday will not necessarily portend success in 2016. After all, big GOP wins in 1994 and 2010 did not lead to a President Dole or a President Romney in the subsequent elections. In fact, the Republican Party hasn't managed to string together three successful elections since the 2000-2002-2004 political cycles.
So what does a GOP win in 2014 mean for the coming presidential contest? Let's start with what it doesn't mean:
It doesn't mean we've solved the GOP math problem.
Democrats like to accuse Republicans of being bad at science, but in fact we're really bad at math. Winning in a non-presidential-turnout year, when older and white voters make up a larger percentage of the electorate, should convince no one that we've fixed our basic shortfalls with key electoral groups, including minorities and younger voters.
Assuming that the Democrats replicate their 2012 electoral success with minority voters two years from now, and assuming that Hispanics grow as a percentage of the overall electorate, which they will, we calculate that Democrats will already have almost half (24 percent) of the votes they need to win a majority of Americans in 2016. To win 50.1 percent of the popular vote, we estimate, Republicans will need nearly 64 percent of the white vote — which would be a record for a non-incumbent Republican presidential candidate. Remember, Mitt Romney and John McCain won 59 percent and 55 percent of the white vote, respectively; and even in victory, George W. Bush took only 58 percent of the white vote in 2004. With the exception of candidates like Govs. Susana Martinez of New Mexico and Brian Sandoval of Nevada, Republicans have hardly focused on courting minority votes in 2014.
Further, there is little evidence that GOP prospects are improving with younger voters, especially younger women. We can no longer depend on voters 45 and older to carry Republican candidates to victory (Romney won voters 40 and older but still lost the election).
It doesn't mean we've solved the GOP map problem.
Republicans can win in red states. Tuesday should bear that out pretty well. But the challenge for the GOP long-term is winning in blue or purple states. Our success in states like Iowa, Colorado and New Hampshire on Tuesday may indicate that we're getting back on track. That's pretty important, because in 2016 we face the "Big Blue Wall" — the 18 states (plus Washington, D.C.) that have gone for the Democratic presidential candidate six elections in a row. They add up to 242 electoral votes, leaving the Democrats needing just 28 of the 183 electoral votes in the 18 tossup states. Republicans couldn't put any Senate races in those Blue Wall states in play. Thus the GOP "strategy" is essentially to be perfect in purple states — not a game plan with a high probability of success.
It doesn't mean we've solved the GOP image problem.
Even though President Barack Obama is significantly less popular than he was two years ago, the GOP is not well-positioned to capitalize because our party's image has also gotten worse since 2012. In the most recent NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll, half of respondents had a negative image of the Republican Party — only the fourth time that has occurred in the past six years. (Reminder to Tuesday's winners: Threatening impeachment or shutting down the federal government doesn't endear you to Middle America.)
Our focus groups and open-ended questions in polls find that voters unhappy with the GOP think the party is living in the past. The Democrats have also had success in hammering the Republican Party as favoring the wealthy at the expense of the middle class. That is a battle we will have to fight again in 2016.
While the Democrats aren't in terrific shape on image either (37 percent positive, 43 percent negative in the NBC poll), the gap between the two parties has widened since 2012. The Republicans are losing ground.
After the tremendous success the Obama campaign had in 2012 in mobilizing voters, the Democrats' efforts to replicate that this year should surprise no one. And yet we've been asked many times by skeptical Republican candidates and operatives if we believe that the Democrats could replicate their ground game in 2016 for a candidate not named Obama. Really? Does anyone actually want to take a chance on that? Just as digital outreach and advanced analytics will be integral parts of all campaigns for years to come, so will the ground game — and we're still playing catch-up.
While Republicans made major strides this year in improving the kind of person-to-person contact with voters — door to door, on social media or through other means — that the Democrats dominated in 2012, Republicans continue to be at a manpower and technological disadvantage.
So that's the bad news. But here is what a GOP victory on Tuesday does mean:
It means we get to pass legislation.
The last time the country split control of the executive and legislative branches between the parties was during the 110th Congress in 2007-08. While President Bush vetoed a number of bills passed by the Democratic Congress, he also signed major legislation. Given that Harry Reid's Senate is now where bills go to die, there is no question that Obama will spend the next two years making a lot more "sign or veto" decisions before playing his next 18 holes.
