Obama and his failed administration continue to lie to The American People about the actual unemployment rate. (real unemployment rate is 11.2%)
http://useconomy.about.com/od/suppl1/f/real_unemployment_rate.htm
CEO of Gallup calls jobless rate 'big lie' created by White House, Wall Street, media
Published February 05, 2015 - FoxNews.com
Gallup CEO: Jobless rate a 'big lie' created by White House
The chairman of the venerable Gallup research and polling firm says the official U.S. unemployment rate is really an underestimation and a “big lie" perpetuated by the White House, Wall Street and the media.
What CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed in his blog Tuesday about how the Labor Department arrives at the monthly unemployment rate is no secret -- including that Americans who have quit looking for work after four weeks are not included in the survey.
The department's current rate of 5.6 percent unemployment is the lowest since June 2008, with President Obama using his State of the Union address and campaign-style stops across the country to tout an economic recovery.
“Our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999,” Obama said in the opening lines of his January 20 address before Congress.“Our unemployment rate is now lower than it was before the financial crisis.”
Clifton says the “cheerleading” for the 5.6 number is “deafening.”
“The media loves a comeback story,” he writes. “The White House wants to score political points, and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.”
Since the start of the Great Recession, which economists largely agree began in late 2007, the unemployment rate peaked at 10 percent in October 2009 and finally got under 6 percent in September 2014.
Clifton says Americans out of work for at least four weeks are “as unemployed as one can possibly be” and argues that as many as 30 million of them are now either out of work or severely underemployed.
He points out that an out-of-work engineer, for example, performing a minimum of one hour of work a week, even mowing a lawn for $20, also is not officially counted as unemployed.
In addition, those working part time but wanting full-time work -- the so-called “severely underemployed” -- also are not counted.
“There's no other way to say this,” Clifton says. “The official unemployment rate … amounts to a big lie.”
His arguments are similar to those made by Washington Republicans after the Bureau of Labor Statistics announced the rate each month during the height of the recession. However, Gallup is an 80-year-old, nonpartisan firm.
The bureau did not return a request for comment.
Clifton suggests the biggest misconception about the official rate is that it doesn’t denote “good” full-time jobs.
“When the media, talking heads, the White House and Wall Street start reporting the truth -- the percent of Americans in good jobs; jobs that are full time and real -- then we will quit wondering why Americans aren't ‘feeling’ something that doesn't remotely reflect the reality in their lives. And we will also quit wondering what hollowed out the middle class,” he said.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/gallup-ceo-calls-unemployment-rate-big-lie/
http://www.gallup.com/topic/BLOG_TCB.aspx
Gallup shows Obama approval rating up...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/230723-poll-obama-approval-hits-50-percent
Gallup shows Obama approval rating up...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/230723-poll-obama-approval-hits-50-percent/blockquote >
That sneaky bastard sure has us all fooled. 😛
Let's say the real rate is the U6 and not the U3. Even in that case unemployment has dropped the last 4 years after peaking in 2010 due to the Banking recession of 2008 so things are improving no matter how you spin the numbers.
Of course Mule will ignore that fact or claim Obama had nothing to do with the drop.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Bill_Graham]
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
Gallup shows Obama approval rating up...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/230723-poll-obama-approval-hits-50-percent/blockquote >
__________________________________________________Irrelevant and doesn't change the fact that obama and his failed administration are liars.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
YOU, just can't get over the fact that a guy with dark skin is commander in chief. obama has done a pretty good job digging us out of the mess bush and cheney got us into[in spite of republican opposition]. mccain or romney would have buried us deeper. YOU, the clown who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits.
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"who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits"
I never said that.
Not a bad idea though. He would be making a lot more money now. Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
Gallup shows Obama approval rating up...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/230723-poll-obama-approval-hits-50-percent/blockquote >
__________________________________________________Irrelevant and doesn't change the fact that obama and his failed administration are liars.
Imagine how much higher the approval rating would be if people would give him fair credit for what he has done instead of immediately writing him off for no other reason than he is Obama. I imagine his number will continue to improve as it seems like all president's approval numbers go up when congress is controlled by the other party (see Clinton's approval ratings going up once the GOP took control of congress as an example).
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
YOU, just can't get over the fact that a guy with dark skin is commander in chief. obama has done a pretty good job digging us out of the mess bush and cheney got us into[in spite of republican opposition]. mccain or romney would have buried us deeper. YOU, the clown who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits.
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"who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits"
I never said that.
Not a bad idea though. He would be making a lot more money now. Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
You are so full of sh!t I don't know why I bother reading anything you post.
