When Les Miles is in that situation you would think the other coach would be little wary. He has been known to call those kinda plays.
Strat, is this the most embarrassing loss under Mora? Maybe not when you consider some of the key D players not on the field Thursday night, but man. That game...right off the bat. Force Stanford to punt, 3rd and 1 and they THROW, get O PI, then pick 6. Then next series Perkins takes Bruins to RZ and penalty negates TD. Then penalty moves them back further. Get the FG, then Stan runs the KO back for TD. Easiest start for Cardinal imaginable.
Well it was the most points UCLA has given up since 2010. Granted some key players are injured but all the penalties are what is most frustrating. Year in and year out, UCLA is one of the most penalized teams.
Thursday is a must win against kal. It's going to be who can outscore the other rather than stop the other. We'll see.
GO BRUINS!
[Edited on 10/29/2015 by StratDal]
WOW, what just happened? i was watching the mich st vs mich game and and ........i was watching and WOW
I don't really watch college football much anymore, but as a Wisconsin grad who must naturally hate Michigan, as well as someone who thinks Jim Harbaugh is a shi1t head and was happy to see his 49ers "era" collapse, I really appreciated everything that happened at the end of that game.
WOW, what just happened? i was watching the mich st vs mich game and and ........i was watching and WOW
That was painful. 🙁 
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
I'd like to think I saw the Sooners going up to Manhattan and destroying K-State coming, but I didn't. Stoops is 15-1 in the week immediately following the Texas game and now 7-0 following a loss to the Longhorns, but still...
Here's a legit question at this point...just how good are the Utah Utes? Running the table is not out of the question. Six games and a conference championship game to go, yes.
Here's a legit question at this point...just how good are the Utah Utes? Running the table is not out of the question. Six games and a conference championship game to go, yes.
Quoting myself for posterity. That, and to plead temporary insanity for placing any kind of high-handed belief in a Pac-12 team.
😛 
😛 😛 😛
Quoting myself for posterity. That, and to plead temporary insanity for placing any kind of high-handed belief in a Pac-12 team.
Ouch, at least the Ducks didn't lose this weekend.
WOW!
Ducks!
WOW!
Ducks!
Thank you Ducks! Bruins now control their own destiny. GO BRUINS! BEAT THE BUFFS!
Best upsets are always the ones nobody sees coming...
South Florida vs Navy?
North Carolina St vs Clemson?
Maryland vs Iowa?
Georgia vs Florida?
Texas Tech vs Oklahoma State?
Minnesota vs Michigan?
Temple vs Notre Dame?
Washington State vs Stanford?
Surely OU wouldn't lose to KU, nor Tulane beating Memphis, or Colorado upsetting UCLA, or Beavs handing Utes back-to-back Ls will they?
[Edited on 10/31/2015 by nebish]
Surely OU wouldn't lose to KU
If that were to happen I'm jumping out of the nearest window.
quote:Surely OU wouldn't lose to KU
If that were to happen I'm jumping out of the nearest window.
That would be an appropriate reaction.
I must say, as someone who trolls this thread in the background more regularly than you think, I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of talk about how this pick 'em season (and especially the current rankings) is/are going.
I mean not one "hey, that dude doesn't even post anymore! Why is he even allowed to participate?" or "look at his status, does he even qualify?".
Yet I, alone, sit on top of the rankings. With quiet, dignity & grace. heh heh.
I expected better from you people! 
After losing the Friday game, I thought about completely reversing all my picks for Saturday. I wish I had........... 😮 😛
Chris! Was wondering about you not long ago...
Chris!
I was too, right about 6 or 7:00 Saturday after a certain game ended.
You know how it goes around here these days. Seemed like for a while in last couple years threads I was just talking to myself 😉
Might be about time another one of our long lost friends chimes in, CLEMSON #1!? No beef with it though, just so strange to see them in a position like that. While their 4 opponents with winning records seems a little weak, I don't think people should overlook the the 31 pt win over App St in week 2. App St is 7-1 and dating back to last season the Mountaineers from Boone have won 13 of their last 14. After Notre Dame I think beating App St by 31 is legitimately Clemson's second best win. Not sure what that says about the ACC really, I mean it is just the ACC so not much I guess. Would like to see them play UNC this year, maybe we'll get that in the ACC Title game.
