It looks like it's gonna be either one of those two against Trump. Who ya got? Is the the liberal/Democrat nominee strong enough to take down The Donald?
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Not since McCain ran has the vp pick to bring alot of attention to help decide this one. Age and health are two big factors for joe and bernie
Possible vp picks;
Andrew yang
Amy klobucjar
Hillary
The georgia gov race dem who lost
Ocasio Cortez
For those not familiar with betting, odds are on winning/risking $100. So -600 means you put up $600 to win $100 (you get your $600 back + $100 if it wins). +400 means you risk $100 to win $400 (you get your $100 back + $400).
Democrat nominee
Biden -600
Bernie +400
POTUS
Trump -160
Biden +150
Bernie +1200
Donald Trump will:
win Electoral College, lose popular vote +150
lose Electoral College and lose popular vote +200
win Electoral College and popular vote +250
lose electoral college, win popular vote +1400
Dem VP pick:
Kamala Harris +250
Amy Klobuchar +300
Elizabeth Warren +450
Stacey Abrams +550
Pete Buttigieg +1200
C. Cortez Mastro +1600
Julian Castro +1600
Nina Turner +1600
Michelle Obama +1800
Tammy Duckworth +1800
Beto O'Rourke +2000
Cory Booker +2500
Hillary Clinton +2500
Tammy Baldwin +2500
Andrew Yang +3300
Sherrod Brown +5000
Tulsi Gabbard +5000
https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/politics-futures
I'm writing in John Delaney
Possible vp picks;
Ocasio Cortez
We could never be this Lucky
Possible vp picks;
Ocasio Cortez
We could never be this Lucky
She is smarter than trump, pence, and especially that mental midget John Kennedy r-L.A.
Could not disagree more.
Email tonight from the Bernie camp:
Now that it is Bernie vs. Biden, the question of this campaign is increasingly clear:
Which side are you on?
Are you on the side of a candidate, Joe Biden, who has voted for disastrous trade deals that cost American workers jobs, or Bernie Sanders, the candidate who opposed those trade deals?
Are you on the side of the candidate who supported the war in Iraq under George W. Bush, or Bernie Sanders, the candidate who led the opposition to that war?
Are you on the side of a candidate who says “nothing will fundamentally change” for the financial elite and corporate America if he is elected, or Bernie Sanders, the candidate promising the transformational change we need.
Here is the truth: Joe Biden has a lot of big donors and he has super PACs supporting him. We raise our money from lots of people at $2.70 at a time.
And now that we are heads-up, it is going to take A LOT of donations TODAY if we are going to overcome Biden’s big-money support and win the delegates we must in the next two weeks.
Bernie needs you more than ever:
Can you make a $2.70 contribution to our campaign TODAY to help ensure Bernie Sanders wins this nomination and represents us in the campaign to beat Trump?
We’ll have more soon, but there is truly no more important day than today to add your first donation to our campaign.
All my best,
Faiz Shakir
Campaign Manager
He asks for money atleast once a day, sometimes more and it's always the most important day ever to donate, or the world will stop or something like that.
Can she pronounce, or even ever heard of Ben Bernanke? Because her friend Rashida Tlaib apparently hasn't. I don't know a lot of stuff either. But if you sit on a financial services committee it would seem appropriate to know things like who Ben Bernanke is and what his name sounds like when properly pronounced.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4854465/user-clip-rashida-tlaib-bernanke
Possible vp picks;
Ocasio Cortez
We could never be this Lucky
She is smarter than trump, pence, and especially that mental midget John Kennedy r-L.A.
Could not disagree more.
I'll bet she know's what "Aleppo" is, unlike fu×ck-wit, Gary johnson.
Well, she does not fully grasp the concept that people entering this country under the guise of asylum, should be doing so at a legal point of entry. Fairly important if you are duly sworn to uphold the law.
Possible vp picks;
Ocasio Cortez
We could never be this Lucky
She is smarter than trump, pence, and especially that mental midget John Kennedy r-L.A.
Could not disagree more.
I'll bet she know's what "Aleppo" is, unlike fu×ck-wit, Gary johnson.
Well, she does not fully grasp the concept that people entering this country under the guise of asylum, should be doing so at a legal point of entry. Fairly important if you are duly sworn to uphold the law.
