I'm confused... You mean gina is a dood? All this time and I, well I...
You wanted to ask her what she was wearing?
I preferred to leave it to my imagination.
It represents a flag for which people fought to keep a way of life that included free human labor....
Now you can run off about all sorts of other thing it may represent but it represents a way of life that includes slavery...
Free labor? They housed and fed those who worked on the land. I will grant you that the housing accomodations were not up to the level they could have been, and there were probably many task masters who beat ornery workers, but you have to remember back in those times, they did not believe the slaves had the intellect to learn, take care of themselves or do anything else. That was the belief about the functionality and capability of those people. Were they wrong? Look at some of the modern day welfare people and tell me what use they are or how they contribute to anything.
This post made me fill ill and dirty. Think I'll go throw up and take a shower. It is sad that anyone in today's world would try to justify slavery.
I'm just saying try to understand how it was at that time, with the beliefs that the people held. They had plantations they needed people to work on them, they provided a roof over their heads, they had clothes, they were fed. They did not live the same lifestyle as those who owned the plantations, but they lived, they had children, that was how their lives were. You can focus on 'it was wrong people were treated that way' but look at the circumstances. The people were not educated, they had no wealth, they owned nothing, so those with power and money used them to their advantage.
We are slaves now to corporations. You have a nicer place to live and a higher standard of living, but you don't get to fly on a lear jet, you don't get to have anything you want with price being no object, you have to live within the constraints of what has been set up for you. You work for a company, you pay taxes and those taxes support the world's elite. The Rothschilds decided people would work this way if they had a better standard of living than the slaves of yesteryear, so that is why if you work hard, you can get an SUV, and a mortgage, and a wife to provide sex to you so you'll keep working to support the corporations and power elite. They will even give you a vacation twice a year, perks for the modern day slaves.
It represents a flag for which people fought to keep a way of life that included free human labor....
Now you can run off about all sorts of other thing it may represent but it represents a way of life that includes slavery...
Free labor? They housed and fed those who worked on the land. I will grant you that the housing accomodations were not up to the level they could have been, and there were probably many task masters who beat ornery workers, but you have to remember back in those times, they did not believe the slaves had the intellect to learn, take care of themselves or do anything else. That was the belief about the functionality and capability of those people. Were they wrong? Look at some of the modern day welfare people and tell me what use they are or how they contribute to anything.
This post made me fill ill and dirty. Think I'll go throw up and take a shower. It is sad that anyone in today's world would try to justify slavery.
Consider the source. That doesn't dismiss her apparent callousness toward her fellow humans. But I believe we have seen that she revels in the suffering of others. She is just a very sick individual.
Callousness towards fellow humans? No, I don't think people should be chained up, it happened then, it happens today. Look at what we did in Gitmo to fellow human beings, and they weren't even found guilty of anything. They were bought for $500 each and sent off to be tortured. You object to slaves being in chains, being beaten and subjected to hard labor, but nobody raises a voice about torture to Afghans. They are your fellow humans too, but you don't care about them. Oh well the govt. says they are bad so they can be abused any way the govt. likes to.
If you want human rights for people, you would recognize ALL people as having the same rights, but few people on this board do that.
By the way another poster accused me of being a Nazi, my grandparents escaped Nazi Germany coming here. One of my Grandfather's was a cop in Brooklyn, the other was a miner in coal country, so go eff yourself. (and as to rest of the allegations those are equally untrue.
I think it is behavior and beliefs not race that determines a person's worth.
IT'S CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY THAT MATTER, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE BASED ON PEOPLE'S BELIEFS.
Overall I have found so much hatred, hostility from Latinas and blacks, just because of my color I don't try to find equality anymore. I don't even feel like I should try to be a peacemaker among all peoples anymore. I'm done with it. I'm going to let them all fight amongst each other, while I surround myself with people who have the values I have. I wasn't there putting anybody in chains so don't blame slavery on me, or assume I grew up having everything minorities didn't.
I am sick of minorities wanting to blame me for their problems.
