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CSU plans to cancel most in-person classes and go online this fall, chancellor says

By Nina AgrawalStaff Writer
May 12, 2020
12:01 PM
UPDATED 6:18 PM

California State University, the nation’s largest four-year college system, plans to cancel most in-person classes in the fall and instead offer instruction primarily online, Chancellor Timothy White announced Tuesday.

The vast majority of classes across the 23-campus Cal State system will be taught online, White said, with some limited exceptions that allow for in-person activity.

“Our university, when open without restrictions and fully in person … is a place where over 500,000 people come together in close and vibrant proximity,” White said at a meeting of Cal State’s Board of Trustees. “That approach sadly just isn’t in the cards now.”

The decision to continue remotely reflects how schools throughout the country are grappling with reopening challenges inflicted by the coronavirus crisis — and what campuses will look like when they do decide to reopen.

University of California officials are examining the parameters of what it would take to open their campuses and are expected to announce plans in June or July. UC spokeswoman Claire Doan reiterated Tuesday that campuses were exploring a “mixed approach with some instruction delivered in classroom and lab settings, while other classes will be primarily online.”

President Janet Napolitano said campuses will first be required to satisfy systemwide guidelines to ensure public health and safety, and any reopening “will probably be greatly reduced.”

White said his decision resulted from a confluence of issues around COVID-19, including the health and safety of students, faculty and staff, as well as significant financial constraints.

The Cal State system is projecting losses of $337 million for the spring term alone as a result of the pandemic, including loss of revenue from student housing, parking and campus bookstores, as well as unanticipated costs related to cleaning, overtime and the shift to distance education. The figure does not reflect offsets from federal aid or operational savings.

White’s announcement came the same day that infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House coronavirus task force, told a Senate panel it would be “a bridge too far” to think treatments or vaccines could be available in time to facilitate students’ reentry into schools this fall.

It also follows an earlier move by Cal State Fullerton, which in late April became one of the first universities in the nation to announce it was planning for remote instruction this fall.

White said that for the small number of classes where in-person instruction is “indispensable and can be justified” — such as clinical nursing courses, biology labs or merchant marine training — sufficient resources and protocols will have to be in place to ensure the health and safety of students and teachers.

“The enrollment per section will be less; for instruction and research laboratories, the distance between participants greater; the need for personal protective equipment appropriate to the circumstance prevalent; and the need to sanitize and disinfect spaces and equipment between users essential,” White said.

On some campuses and within some departments, course offerings will be exclusively virtual. At others that rely heavily on hands-on experience, there may be more exceptions.

White said planning for an online fall term was necessary because of the forecast of additional waves of COVID-19 outbreaks later this year, possibly coupled with a difficult flu season. He said it would be “irresponsible” to wait until August to make a decision, only to “scramble and not be prepared to provide a robust learning and support environment.”

He also acknowledged that the university system lacks the resources to provide coronavirus testing for everybody and to trace the contacts of infected people should there be an outbreak on a campus.

CSU students and families, along with faculty and staff, can expect to receive more information this month from their respective campuses about instruction in the fall.

Availability of on-campus housing will be reduced, and student athletes shouldn’t expect to resume regular sports before faculty and students return to campuses, White said.

White reached the decision about the fall term with all 23 campus presidents and also had discussions with representatives of faculty and student groups, a spokesman for the chancellor’s office said.

The statewide academic senate has not adopted any resolution about instruction in the fall and was not formally asked for feedback on the decision to go primarily online, Chair Catherine Nelson said. But, she said, “I am not surprised by the decision, given the incredible complexity of mounting any level of in-person courses in the fall.”

Nelson said the senate has asked campuses to conduct surveys of their faculties’ needs and will request resources to meet them, such as professional development, hardware and software.

While many campuses have extended the deadline for students to submit their “intent to register,” CSU officials told trustees Tuesday that early numbers show generally normal enrollment levels.

White urged incoming and current students to stay the course and persist in their pursuit of higher education.

“This is not the time to pause or decline an opportunity to attend a CSU campus,” he said. “Robust financial aid remains available.”

Trustees did not make any decisions about tuition or fees for the fall term. But several of them, led by ex officio trustee Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis, urged the board to avoid considering a tuition hike to plug budget holes.

“There’s going to be a lot of students questioning the value of going into debt for higher education if you’re not physically in the classroom,” Kounalakis said.