And YOU fail to grasp that, most illegal immigration comes from those who over stay their Visa. Which means they come in through a legal point of entry. https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings
Then again, I am not masquerading as an elected official.
May I add that Gary did not seem to excel at deleting e-mails either.
While I'm hoping that Bernie takes it and forces the inevitable reckoning between progressives and moderates in the party, unless Biden has a mountain of unforced errors and gaffs (not an unrealistic possibility) I say he's gonna take it. Dem elites and big money is just gonna flood his way in order to avoid what would be political chaos and suicide if Bernie was their candidate.
On the other side of the fence, though running unopposed, Trump's turnout set records in a number of states. The Dem media is trumpeting good turnout for their side in a number of contests, which is all fine and well. But I doubt they're factoring this, paving the way for another unforced "surprise" for their followers come November...
Bernie vs. Joe debates will be interesting. I honestly figure that Bernie will clean Joe's clock in this contest.
But, alas! The Democrats have promised to support any of their candidates that make it to the show ... so long as it ain't Bernie. Fellow Dem's and CNN are already tossing Bernie under a fleet of buses ! Joe wins the nomination - then goes on to lose to Trump. We had our chance! 😉
Bernie's messaging in these debates is always very sharp. He can get a little flustered when properly challenged which disappoints me we aren't going to see Bloomberg debating Bernie. Joe should hold his own but I don't think he can knock Bernie off his game on the debate stage.
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Trump could shoot someone in the face on Park Avenue and then pour 4 million gallons of pure, undiluted Corona Virus into the Manhattan water supply and his supporters wouldn't give a rat's a$$. His minions are just more unified than the Democrats. It sucks, but it's the truth.
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Trump could shoot someone in the face on Park Avenue and then pour 4 million gallons of pure, undiluted Corona Virus into the Manhattan water supply and his supporters wouldn't give a rat's a$$. His minions are just more unified than the Democrats. It sucks, but it's the truth.
You are correct about Trump's loyal base, but I'm going to repeat - the turnout for the 2018 flip of the HOR as well as what we are seeing in record numbers for Dem Primaries shows a rejection of Trump, and I have to believe it will intensify leading into November. Trump hasn't proven he can't poll beyond 40 some pct. The margins in 3 states of < 100K votes in last election can easily be flipped. He is toxic, and the electorate will respond. I will take that to the bank. As flawed as Trump was, he ran against HC. Neither Biden nor Bernie are HC...so the boogeywoman pile on is gone. We can have an esoteric discussion about strenghts / weaknesses of Bernie & Joe, but neither is Trump, and that is all that needs be said. That is enough to run Trump out of the WH.
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Trump could shoot someone in the face on Park Avenue and then pour 4 million gallons of pure, undiluted Corona Virus into the Manhattan water supply and his supporters wouldn't give a rat's a$$. His minions are just more unified than the Democrats. It sucks, but it's the truth.
You are correct about Trump's loyal base, but I'm going to repeat - the turnout for the 2018 flip of the HOR as well as what we are seeing in record numbers for Dem Primaries shows a rejection of Trump, and I have to believe it will intensify leading into November. Trump hasn't proven he can't poll beyond 40 some pct. The margins in 3 states of < 100K votes in last election can easily be flipped. He is toxic, and the electorate will respond. I will take that to the bank. As flawed as Trump was, he ran against HC. Neither Biden nor Bernie are HC...so the boogeywoman pile on is gone. We can have an esoteric discussion about strenghts / weaknesses of Bernie & Joe, but neither is Trump, and that is all that needs be said. That is enough to run Trump out of the WH.
More than turnout flipped the House in 2018. 26 retiring Republicans made the task far easier. Polls are less reliable than ever these days, so I wouldn't put too much stock in those numbers. Trump's vote count on Super Tuesday, running unopposed, show a based that's excited to pull the lever again for him.
The Dem media is gonna trumpet Joe to the sky, in an attempt to make him seem like the second coming. But lets see if his rallies sustain energy and turnout. That's where you could see the problem with HC last time. Unless they have Oprah there giving out free cars, I think Joe's stumbling and bumbling will land him in the same place this summer and fall. It won't be a rout, but I think Trump easily stays put for another four. Best part of that will be watching CNN/MSNBC chuckleheads lose their minds again.
She is smarter than trump, pence, and especially that mental midget John Kennedy r-L.A.
I would say she IS definitely smarter than whoever had this thought.