Dabo says he is throwing a pizza party at the stadium if they are #1 in the final poll!
While you are stopping by Chris, any thoughts on the UK game this week? Seems like Georgia and Kentucky are fairly comparable teams at this point. Clear edge to UGA on D still, but who do you give an edge at QB or on O or dare I ask....on the folks with the headsets on the sidelines? OC Shannon Dawson > Schottenheimer....Mark Stoops > than Mark Richt? +14 seems like a gift with Cats.
Just saw the CFP Rankings. Seems Alabama is ranked that high just as a way to hype up this weekends game against LSU. 3 Big Ten teams in the top 10
Chris!
Ha Ha...New House, New Job...seems like before I blinked it was only February.
How are you?
After losing the Friday game, I thought about completely reversing all my picks for Saturday. I wish I had........... 😮 😛
Actually, that's what I do on another poll I was doing so bad in...just reversed my picks.
It didn't work! 😮
Chris!
I was too, right about 6 or 7:00 Saturday after a certain game ended.
Um...OK, if you must know, I was drunk. And not just your average "I may had one or two too many" drunk. I mean that bad kind of drunk. The kind that made me afraid to hand out candy to little kids drunk.
In all seriousness though. I knew this team was overrated after the Tennessee game. I knew it wasn't a top 5 class team after Alabama. I knew we were going to lose to Florida. I refused to believe the changing of the QB wasn't anything other than the coaches trying to spark the offense and that Lambert would get a decent amount of snaps. Even Ramsey. You know, the old, "if you have 3 quarterbacks...." thing. Um, wow, I haven't felt this bad about Georgia football since Ray Goff was coach. hence - drunk.
Might be about time another one of our long lost friends chimes in, CLEMSON #1!? No beef with it though, just so strange to see them in a position like that. While their 4 opponents with winning records seems a little weak, I don't think people should overlook the the 31 pt win over App St in week 2. App St is 7-1 and dating back to last season the Mountaineers from Boone have won 13 of their last 14. After Notre Dame I think beating App St by 31 is legitimately Clemson's second best win. Not sure what that says about the ACC really, I mean it is just the ACC so not much I guess. Would like to see them play UNC this year, maybe we'll get that in the ACC Title game.
Or Duke! I'm not saying I think Duke would beat them. But it sure would be interesting. My new boss went to Duke. He told a funny story about taping the Miami game only to have a neighbor who went to Miami spill the beans at a Halloween party. funny!
Yeah, Clemson #1 - I can buy that. Actually I can buy every team in there but would like to see Baylor or TCU in there. What do you think it would take for either of those teams to get some BCS love?
Dabo says he is throwing a pizza party at the stadium if they are #1 in the final poll!
Hmmmmm....I dunno...hold the pepperoni I guess. LSU looks pretty strong and I guess in college football you can ride the back of one player - especially in Fournette. I can't discount Ohio State either but they've still got Michigan and State...oughta be interesting. Bama I think I would sell too but ya never know.
What do you think?
While you are stopping by Chris, any thoughts on the UK game this week? Seems like Georgia and Kentucky are fairly comparable teams at this point. Clear edge to UGA on D still, but who do you give an edge at QB or on O or dare I ask....on the folks with the headsets on the sidelines? OC Shannon Dawson > Schottenheimer....Mark Stoops > than Mark Richt? +14 seems like a gift with Cats.
The "I went to Georgia when Herschel played" part of me just refuses to believe this team is gonna lay down for the rest of the year. But gee whiz...who's gonna score 14 points for them when they haven't been able to score a TD in 2+ games? Wow, +14 really? Yeah...that's generous.
And I have eyes - yes, clouded with rose colored glasses most of the time - I saw what Alabama did to us. I saw us blow a big lead to a "More" comparable Tennessee team. I saw us get molested & like a drunken sailor in shanghai last week.
Richt? Nice guy! Great values! makes me proud we're on the same side! But man, there is a distinct personality that has attached itself to Georgia football in the past few seasons with him as HC.