Times staff writer Teresa Watanabe contributed to this report.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-12/coronavirus-reopening-csu-fall-online-classes


 
Posted : May 13, 2020 4:41 am
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There is a growing issue of students suing their schools for lower tuition costs with online classes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2020/05/09/iu-student-files-lawsuit-seeks-reimbursement-after-classes-moved-online-coronavirus/3103393001/


 
Posted : May 13, 2020 4:43 am
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...lower tuition costs with online classes...

Some type of compromise should absolutely be agreed to; many students and many parents of students have seen their income affected by this pandemic, whether by being furloughed or laid off through no fault of their own.


 
Posted : May 13, 2020 8:21 am
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It will be interesting to see if other states follow. Big impact to campus life and athetics.

My daughter graduated years ago from college. If I had a kid still in college, health concerns would be number 1.


 
Posted : May 13, 2020 9:04 am
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There is a growing issue of students suing their schools for lower tuition costs with online classes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2020/05/09/iu-student-files-lawsuit-seeks-reimbursement-after-classes-moved-online-coronavirus/3103393001//blockquote >

I hope the lawsuits pile on and demand a good percentage of their tuition returned. Here you are, the assumption that you'll receive quality classroom time, student and instructor personal interaction, access to the library, computers, counseling, housing, athletics, social functions and camaraderie...I call B.S. College is expensive and add the interest from student loans; the Universities are obligated to quite a bit more than saying "Learn from home"...


 
Posted : May 13, 2020 10:16 am
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I hope this re-evaluates how we look at higher education as a whole. It's gotten out of control. The costs to students have skyrocketed over the past decade while wages to educators have not. Staff bloat is a big cause, I believe. I worked in higher ed as staff and as an adjunct and found that as universities became more of a business, even public universities, the amount of unnecessary staff and administrators ballooned. Every third employee is a "Dean" or a "Vice Dean" and makes six figures. The expansion of HR Departments doesn't help, but that's another rant...

The bad news for universities is they won't likely be spending any less money, except maybe maintenance and dorm staff. They still own empty facilities, unused real estate. Professors and Instructors will still be under the same contracts. Most public university staff, and many private ones, are represented by a union and it's hard to eliminate a job someone inhabits. A lot of universities have pivoted some of their courses to be available online even before COVID-19 arrived, but that only worked for some subjects. Lit and language students won't be as affected by learning remotely, but art, engineering, sciences education are pretty impossible to continue remotely.

Not all subjects cost the same to run, but the costs to students remains the same. It will be interesting to see if universities adjust that or not, and how enrollment responds. Will some students look for other alternatives? What good or fun is USC online?


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Posted : May 13, 2020 10:50 am
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Here's one point of view:

“The students are going to have an uphill battle unless a school has actually shut down and they’re not getting credit,” said James Keller, co-chair of the higher-education practice at Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP in Philadelphia, where Drexel is. “The basic contractual agreement is, I pay tuition, and if I satisfy academic requirements, you give me credit. That’s still happening.”

Certainly seems to me that some refunds would be in order. Online classes, in some cases you are essentially teaching yourself without much involvement from the professors according to some of the examples in the class-action lawsuit. Colleges say they have had expense in putting these courses online, but won't pass those costs along (oh, gee thanks).

5,137 colleges and universities got $12.5 billion from CARES including some with very large endowments.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2020/05/05/americas-colleges--universities-awarded-125-billion-in-coronavirus-bailout--who-can-get-it-and-how-much/#60464ede3181


 
Posted : May 16, 2020 6:00 pm
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The problem is the costs for the University does not go down, the CSU system is already a bargain compared to most universities, and the state is going to already be starting with a huge budget gap next year. As much as I would love to see CSU give their students a financial break, I don't think the money is there to do it. The students are always welcome to skip a semester if they don't think they are getting their money's worth.


 
Posted : May 16, 2020 6:44 pm
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Half the money from CARES schools get has to go to emergency grants to students.

Higher Ed getting big cuts from state budgets now too.

Read example of Northwest Missouri State received $4.8 million from CARES, but with $2.4 million required to go to emergency student grants, the remaining $2.4 million doesn't even cover refunding of room and board. And the state just cut 9% of their annual revenue with a larger cut expected next year.


 
Posted : May 16, 2020 6:59 pm
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