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Trump could shoot someone in the face on Park Avenue and then pour 4 million gallons of pure, undiluted Corona Virus into the Manhattan water supply and his supporters wouldn't give a rat's a$$. His minions are just more unified than the Democrats. It sucks, but it's the truth.
You are correct about Trump's loyal base, but I'm going to repeat - the turnout for the 2018 flip of the HOR as well as what we are seeing in record numbers for Dem Primaries shows a rejection of Trump, and I have to believe it will intensify leading into November. Trump hasn't proven he can't poll beyond 40 some pct. The margins in 3 states of < 100K votes in last election can easily be flipped. He is toxic, and the electorate will respond. I will take that to the bank. As flawed as Trump was, he ran against HC. Neither Biden nor Bernie are HC...so the boogeywoman pile on is gone. We can have an esoteric discussion about strenghts / weaknesses of Bernie & Joe, but neither is Trump, and that is all that needs be said. That is enough to run Trump out of the WH.
More than turnout flipped the House in 2018. 26 retiring Republicans made the task far easier. Polls are less reliable than ever these days, so I wouldn't put too much stock in those numbers. Trump's vote count on Super Tuesday, running unopposed, show a based that's excited to pull the lever again for him.
The Dem media is gonna trumpet Joe to the sky, in an attempt to make him seem like the second coming. But lets see if his rallies sustain energy and turnout. That's where you could see the problem with HC last time. Unless they have Oprah there giving out free cars, I think Joe's stumbling and bumbling will land him in the same place this summer and fall. It won't be a rout, but I think Trump easily stays put for another four. Best part of that will be watching CNN/MSNBC chuckleheads lose their minds again.
Disagree.
Do you want to up your bet?
Also would you like to get in on the "HC will enter the race bandwagon"? You can have that bet either as prez or VP?
And there's a reason Republicans retired and more will do so. You think it has anything to do with Trump at the helm? Maybe they found half a soul? Maybe they realized they represent the people and are not supposed to be blind loyalists to a guy that admires dictators and would like to be that himself? Maybe enough Trump is enough?
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Trump could shoot someone in the face on Park Avenue and then pour 4 million gallons of pure, undiluted Corona Virus into the Manhattan water supply and his supporters wouldn't give a rat's a$$. His minions are just more unified than the Democrats. It sucks, but it's the truth.
You are correct about Trump's loyal base, but I'm going to repeat - the turnout for the 2018 flip of the HOR as well as what we are seeing in record numbers for Dem Primaries shows a rejection of Trump, and I have to believe it will intensify leading into November. Trump hasn't proven he can't poll beyond 40 some pct. The margins in 3 states of < 100K votes in last election can easily be flipped. He is toxic, and the electorate will respond. I will take that to the bank. As flawed as Trump was, he ran against HC. Neither Biden nor Bernie are HC...so the boogeywoman pile on is gone. We can have an esoteric discussion about strenghts / weaknesses of Bernie & Joe, but neither is Trump, and that is all that needs be said. That is enough to run Trump out of the WH.
More than turnout flipped the House in 2018. 26 retiring Republicans made the task far easier. Polls are less reliable than ever these days, so I wouldn't put too much stock in those numbers. Trump's vote count on Super Tuesday, running unopposed, show a based that's excited to pull the lever again for him.
The Dem media is gonna trumpet Joe to the sky, in an attempt to make him seem like the second coming. But lets see if his rallies sustain energy and turnout. That's where you could see the problem with HC last time. Unless they have Oprah there giving out free cars, I think Joe's stumbling and bumbling will land him in the same place this summer and fall. It won't be a rout, but I think Trump easily stays put for another four. Best part of that will be watching CNN/MSNBC chuckleheads lose their minds again.
Disagree.
Do you want to up your bet?
Also would you like to get in on the "HC will enter the race bandwagon"? You can have that bet either as prez or VP?
And there's a reason Republicans retired and more will do so. You think it has anything to do with Trump at the helm? Maybe they found half a soul? Maybe they realized they represent the people and are not supposed to be blind loyalists to a guy that admires dictators and would like to be that himself? Maybe enough Trump is enough?