I don't want to hear how bad the slaves had it and how we should all feel guilty over it. My ancestors were white and worked hard to achieve the things they did. Southerners have white pride and I will not apologize for that or accept subservience or second class citizenry. Why should we be ashamed to be white?
With regard to slavery, I didn't do it, my ancestors did not do it to them either. Am I off the hook for slavery?
[Edited on 6/29/2015 by gina]
[Edited on 6/30/2015 by gina]
It represents a flag for which people fought to keep a way of life that included free human labor....
Now you can run off about all sorts of other thing it may represent but it represents a way of life that includes slavery...
Free labor? They housed and fed those who worked on the land. I will grant you that the housing accomodations were not up to the level they could have been, and there were probably many task masters who beat ornery workers, but you have to remember back in those times, they did not believe the slaves had the intellect to learn, take care of themselves or do anything else. That was the belief about the functionality and capability of those people. Were they wrong? Look at some of the modern day welfare people and tell me what use they are or how they contribute to anything.
what happened to you? That's an awful post. geeze gina, really?
Did they have shelter? Did they have food? Did they have work? They became slaves because they were poor, uneducated. What is incorrect in these statements?
It represents a flag for which people fought to keep a way of life that included free human labor....
Now you can run off about all sorts of other thing it may represent but it represents a way of life that includes slavery...
Free labor? They housed and fed those who worked on the land. I will grant you that the housing accomodations were not up to the level they could have been, and there were probably many task masters who beat ornery workers, but you have to remember back in those times, they did not believe the slaves had the intellect to learn, take care of themselves or do anything else. That was the belief about the functionality and capability of those people. Were they wrong? Look at some of the modern day welfare people and tell me what use they are or how they contribute to anything.
what happened to you? That's an awful post. geeze gina, really?
Did they have shelter? Did they have food? Did they have work? They became slaves because they were poor, uneducated. What is incorrect in these statements?
You can't be serious....They became salves because they were kidnapped from their home country brought here sold like animals and treated as such...did they give food to an ox or horse....shelter????yes so they were treated pretty much like oxen or horses
Uneducated because they weren't allowed to be educated...
What is incorrect about the statements is they come from a position of pure ignorance....That's whats wrong with them
It represents a flag for which people fought to keep a way of life that included free human labor....
Now you can run off about all sorts of other thing it may represent but it represents a way of life that includes slavery...
Free labor? They housed and fed those who worked on the land. I will grant you that the housing accomodations were not up to the level they could have been, and there were probably many task masters who beat ornery workers, but you have to remember back in those times, they did not believe the slaves had the intellect to learn, take care of themselves or do anything else. That was the belief about the functionality and capability of those people. Were they wrong? Look at some of the modern day welfare people and tell me what use they are or how they contribute to anything.
This post made me fill ill and dirty. Think I'll go throw up and take a shower. It is sad that anyone in today's world would try to justify slavery.
Consider the source. That doesn't dismiss her apparent callousness toward her fellow humans. But I believe we have seen that she revels in the suffering of others. She is just a very sick individual.
Callousness towards fellow humans? No, I don't think people should be chained up, it happened then, it happens today. Look at what we did in Gitmo to fellow human beings, and they weren't even found guilty of anything. They were bought for $500 each and sent off to be tortured. You object to slaves being in chains, being beaten and subjected to hard labor, but nobody raises a voice about torture to Afghans. They are your fellow humans too, but you don't care about them. Oh well the govt. says they are bad so they can be abused any way the govt. likes to.
If you want human rights for people, you would recognize ALL people as having the same rights, but few people on this board do that.
By the way another poster accused me of being a Nazi, my grandparents escaped Nazi Germany coming here. One of my Grandfather's was a cop in Brooklyn, the other was a miner in coal country, so go eff yourself. (and as to rest of the allegations those are equally untrue.
I think it is behavior and beliefs not race that determines a person's worth.