In the next session, new Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker John Boehner should seek to send Obama a blend of bills — some he can sign and others he can veto to keep his coalition happy. For those upset at the prospect of Republicans passing intentional veto bait for political gain, we're sorry to disillusion you, but it has happened before.
Being able to campaign in 2016 with a combination of "Here's how we moved the ball forward" and "Here are the great bills Obama vetoed" will improve Republicans' standing. That strategy will not necessarily help GOP legislators withstand the more difficult election terrain resulting from a larger, younger and more diverse electorate, but it will help the Republican presidential nominee point to policies that he or she would shepherd into law.
It means we get to become the party of new ideas and responsible leadership.
Republican governors have incubated new policy ideas that have transformed their states into business-friendly environments that will create jobs. More broadly, they have cut taxes and debt, improved the quality of education by providing more choices, and streamlined the delivery of state services.
We have got to be able to point to how those policies and ideas help America's middle class. If we can undercut the Democrats' message that the GOP is only for the rich, there won't be much left for them to offer in 2016.
"Don't let anybody tell you that it's corporations and businesses that create jobs," Hillary Clinton declared recently. While Clinton was probably trying to out-Warren Elizabeth Warren, the darling of the rich, white liberal elite, the attack reflects just how out of touch the left wing of the Democratic Party is on economic issues. If the GOP stays focused on bread-and-butter issues of the economy, spending and foreign policy (it's back!), we will be significantly better off than if we spend our time chasing conspiracy theories down rabbit holes.
Republican leadership in Congress will allow the GOP to develop and market new ideas that our 2016 presidential nominee — likely to be coming off a tough primary battle — could highlight, so the Democrats can no longer simply tag us as "the party of no." Victory on Tuesday should make no one forget that the Republican Party still needs to strengthen the trust of voters in its ability to tackle the problems they face.
It is crucial that Americans have confidence in our ability to provide responsible leadership. That leadership is why governors like Ohio's John Kasich and Michigan's Rick Snyder seem headed toward re-election in battleground states.
And the new GOP-led Congress will need to show it too.
Washington Post
Glen Bolger and Neil Newhouse are partners in the Republican political and public affairs research firm Public Opinion Strategies.
my biggest concern for the next two years is that the GOP will try to reverse all the gains made in the economy made in the last 5 years. i believe there reasoning will be the same as it has been, to make the Dem's look bad and use it to try and capture the Presidency. i'm sorry, this is what i believe has been happening and is the reason growth has been slower than it should have been. if this isn't their goal then the economy should begin to really take off because of GOP policies and bills they will now pass.
i guess we'll wait and see.
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The economic recovery needed is up to obama. The GOP will, as they have for the last four years, pass many bills to get the economy really moving but obama will simply veto them.
He didn't have to veto anything for the last four years because Reid and the democrats in the senate refused to allow any GOP house bill to even come up for a vote and making sure nothing went to obama's desk.Now obama will have use the veto.
So Obama uses the veto. Hmmmm. I guess the "victory" that you are gloating about is a little hollow. Oh well, you can always hope that in 2016 a Republican gets the White House. Nah. Not likely.
my biggest concern for the next two years is that the GOP will try to reverse all the gains made in the economy made in the last 5 years. i believe there reasoning will be the same as it has been, to make the Dem's look bad and use it to try and capture the Presidency. i'm sorry, this is what i believe has been happening and is the reason growth has been slower than it should have been. if this isn't their goal then the economy should begin to really take off because of GOP policies and bills they will now pass.
i guess we'll wait and see.
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The economic recovery needed is up to obama. The GOP will, as they have for the last four years, pass many bills to get the economy really moving but obama will simply veto them.
He didn't have to veto anything for the last four years because Reid and the democrats in the senate refused to allow any GOP house bill to even come up for a vote and making sure nothing went to obama's desk.Now obama will have use the veto.
So Obama uses the veto. Hmmmm. I guess the "victory" that you are gloating about is a little hollow. Oh well, you can always hope that in 2016 a Republican gets the White House. Nah. Not likely.
There is some, albeit a sliver of common ground to work on. I think it's possible to get some infrastructure work done, for instance. You want to see Obama veto that?
Are you sure you're not getting a little ahead of yourself, banking on a Democrat win in 2016? There's no telling what could happen between now and that election.