No question that a bunch of "never Trumpers" were part of that exodus. That's fine. The old establishment Republicans had (or have) to go, or the party would become irrelevant - or at least unsupportable by enough people to ever win again. Good riddance to the Bush's, McCain's, Crystol's, et al. I know they're missed by many Dems because they were spineless pushovers, agreeing to any dumb compromise, domestic or foreign. They weren't called the stupid party at the time for nothing. I hope the retirees this cycle are replaced by more aggressive defenders of the country.
HC in the race in any form would ensure a Trump victory. All the Bernie Bros would revolt and stay home. While Biden's dotage may become so evident and burdensome that he needs a savior, it won't be HC. But she's hustling a new book written with Chelsea, so maybe that'll help.
😛
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Trump could shoot someone in the face on Park Avenue and then pour 4 million gallons of pure, undiluted Corona Virus into the Manhattan water supply and his supporters wouldn't give a rat's a$$. His minions are just more unified than the Democrats. It sucks, but it's the truth.
You are correct about Trump's loyal base, but I'm going to repeat - the turnout for the 2018 flip of the HOR as well as what we are seeing in record numbers for Dem Primaries shows a rejection of Trump, and I have to believe it will intensify leading into November. Trump hasn't proven he can't poll beyond 40 some pct. The margins in 3 states of < 100K votes in last election can easily be flipped. He is toxic, and the electorate will respond. I will take that to the bank. As flawed as Trump was, he ran against HC. Neither Biden nor Bernie are HC...so the boogeywoman pile on is gone. We can have an esoteric discussion about strenghts / weaknesses of Bernie & Joe, but neither is Trump, and that is all that needs be said. That is enough to run Trump out of the WH.
More than turnout flipped the House in 2018. 26 retiring Republicans made the task far easier. Polls are less reliable than ever these days, so I wouldn't put too much stock in those numbers. Trump's vote count on Super Tuesday, running unopposed, show a based that's excited to pull the lever again for him.
The Dem media is gonna trumpet Joe to the sky, in an attempt to make him seem like the second coming. But lets see if his rallies sustain energy and turnout. That's where you could see the problem with HC last time. Unless they have Oprah there giving out free cars, I think Joe's stumbling and bumbling will land him in the same place this summer and fall. It won't be a rout, but I think Trump easily stays put for another four. Best part of that will be watching CNN/MSNBC chuckleheads lose their minds again.
Disagree.
Do you want to up your bet?
Also would you like to get in on the "HC will enter the race bandwagon"? You can have that bet either as prez or VP?
And there's a reason Republicans retired and more will do so. You think it has anything to do with Trump at the helm? Maybe they found half a soul? Maybe they realized they represent the people and are not supposed to be blind loyalists to a guy that admires dictators and would like to be that himself? Maybe enough Trump is enough?
No question that a bunch of "never Trumpers" were part of that exodus. That's fine. The old establishment Republicans had (or have) to go, or the party would become irrelevant - or at least unsupportable by enough people to ever win again. Good riddance to the Bush's, McCain's, Crystol's, et al. I know they're missed by many Dems because they were spineless pushovers, agreeing to any dumb compromise, domestic or foreign. They weren't called the stupid party at the time for nothing. I hope the retirees this cycle are replaced by more aggressive defenders of the country.
HC in the race in any form would ensure a Trump victory. All the Bernie Bros would revolt and stay home. While Biden's dotage may become so evident and burdensome that he needs a savior, it won't be HC. But she's hustling a new book written with Chelsea, so maybe that'll help.
😛
So what on earth are you looking for? You can't possibly feel that Trump and the sheep are protectors of the country if they are not protectors of the Constitution. There is plenty of evidence for that. You don't want elected officials fearful of Trump's tweets so instead they blindly support in fear of retribution. I take it that you are not referring to protectors in a sense of war? Trump has made a mockery of the inner workings of government and separation of powers. He has relied upon an AG that has mislead "the people" and taken actions to protect the president as if he is his personal attorney. Trump is a walking & talking viloator of the emoluments clause. And on and on.
You don't want people elected that will perpetuate the above, do you?
This is really not about HC, Bernie, or Biden. It's really an absolute, and that is Trump.
This is really not about HC, Bernie, or Biden. It's really an absolute, and that is Trump.
I really wish the name HRC would disappear from this forum forever. She's not in the 2020 equation. Unless COVID19 wipes out the entire dem party save HRC, she's DOA.
The 2016 election song has new lyrics. In 2016, the chant was Anyone But HRC. In 2020, the chant is Anyone But Trump. It's an easy concept to grasp. Sing along.