IT'S CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY THAT MATTER, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE BASED ON PEOPLE'S BELIEFS.Overall I have found so much hatred, hostility from Latinas and blacks, just because of my color I don't try to find equality anymore. I don't even feel like I should try to be a peacemaker among all peoples anymore. I'm done with it. I'm going to let them all fight amongst each other, while I surround myself with people who have the values I have. I wasn't there putting anybody in chains so don't blame slavery on me, or assume I grew up having everything minorities didn't.
I am sick of minorities wanting to blame me for their problems.
I don't want to hear how bad the slaves had it and how we should all feel guilty over it. My ancestors were white and worked hard to achieve the things they did. Southerners have white pride and I will not apologize for that or accept subservience or second class citizenry. Why should we be ashamed to be white?
With regard to slavery, I didn't do it, my ancestors did not do it to them either. Am I off the hook for slavery?
[Edited on 6/29/2015 by gina]
[Edited on 6/30/2015 by gina]
You are an idiot. Based on your criteria, the prisoners in Gitmo have housing, food and the ability to practice their religion. So stop whining about them. As for the rest of your rant, your words, you own them.
If you want to live among people with the same values as you, you should move to the Middle East. See how that works out for you.
This is hilarious. The language is definitely NSFW.
It represents a flag for which people fought to keep a way of life that included free human labor....
Now you can run off about all sorts of other thing it may represent but it represents a way of life that includes slavery...
Free labor? They housed and fed those who worked on the land. I will grant you that the housing accomodations were not up to the level they could have been, and there were probably many task masters who beat ornery workers, but you have to remember back in those times, they did not believe the slaves had the intellect to learn, take care of themselves or do anything else. That was the belief about the functionality and capability of those people. Were they wrong? Look at some of the modern day welfare people and tell me what use they are or how they contribute to anything.
This post made me fill ill and dirty. Think I'll go throw up and take a shower. It is sad that anyone in today's world would try to justify slavery.
Consider the source. That doesn't dismiss her apparent callousness toward her fellow humans. But I believe we have seen that she revels in the suffering of others. She is just a very sick individual.
Callousness towards fellow humans? No, I don't think people should be chained up, it happened then, it happens today. Look at what we did in Gitmo to fellow human beings, and they weren't even found guilty of anything. They were bought for $500 each and sent off to be tortured. You object to slaves being in chains, being beaten and subjected to hard labor, but nobody raises a voice about torture to Afghans. They are your fellow humans too, but you don't care about them. Oh well the govt. says they are bad so they can be abused any way the govt. likes to.
If you want human rights for people, you would recognize ALL people as having the same rights, but few people on this board do that.
By the way another poster accused me of being a Nazi, my grandparents escaped Nazi Germany coming here. One of my Grandfather's was a cop in Brooklyn, the other was a miner in coal country, so go eff yourself. (and as to rest of the allegations those are equally untrue.
I think it is behavior and beliefs not race that determines a person's worth.
IT'S CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY THAT MATTER, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE BASED ON PEOPLE'S BELIEFS.Overall I have found so much hatred, hostility from Latinas and blacks, just because of my color I don't try to find equality anymore. I don't even feel like I should try to be a peacemaker among all peoples anymore. I'm done with it. I'm going to let them all fight amongst each other, while I surround myself with people who have the values I have. I wasn't there putting anybody in chains so don't blame slavery on me, or assume I grew up having everything minorities didn't.
I am sick of minorities wanting to blame me for their problems.
I don't want to hear how bad the slaves had it and how we should all feel guilty over it. My ancestors were white and worked hard to achieve the things they did. Southerners have white pride and I will not apologize for that or accept subservience or second class citizenry. Why should we be ashamed to be white?
With regard to slavery, I didn't do it, my ancestors did not do it to them either. Am I off the hook for slavery?
You are an idiot. Based on your criteria, the prisoners in Gitmo have housing, food and the ability to practice their religion. So stop whining about them. As for the rest of your rant, your words, you own them.
If you want to live among people with the same values as you, you should move to the Middle East. See how that works out for you.