OK, Jenkins will be back...not sure about Thompson but if the UK O-line plays like they did against UT, that QB of theirs will have to carry that team. And I'm not saying that can't be done. Georgia's defense is better than UK's offense. Now, is Georgia's offense better than UK's defense? UK is #12 in the conference in total defense and UGA is #8 and we don't even know who's going to start at QB. the game is in Athens that's good news. Bad news is - tickets oughta be real easy to come by.
As far as the headset handicapping goes - I think UK has a talent deficiency and that's not a knock, just that in a year or two they'll be in better shape I think. But UGA has a coaching problem and you can't be a UGA fan and not be able to admit that to yourself. Execution isn't there because of poor coaching and when execution is there it's bad decision making.
I just can't believe Georgia will lose this game. They could win by 1 or 30 who the hell knows?
what do you think?
But speaking of teams turning around...Here in Nashville, I can remember the talk before the Georgia game was that Butch Jones was in trouble. He's got them playing really good right now and they'll run the table and make a bowl game! Hell they may even finish ahead of Georgia! They're finally playing the way folks predicted they would at the beginning of the season, eh?
OK so, this is more than I've written in two years...don't get used to it...unless I win the pick 'em and then, LOOK OUT! they'll be no living with me!
Just saw the CFP Rankings. Seems Alabama is ranked that high just as a way to hype up this weekends game against LSU. 3 Big Ten teams in the top 10
Yeah, Clemson #1 - I can buy that. Actually I can buy every team in there but would like to see Baylor or TCU in there. What do you think it would take for either of those teams to get some BCS love?
Yeah, I think Alabama deserves alot of love, but not quite sure it is top 4 kind of love. I guess their win over Wisconsin is a feather in the cap of sorts (not a big believer in Wisconsin here), but if we are evaluating losses, the strength of the Ole Miss is to be determined. Ole Miss had all the breaks go their way in that game and you could make a case that Bama out played them despite losing. I am not sure they or their resume is all that much stronger to trump them ahead of another undefeated team. But kind of pointless to spend much time talking about it really.
Unfortunately with these rankings out now all we get from tv and radio media is playoff talk (as if it wasn't enough already). Game previews and predictions are just oh by the way things now, as if there aren't any other games until January for these folks.
Jury is out on the Big XII powers to some extent right? I mean, with Seth Russell at QB I thought Baylor could be the best team in the whole country. We'll find out how much of a drop off there is with the new kid playing. Nobody knew Russell before the season started, so not like a huge drop in experience and the new kid has played some - supposedly is the highest rated QB ever to commit to Baylor.
I think TCU is alot more interesting right now than I thought they would be. I bet an under 10.5 win total on them and felt pretty good about it until recently. They had those games in Sept-Oct that they looked pretty shaky. But now, Boykin is really starting to look like a Heisman guy he was hyped to be and I think their defense reached a tipping point in a sense that no longer are they dealing with injuries and now they've bounced off the mat and are improving. WVU has a way of making opposing defenses look better than they are - a rarity in the Big XII.
We'll just learn alot more about the top 3-4 Big XII teams this month since they all play eachother. I was surprised that Oklahoma State beat T Tech, so if I was expecting TT to beat them I guess I'm expecting TCU to beat them now too. I feel like I have no good handle on them. Was surprised they beat WVU as well.
I just can't believe Georgia will lose this game. They could win by 1 or 30 who the hell knows?
what do you think?
Well, I think Kentucky is better than the final score vs Tennessee shows. Not trying to be one to take plays out of a game, but Vols did get 2 special team TDs and a 4 yard drive for a TD, so that is 21 pts that UK never made them work for - which they way that game went Vols could've still scored the conventional way. But some of that kind of stuff can hurt them again this week I suppose. 24-14 halftime, 52-21 final. Tennessee was certainly the superior team and were double digit favorites there for good reason as they proved.
Georgia D is going to make things tough for them. However I feel that the Ds that UK has been going against in Tenn, Miss St, Missouri, Florida...I don't feel playing Georgia's good D will be a huge step up from some of the Ds they have faced this year. In those games, they split with a close win and close loss vs Mizzou and UF and wore down vs Tenn and Miss St. But Tenn and Miss St have an offense, they have some things they are good at and can lean on. Mizzou and UF (even with Grier at that point their O wasn't real hot yet), those teams didn't have much O and UK was able to hang with them.