Ah, the typical 'if the numbers are getting better, it must be the way it is calculated". LOL
Of course, the number is calculated the same way it always has been, it didn't change when Obama got into office.
The whining is getting deafening...... maybe they should vote to repeal Obamacare again.... oh, wait..... 😛
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
YOU, just can't get over the fact that a guy with dark skin is commander in chief. obama has done a pretty good job digging us out of the mess bush and cheney got us into[in spite of republican opposition]. mccain or romney would have buried us deeper. YOU, the clown who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits.
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"who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits"
I never said that.
Not a bad idea though. He would be making a lot more money now. Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
You are so full of sh!t I don't know why I bother reading anything you post.
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Never the less, you did read my post but had no defense of obama's lying.
Ah, the typical 'if the numbers are getting better, it must be the way it is calculated". LOL
Of course, the number is calculated the same way it always has been, it didn't change when Obama got into office.
The whining is getting deafening...... maybe they should vote to repeal Obamacare again.... oh, wait..... 😛
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The numbers are getting better but at the slowest rate of recovery in recorded history and the economy is still in very poor shape.
The numbers continue to be weak so obama, in his never ending effort to glorify himself lies to The People.
We have the highest underemployment rate in recorded history. More "new" jobs have gone to illegal Immigrants than American citizens and the jobs obama claims to have created are part-time and low wage.
If you want to know the facts of unemployment, ask a black man who's demographic have suffered the most under obama's failed presidency.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
You are a liar.
Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
You are a liar.
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Your ignorance of the truth and the facts is typical of a liberal, aka: the definition of a low-info voter.
How do you explain the fact that in the last couple of years of the obama administration more businesses have closed than have been started?
The numbers are getting better but at the slowest rate of recovery in recorded history and the economy is still in very poor shape.
The numbers continue to be weak so obama, in his never ending effort to glorify himself lies to The People.
We have the highest underemployment rate in recorded history. More "new" jobs have gone to illegal Immigrants than American citizens and the jobs obama claims to have created are part-time and low wage.
If you want to know the facts of unemployment, ask a black man who's demographic have suffered the most under obama's failed presidency.
Do you have any idea how STUPID, IGNORANT, AND DUMB your IDIOTIC argument sounds?
A recovery is bad because it isn't as good as it could be? Would you rather a FULL BLOWN DEPRESSION?!? Where do you think the country was heading???
What have you done to contribute to the recovery Muleman? Anything? What have you done to make America a better place?
What purpose does your whining serve? Do you have a solution that would better fix the economy? How would you improve the recovery? What genius ideas do you have?
How do you explain the fact that in the last couple of years of the obama administration more businesses have closed than have been started?
How do you explain the fact that your statement isn't a fact?
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
YOU, just can't get over the fact that a guy with dark skin is commander in chief. obama has done a pretty good job digging us out of the mess bush and cheney got us into[in spite of republican opposition]. mccain or romney would have buried us deeper. YOU, the clown who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits.
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"who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits"
I never said that.
Not a bad idea though. He would be making a lot more money now. Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
are you "original glueber"
What is racist about suggesting Mark should look into owning fast food franchises for income (yes, i used Taco Bell as an example) when the ABB folded up the show? This is the kind of Sharpton tactics that have caused alot of damage to a lot of innocent people.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by OriginalGoober]
The numbers are getting better but at the slowest rate of recovery in recorded history and the economy is still in very poor shape.
The numbers continue to be weak so obama, in his never ending effort to glorify himself lies to The People.
We have the highest underemployment rate in recorded history. More "new" jobs have gone to illegal Immigrants than American citizens and the jobs obama claims to have created are part-time and low wage.
If you want to know the facts of unemployment, ask a black man who's demographic have suffered the most under obama's failed presidency.
Do you have any idea how STUPID, IGNORANT, AND DUMB your IDIOTIC argument sounds?
A recovery is bad because it isn't as good as it could be? Would you rather a FULL BLOWN DEPRESSION?!? Where do you think the country was heading???
What have you done to contribute to the recovery Muleman? Anything? What have you done to make America a better place?
What purpose does your whining serve? Do you have a solution that would better fix the economy? How would you improve the recovery? What genius ideas do you have?
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What have I done?
I voted Republican and like the majority of Americans help to throw the Democrats out of power in both houses of Congress.
I also hire people into above middle class wage jobs. Something obama has failed to do.
What have I done?
I voted Republican and like the majority of Americans help to throw the Democrats out of power in both houses of Congress.I also hire people into above middle class wage jobs. Something obama has failed to do.
In my life Republicans have corned holed the economy.