Nobody is saying you need to be ashamed of being white. Nobody is saying Germans need to be ashamed of things that happened during previous generations. But why can't people admit it when something bad happened in the past that involves their country. Slavery was wrong, period. Jaycee Dugard was kidnaped and kept in a shed in her kidnappers backyard for 18 years. She was fed, clothed and had shelter over her head. She didn't even have to endure hard labor. So, by your reasoning what happened to Jaycee Dugard must have been ok too. She didn't even have to do hard work in the fields. The only difference is that she was white and kidnaped and only transported less than 200 miles away instead of being black and transported from Africa. Kidnaping is wrong. Slavery was wrong. There is no justification for it, and anyone who justifies it is a moron.
Southerners have white pride and I will not apologize for that or accept subservience or second class citizenry. Why should we be ashamed to be white?
White pride? Good luck with that supremacy thing. The real Supremes backed Diana Ross and they were black.
So, I gotta know. Is gina a dood or not?
It represents a flag for which people fought to keep a way of life that included free human labor....
Now you can run off about all sorts of other thing it may represent but it represents a way of life that includes slavery...
Free labor? They housed and fed those who worked on the land. I will grant you that the housing accomodations were not up to the level they could have been, and there were probably many task masters who beat ornery workers, but you have to remember back in those times, they did not believe the slaves had the intellect to learn, take care of themselves or do anything else. That was the belief about the functionality and capability of those people. Were they wrong? Look at some of the modern day welfare people and tell me what use they are or how they contribute to anything.
This post made me fill ill and dirty. Think I'll go throw up and take a shower. It is sad that anyone in today's world would try to justify slavery.
Consider the source. That doesn't dismiss her apparent callousness toward her fellow humans. But I believe we have seen that she revels in the suffering of others. She is just a very sick individual.
Callousness towards fellow humans? No, I don't think people should be chained up, it happened then, it happens today. Look at what we did in Gitmo to fellow human beings, and they weren't even found guilty of anything. They were bought for $500 each and sent off to be tortured. You object to slaves being in chains, being beaten and subjected to hard labor, but nobody raises a voice about torture to Afghans. They are your fellow humans too, but you don't care about them. Oh well the govt. says they are bad so they can be abused any way the govt. likes to.
If you want human rights for people, you would recognize ALL people as having the same rights, but few people on this board do that.
By the way another poster accused me of being a Nazi, my grandparents escaped Nazi Germany coming here. One of my Grandfather's was a cop in Brooklyn, the other was a miner in coal country, so go eff yourself. (and as to rest of the allegations those are equally untrue.
I think it is behavior and beliefs not race that determines a person's worth.
IT'S CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY THAT MATTER, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE BASED ON PEOPLE'S BELIEFS.Overall I have found so much hatred, hostility from Latinas and blacks, just because of my color I don't try to find equality anymore. I don't even feel like I should try to be a peacemaker among all peoples anymore. I'm done with it. I'm going to let them all fight amongst each other, while I surround myself with people who have the values I have. I wasn't there putting anybody in chains so don't blame slavery on me, or assume I grew up having everything minorities didn't.
I am sick of minorities wanting to blame me for their problems.
I don't want to hear how bad the slaves had it and how we should all feel guilty over it. My ancestors were white and worked hard to achieve the things they did. Southerners have white pride and I will not apologize for that or accept subservience or second class citizenry. Why should we be ashamed to be white?
With regard to slavery, I didn't do it, my ancestors did not do it to them either. Am I off the hook for slavery?
[Edited on 6/29/2015 by gina]
[Edited on 6/30/2015 by gina]
sure, you're "off the hook" for slavery. My comment to you (and I don't mean to beat this issue to death) was based on your "what use are welfare people".
Nobody is saying you need to be ashamed of being white. Nobody is saying Germans need to be ashamed of things that happened during previous generations.