John McCain was a good man 50 years ago. When he died he was as much a politician as anyone. He wouldn't even retire when he was incapable of doing his job because he wanted a state funeral.
John McCain was a good man 50 years ago. When he died he was as much a politician as anyone. He wouldn't even retire when he was incapable of doing his job because he wanted a state funeral.
You like trump , denigrate a good man's memory. you are a disgrace.
He certainly didn't deserve to be treated the way he was by a sitting President who was a draft dodger. McCain a captured military vet; Trump a puppet for Putin. I guess that's parity?
"No question that a bunch of "never Trumpers" were part of that exodus. That's fine. The old establishment Republicans had (or have) to go, or the party would become irrelevant - or at least unsupportable by enough people to ever win again. Good riddance to the Bush's, McCain's, Crystol's, et al. I know they're missed by many Dems because they were spineless pushovers, agreeing to any dumb compromise, domestic or foreign. They weren't called the stupid party at the time for nothing. I hope the retirees this cycle are replaced by more aggressive defenders of the country."
Obama entered office with Dems controlling 62 of 99 state legislative chambers. By January 2015 R's had 68. In 2009 D's had 31 governorships, by 2016 that was down to 17. In 2010 the R's took 63 seats in the midterm. Biggest drubbing in 72 years! Obama was a genius at getting Obama elected. The Democratic party? Not so much. Under Richie Rich the stubby fingered, draft dodging, orange tub of lard, the R's started 2017 with 241 House members and after the midterms are down to 199. Retirement announcements seem to come rather often. Orange county is now blue. Suburbs around the country are going blue. How in the hell "the old establishment" was making the party "irrelevant" by 2016 is beyond my comprehension. As a party they were at their highest level in almost 100 years! I think there is a good chance both men will be remembered as good for themselves and not so good for their respective parties. Since Trump has only been a Republican for 10 minutes the analogy only goes so far.
How in the hell "the old establishment" was making the party "irrelevant" by 2016 is beyond my comprehension.
2008 & 2012 were the last of the old R's establishment campaigns. During much of Obama's term, the transformation began with the Tea Party, which gave energy to changes that the establishment R's didn't particularly want, but couldn't stop. As you mention, it was Obama who lost about 1,000 local/state/federal seats round the country, but the Bush's, Romeny's, McCain's had little to do with that. It was grass roots conservatives, Tea Partiers, etc who were fed up and propelled it. The 2016 campaign proved that the old style establishment R's had become irrelevant, and many then became never-Trumpers, ignoring or disliking the changing dynamic of the party. The only disrespect I have for those individuals not seeing and listening to the voters, sometimes blocking instead of helping the more aggressive advancement of conservative and libertarian goals that were being asked for.
Are you folks forgetting the midterms? What was the message and results? Trump can't get to 50% approval. Record number of turnouts in some states on Super Tuesday. A country fed up up with Trump. A stock market in free fall which Trump cares about more than C Virus with grossly misleading statements and "hunches". What does all of this look like for Trump in November?
Trump could shoot someone in the face on Park Avenue and then pour 4 million gallons of pure, undiluted Corona Virus into the Manhattan water supply and his supporters wouldn't give a rat's a$$. His minions are just more unified than the Democrats. It sucks, but it's the truth.
You are correct about Trump's loyal base, but I'm going to repeat - the turnout for the 2018 flip of the HOR as well as what we are seeing in record numbers for Dem Primaries shows a rejection of Trump, and I have to believe it will intensify leading into November. Trump hasn't proven he can't poll beyond 40 some pct. The margins in 3 states of < 100K votes in last election can easily be flipped. He is toxic, and the electorate will respond. I will take that to the bank. As flawed as Trump was, he ran against HC. Neither Biden nor Bernie are HC...so the boogeywoman pile on is gone. We can have an esoteric discussion about strenghts / weaknesses of Bernie & Joe, but neither is Trump, and that is all that needs be said. That is enough to run Trump out of the WH.
More than turnout flipped the House in 2018. 26 retiring Republicans made the task far easier. Polls are less reliable than ever these days, so I wouldn't put too much stock in those numbers. Trump's vote count on Super Tuesday, running unopposed, show a based that's excited to pull the lever again for him.