Obama hired all kinds of people in above middle class wage jobs you bald faced liar. What about his entire staff? I imagine that is a lot more folks than you have hired. And what do you consider above middle class? Put some facts down - how much are you paying these folks and how many positions did you hire.
And then try answering the actual question... How would you improve the economy? What genius ideas do you have?
Economic decline: More businesses close than open under Obama
http://www.examiner.com/article/economic-decline-more-businesses-close-than-open-under-obama
http://article.wn.com/view/2014/08/05/Economic_decline_More_businesses_close_than_open_under_Obama/
http://www.newsmax.com/Limbaugh/Business-Startups-Obama-EPA/2015/01/16/id/619009/
Economic decline: More businesses close than open under Obama
http://www.examiner.com/article/economic-decline-more-businesses-close-than -open-under-obama
http://article.wn.com/view/2014/08/05/Economic_decline_More_businesses_clos e_than_open_under_Obama/
http://www.newsmax.com/Limbaugh/Business-Startups-Obama-EPA/2015/01/16/id/6 19009/
Right wing hogwash that means nothing. What kind of businesses? They are comparing 1991 to 2011 - are you talking about Blockbusters and Radio Shacks?
Are you actually saying that these cherry picked stats mean the economy isn't recovering? Somebody ought to put you up for the Nobel Prize in Economics.
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
YOU, just can't get over the fact that a guy with dark skin is commander in chief. obama has done a pretty good job digging us out of the mess bush and cheney got us into[in spite of republican opposition]. mccain or romney would have buried us deeper. YOU, the clown who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits.
___________________________________________________
"who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits"
I never said that.
Not a bad idea though. He would be making a lot more money now. Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
are you "original glueber"
What is racist about suggesting Mark should look into owning fast food franchises for income (yes, i used Taco Bell as an example) when the ABB folded up the show? This is the kind of Sharpton tactics that have caused alot of damage to a lot of innocent people.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by OriginalGoober]
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The liberals have to call us racist as they have no other way to make an argument.
If someone disagrees with obama’s policies, they are called a racist.
If someone is a member of the Tea Party they call you a racist. Of course they won’t acknowledge the fact that there are many black Tea Party members including Mia Love, a black lady and Tea party leader just elected to Congress or Niger Innis, a blackman and Executive Director of The Tea Party.net.
The facts just frustrate the liberals because they just cannot craft an intelligent argument.
With no weapons in their quiver, they resort to insults and name-calling, the typical signs of a weak mind.
The numbers are getting better but at the slowest rate of recovery in recorded history and the economy is still in very poor shape.
The numbers continue to be weak so obama, in his never ending effort to glorify himself lies to The People.
We have the highest underemployment rate in recorded history. More "new" jobs have gone to illegal Immigrants than American citizens and the jobs obama claims to have created are part-time and low wage.
If you want to know the facts of unemployment, ask a black man who's demographic have suffered the most under obama's failed presidency.
Do you have any idea how STUPID, IGNORANT, AND DUMB your IDIOTIC argument sounds?
A recovery is bad because it isn't as good as it could be? Would you rather a FULL BLOWN DEPRESSION?!? Where do you think the country was heading???
What have you done to contribute to the recovery Muleman? Anything? What have you done to make America a better place?
What purpose does your whining serve? Do you have a solution that would better fix the economy? How would you improve the recovery? What genius ideas do you have?
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What have I done?
I voted Republican and like the majority of Americans help to throw the Democrats out of power in both houses of Congress.I also hire people into above middle class wage jobs. Something obama has failed to do.
At your ebola clinic? 😛
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The below and most creditable finance and management organizations and companies have been reporting on the false data spewed out by the obama administration for years. The main stream media simply doesn’t report it because they have a vested interest in obama.
Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB)
Financial Accounting Standards Advisory Council (FASAC)
Investor Advisory Committee (IAC)
Not-for-Profit Advisory Committee (NAC)
Small Business Advisory Committee (SBAC)
Association for Financial Professionals (AFP)
Barron's
Investor's Daily Business
Financial Times
Wall Street Journal
You might want to put down your NY Times, turn off MSNBC and read credible, factual information.
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
YOU, just can't get over the fact that a guy with dark skin is commander in chief. obama has done a pretty good job digging us out of the mess bush and cheney got us into[in spite of republican opposition]. mccain or romney would have buried us deeper. YOU, the clown who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits.
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"who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits"
I never said that.
Not a bad idea though. He would be making a lot more money now. Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
are you "original glueber"
What is racist about suggesting Mark should look into owning fast food franchises for income (yes, i used Taco Bell as an example) when the ABB folded up the show? This is the kind of Sharpton tactics that have caused alot of damage to a lot of innocent people.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by OriginalGoober]
You are full of sh!t, and you have made other racist statements in the past
Not likely at all , but if one doesn't agree with illegal immigration I can see where you are going with this. Standard playbook.