So obviously you'd have to put Georgia among those with limited offense. We know Chubb was special. The only thing I can say about the QB situation going into last week is that it reeked of pure desperation.
Sure the going will be easier vs UK D compared to UF D, but Georgia O isn't especially good at anything so what do they exploit against Kentucky?
Honestly I see it being a pretty even game. I feel Georgia should win. UK doesn't have any momentum and are struggling some too. If they were a little better off I'd have no problem calling the upset. Just two teams finding themselves, rate the Dawgs better off, but not by much.
[Edited on 11/5/2015 by nebish]
Over/under on Oklahoma State vs. TCU is 76.5, I'd take the over. 😛
Over/under on Oklahoma State vs. TCU is 76.5, I'd take the over. 😛
Is that for one team or both!
I hate rankings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate rankings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hear you.
Normally I enjoy kind of ranking teams myself. I don't do any kind of power ratings that alot of handicappers do, but just kind of ranking resumes.
The problem I've had this year when thinking about it is the schedules alot of teams have played are just so weak.
Big Ten's top two east teams, Ohio State and Michigan State, have not (and do not) play any of the top 3 contenders in the west (Iowa, Wisconsin and Northwestern).
The top 4 teams in the Big XII have built their win/loss records on the mid-to-lower tier league teams so far, none of the top 4 have faced each other yet.
It is a strange year in the PAC 12 with no really great team. A couple on the cusp of being very good teams, but nobody who wows you. The mid and lower teams in the PAC 12 are much more competitive this year and the normal heavy weights at the top have taken a step back. Even Stanford, the NW loss aside, they did roll some teams for a while and would appear to be the leader out west, but I feel the need to see more. Just a 17 pt win over Washington, which the line was about 16 so they played to expectations in that one rather than exceeding them and they could easily have lost to Wazzou. So I'd like to see them be a bit more consistent, but their results vs the Washington teams just speaks to the more competitive nature of the league this year which doesn't allow for much in the way of signalling who in the PAC 12 can rank among the best in the nation.
The ACC is the ACC, so we get about 2 games vs high quality teams to grade Clemson against all regular season.
Everyone likes to pile onto the SEC with overrated claims. Which at one point in the season with so many teams in the AP top 25, they were surely overrated when we look back at some of those teams like Auburn and Arkansas, Georgia and Tennessee to an extent. But with Florida and Ole Miss stepping up and Miss St just chugging along I think SEC is probably still the best league. I still feel that Arkansas is a pretty good team despite their September struggles. Does their game vs Bama make you question Bama's strength or does it make you want to elevate Arkansas more?
The best story lines in the country I think are coming out of the American Athletic Conference who has definitely emerged as a league with a handful of quality teams. Memphis and Houston are very good, Houston may be the best of the bunch. Temple is tough as nails and Navy's first year in that league is proving to be a good quality competitive fit. And the middle of that league, while soft by power 5 standards sure, is better off than it was last year. USF and UConn aren't total dogshit anymore. Cincy can give the top teams a run for their money as well. Although UCF is total garbage this year.
Hard season so far to evaluate and rank teams really. So far, those maligned computer rankings the BCS used would probably give the best idea. But going forward in November we will know everything we will want to know soon enough I'm sure.
Looking back at some records and schedules, how about Tennessee? Just 4-4, not many people are going to point to them as a real great team or anything, BUT consider they held 4th qrt leads vs Oklahoma and Florida. OU and UF are a combined 14-2 right now. Tenn was in the game vs Bama til the very end, only losing by 4. Throw in Bama's w/l record and 3 of Vols 4 losses have come vs combined 21-3 teams and by a total of 13 pts! The other loss is vs Arkansas and came by 4 pts. 4 losses, 17 pts total.
If we were having a discussion on the top teams in the SEC, after you get past LSU and Alabama and Florida I think you have to consider Tennessee right up there with the Mississippi schools. Not on a pure w/l resume way since they lost 4 games already, but the way in which they lost them a couple different bounces or a play here or there, Vols aren't too far off being with the best in the league.