The Dem media is gonna trumpet Joe to the sky, in an attempt to make him seem like the second coming. But lets see if his rallies sustain energy and turnout. That's where you could see the problem with HC last time. Unless they have Oprah there giving out free cars, I think Joe's stumbling and bumbling will land him in the same place this summer and fall. It won't be a rout, but I think Trump easily stays put for another four. Best part of that will be watching CNN/MSNBC chuckleheads lose their minds again.
Disagree.
Do you want to up your bet?
Also would you like to get in on the "HC will enter the race bandwagon"? You can have that bet either as prez or VP?
And there's a reason Republicans retired and more will do so. You think it has anything to do with Trump at the helm? Maybe they found half a soul? Maybe they realized they represent the people and are not supposed to be blind loyalists to a guy that admires dictators and would like to be that himself? Maybe enough Trump is enough?
No question that a bunch of "never Trumpers" were part of that exodus. That's fine. The old establishment Republicans had (or have) to go, or the party would become irrelevant - or at least unsupportable by enough people to ever win again. Good riddance to the Bush's, McCain's, Crystol's, et al. I know they're missed by many Dems because they were spineless pushovers, agreeing to any dumb compromise, domestic or foreign. They weren't called the stupid party at the time for nothing. I hope the retirees this cycle are replaced by more aggressive defenders of the country.
HC in the race in any form would ensure a Trump victory. All the Bernie Bros would revolt and stay home. While Biden's dotage may become so evident and burdensome that he needs a savior, it won't be HC. But she's hustling a new book written with Chelsea, so maybe that'll help.
😛
So what on earth are you looking for? You can't possibly feel that Trump and the sheep are protectors of the country if they are not protectors of the Constitution. There is plenty of evidence for that. You don't want elected officials fearful of Trump's tweets so instead they blindly support in fear of retribution. I take it that you are not referring to protectors in a sense of war? Trump has made a mockery of the inner workings of government and separation of powers. He has relied upon an AG that has mislead "the people" and taken actions to protect the president as if he is his personal attorney. Trump is a walking & talking viloator of the emoluments clause. And on and on.
You don't want people elected that will perpetuate the above, do you?
This is really not about HC, Bernie, or Biden. It's really an absolute, and that is Trump.
I wrote a long, point-by-point response to your comments, but then deleted the whole thing.
Our political differences are so far apart that we judge these issues vastly different. That's ok, though I bet that over a beer we'd find more in common. Maybe. 
Trump has huge flaws, and so did Obama, and Bush before him, and Clinton before that (did you see Bill's latest rationalization of the Lewinsky affair?). Right now, for all his many flaws, when I compare the issues I care about vs what the Left and progressive Dems say they want, I'm happier with Trump as the President. Sure I could envision it being way better. But chances are that we'd be even further apart then.
Its been like this ever since Washington, when Jefferson and Hamilton feuded in his cabinet over the direction of the county. I don't suspect it will ever change until the country is no more.
[Edited on 3/7/2020 by Fujirich]
It was grass roots conservatives, Tea Partiers, etc who were fed up and propelled it. The 2016 campaign proved that the old style establishment R's had become irrelevant, and many then became never-Trumpers, ignoring or disliking the changing dynamic of the party. The only disrespect I have for those individuals not seeing and listening to the voters, sometimes blocking instead of helping the more aggressive advancement of conservative and libertarian goals that were being asked for.
All noble and understandable points of view that will forever be dead because of the horrendous way in which you all went about it. To associate yourselves with a terrible person, to become hostiles and extremists, was a disasterous decision if a movement was the ultimate goal. Do you really believe any momement, with a Trump tag attached to it, will last very long as the boomers die off and millennials starting familes? C'mon man! In a few years, this will all be seen as an emabarrassing and dangerous tantrum thrown by grass roots conservative tea partiers who were ultimatley a bunch of lost souls.
They formed the basis of dramatic change of a major political party. If that's a group of lost souls, what does it take to be relevant? If the Dems become far more socialist and "progressive" (a mis-use of language if there ever was one), will we be calling the AOC's, Tlaib's, Omar's, et al "lost souls"? It works both ways.
The "Trump tag" as you put it seems to have only negative implications for you, which is fine and understandable. The fact that he can pitch a tent anywhere in the country and instantly draw 20k, 30k, or more tells you that many of your fellow countrymen and women see it far differently. Disrespecting them via name calling and harsh characterizations is as damaging as most anything coming out of Washington.