Speaking of playbooks, the Tribune had an article yesterday about how conservatives shut down any discussion of race by claiming liberals are calling them racist if they disagree with Obama.......
interesting organization and i trust their judgement. seems their job is to find mistakes and write rules so, i'm not surprised they find accounting errors.
lol its kinda like its own little shadow gov't
Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Accounting_Standards_Board
Financial Accounting Standards Advisory Council (FASAC)
http://www.fasb.org/fasac/
Investor Advisory Committee (IAC)
http://www.fasb.org/investors_technical_advisory_committee/
Not-for-Profit Advisory Committee (NAC)
http://www.fasb.org/jsp/FASB/Page/SectionPage&cid=1176156543050
Small Business Advisory Committee (SBAC)
http://www.fasb.org/small_business_advisory_committee/
Association for Financial Professionals (AFP)
http://www.afponline.org/
Everybody getting along this evening?
interesting organization and i trust their judgement. seems their job is to find mistakes and write rules so, i'm not surprised they find accounting errors.
lol its kinda like its own little shadow gov't
Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Accounting_Standards_BoardFinancial Accounting Standards Advisory Council (FASAC)
http://www.fasb.org/fasac/Investor Advisory Committee (IAC)
http://www.fasb.org/investors_technical_advisory_committee/Not-for-Profit Advisory Committee (NAC)
http://www.fasb.org/jsp/FASB/Page/SectionPage&cid=1176156543050Small Business Advisory Committee (SBAC)
http://www.fasb.org/small_business_advisory_committee/Association for Financial Professionals (AFP)
http://www.afponline.org/
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GAAP & FSAB have set and maintained the Standards & Practices for accounting and financial reporting for many decades.
You should ask a degreed and practicing professional accountant or any CEO/CFO/COO what this means.
THese numbers as well as their Keystone numbers are all adjusted by temporal factors to make them fit their agenda and give brainwashed folks like Pops42 reassurance that Obama is still awesome. Keystone will create less than 30 jobs or some ridiculous figure so we should just continue to sit on the couch and collect unemployment instead of employ thousands of people for 2-3 years and allow them to save up some dough and learn a new skill.
Middle class fear and uncertainty about the economy will continue to plague President Obama and of course Hillary, no matter how much Obama says things are improving. its curtains for the Democrats in November.
YOU, just can't get over the fact that a guy with dark skin is commander in chief. obama has done a pretty good job digging us out of the mess bush and cheney got us into[in spite of republican opposition]. mccain or romney would have buried us deeper. YOU, the clown who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits.
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"who said "Marc Quinnonnes should open a taco bell" after the ABB calls it quits"
I never said that.
Not a bad idea though. He would be making a lot more money now. Of course with the obama administrations regulations opening a business is now almost impossible.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by Muleman1994]
are you "original glueber"
What is racist about suggesting Mark should look into owning fast food franchises for income (yes, i used Taco Bell as an example) when the ABB folded up the show? This is the kind of Sharpton tactics that have caused alot of damage to a lot of innocent people.
[Edited on 2/5/2015 by OriginalGoober]
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The liberals have to call us racist as they have no other way to make an argument.
If someone disagrees with obama’s policies, they are called a racist.
If someone is a member of the Tea Party they call you a racist. Of course they won’t acknowledge the fact that there are many black Tea Party members including Mia Love, a black lady and Tea party leader just elected to Congress or Niger Innis, a blackman and Executive Director of The Tea Party.net.
The facts just frustrate the liberals because they just cannot craft an intelligent argument.
With no weapons in their quiver, they resort to insults and name-calling, the typical signs of a weak mind.
You are a weak minded racist clown, when you suggest a musician with a hispanic name open a taco bell, I'm not the only one who called you on it, you fool nobody.
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You missed the point completely.
His name and the business have nothing to do with the fact that under the obama administration and set so many regulations that it is almost impossible to open a new company.
I have yet to see any liberal post a defense of or justification of the endless failures of the obama and his administration.
Yet you and some of the others post insults and resort to name calling.
Because I can demonstrate the complete lack of accomplishment by this president and administration that makes me “a weak minded racist clown”?
I have no need to try and fool a fool. The obvious is exactly that.
Brian Williams said the numbers are all accurate and truthful. That's good enough for me.
Brian Williams said the numbers are all accurate and truthful. That's good enough for me.
I watched Brian Williams this evening and he said nothing of the sort.
More invented facts from the right.