Ok, not ashamed of being white, maybe, but folks need to feel shame for what people have done to others in the name of their flag or religion, take it to heart and try to prevent it happening again. You honestly don't feel one twinge of guilt and remorse at the wholesale genocide of the Native American, for example? As you shop in a supermarket built on their land? For that matter, I feel ashamed at what happened at Auschwitz and I don't have a drop of German. As a member of the human race I feel personally responsible when anyone goes off and does horrible things to others.
Nobody is saying you need to be ashamed of being white. Nobody is saying Germans need to be ashamed of things that happened during previous generations.
Ok, not ashamed of being white, maybe, but folks need to feel shame for what people have done to others in the name of their flag or religion, take it to heart and try to prevent it happening again. You honestly don't feel one twinge of guilt and remorse at the wholesale genocide of the Native American, for example? As you shop in a supermarket built on their land? For that matter, I feel ashamed at what happened at Auschwitz and I don't have a drop of German. As a member of the human race I feel personally responsible when anyone goes off and does horrible things to others.
Nope. I don't feel personally ashamed at all. Now, I feel my country, which I am very proud of, has done many shameful things in the past. I think we need to do everything in our power to learn from and admit to our past mistakes so we don't repeat them. There is nothing wrong with owning your past. Wrong is wrong, and trying to justify a wrong a sign of weakness IMO.
Now, I feel my country, which I am very proud of, has done many shameful things in the past.
But you are at least not proud of the shameful things your country has done, right?
Now, I feel my country, which I am very proud of, has done many shameful things in the past.
But you are at least not proud of the shameful things your country has done, right?
I thought I'd made that pretty clear.
Not clear at all. You made it sound as if you didn't feel one way or the other about it, that it didn't involve you at all. My country right or wrong. Saying you are not proud of something is saying you aren't good with it. Ok, so no shame maybe, but certainly it causes a negative emotional reaction of some kind, which does involve you and cause you to not support a repeat of the past. Which is plenty good enough. Doesn't matter to call it shame or whatever, same result.
Now, I feel my country, which I am very proud of, has done many shameful things in the past.
But you are at least not proud of the shameful things your country has done, right?
I thought I'd made that pretty clear.
I think you did, and I agree with you.
Never mind. Must be nice to feel so distanced from it all. Never a twinge of conscience over anything, like when we fill the gas tank with arab blood, or crap on the environment. It's all just the world and nothing to do with me personally. Sorry to rain on your happy parade. This is clearly the common view here, so I'll leave off. Always mystified me how folks can compartmentalize like that. I envy you your peace of mind.
Never mind. Must be nice to feel so distanced from it all. Never a twinge of conscience over anything, like when we fill the gas tank with arab blood, or crap on the environment. It's all just the world and nothing to do with me personally. Sorry to rain on your happy parade. This is clearly the common view here, so I'll leave off. Always mystified me how folks can compartmentalize like that. I envy you your peace of mind.
Life is too short to feel shame and guilt for things that happened long before I was walking this earth, or for the actions of others. I do my part to live a responsible life, give some of my time and treasure to causes that I feel are important and make the world a better place, and make a positive contribution to the community and country and world in which I live. I've made mistakes and have plenty of baggage of my own to carry without feeling responsible for all the misdeeds of mankind that have happened or will happen.
Never mind. Must be nice to feel so distanced from it all. Never a twinge of conscience over anything, like when we fill the gas tank with arab blood, or crap on the environment. It's all just the world and nothing to do with me personally. Sorry to rain on your happy parade. This is clearly the common view here, so I'll leave off. Always mystified me how folks can compartmentalize like that. I envy you your peace of mind.
Life is too short to feel shame and guilt for things that happened long before I was walking this earth, or for the actions of others. I do my part to live a responsible life, give some of my time and treasure to causes that I feel are important and make the world a better place, and make a positive contribution to the community and country and world in which I live. I've made mistakes and have plenty of baggage of my own to carry without feeling responsible for all the misdeeds of mankind that have happened or will happen.
You know, my belief is that the above by Gondi describes the vast majority of people on this board, even if we have different ideas about how to go about making the world a better place and making a positive contribution to our community and our country. I think we would do well to remember that about each other.
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Never mind. Must be nice to feel so distanced from it all. Never a twinge of conscience over anything, like when we fill the gas tank with arab blood, or crap on the environment. It's all just the world and nothing to do with me personally. Sorry to rain on your happy parade. This is clearly the common view here, so I'll leave off. Always mystified me how folks can compartmentalize like that. I envy you your peace of mind.Life is too short to feel shame and guilt for things that happened long before I was walking this earth, or for the actions of others. I do my part to live a responsible life, give some of my time and treasure to causes that I feel are important and make the world a better place, and make a positive contribution to the community and country and world in which I live. I've made mistakes and have plenty of baggage of my own to carry without feeling responsible for all the misdeeds of mankind that have happened or will happen.
You know, my belief is that the above by Gondi describes the vast majority of people on this board, even if we have different ideas about how to go about making the world a better place and making a positive contribution to our community and our country. I think we would do well to remember that about each other.
I like what I'm hearin. Thx, gents, I didn't say it better myself. Parting shot, the fact that you give a d*mn shows that you feel responsible. Peace. (And power to you Gondi for being a hero to one of the special kids, far as I'm concerned that puts you in the VIP class on the heaven bus.)
So the state of South Carolina has authorized a demonstration by the KKK at the state Capitol building in support of the flag. The Governor Nikki Haley did not endorse the permit and supports the removal of the flag. She is smartly running for the hills away from this one.
Despite all the division over this issues Even racists and bigots have the right to voice their opinions. God Bless America.
Gonna miss those "Daisy Dukes"
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/tv-land-pulls-dukes-hazzard-reruns/story?id=32152437
Never mind. Must be nice to feel so distanced from it all. Never a twinge of conscience over anything, like when we fill the gas tank with arab blood, or crap on the environment. It's all just the world and nothing to do with me personally. Sorry to rain on your happy parade. This is clearly the common view here, so I'll leave off. Always mystified me how folks can compartmentalize like that. I envy you your peace of mind.
Life is too short to feel shame and guilt for things that happened long before I was walking this earth, or for the actions of others. I do my part to live a responsible life, give some of my time and treasure to causes that I feel are important and make the world a better place, and make a positive contribution to the community and country and world in which I live. I've made mistakes and have plenty of baggage of my own to carry without feeling responsible for all the misdeeds of mankind that have happened or will happen.
For once we agree. Well put. I don't believe in collective guilt. My ancestors were being harassed in Europe during the times of which we speak. I am glad to live in a nation that owns its mistakes and rectifies them.
So the state of South Carolina has authorized a demonstration by the KKK at the state Capitol building in support of the flag. The Governor Nikki Haley did not endorse the permit and supports the removal of the flag. She is smartly running for the hills away from this one.
Despite all the division over this issues Even racists and bigots have the right to voice their opinions. God Bless America.
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150629/PC16/150629298/kkk-to-rally-for-confederate-flag-july-18-at-statehouse/blockquote >Last sentence, absolutely -- am wearing my red white & blue tye die as we speak
Sentence before that, no way -- racists & bigots deserve to have their teeth kicked in for spewing their violent, hateful bile -- it's purposely meant to incite violence, that's why I feel they DON'T have the right to run off at the mouth --
it's too bad the gov doesn't say THAT -- but such common sense would cost her the electionthe anciently-old movie "Skokie" w/Danny Kaye, is interesting on this subject -- it's very well done, & peace --
Gonna miss those "Daisy Dukes"
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/tv-land-pulls-dukes-hazzard-reruns/story?id=32152437
There was nothing racist about that show. It's ironic that the "enemy" was the (white) good ole by network if there was one,
Some folks just plain unfriendly I guess.
So, I gotta know. Is gina a dood or not?
NO.
Southerners have white pride and I will not apologize for that or accept subservience or second class citizenry. Why should we be ashamed to be white?
White pride? Good luck with that supremacy thing. The real Supremes backed Diana Ross and they were black.
Pride is not the same as supremacy.
