Oh are you referring to all of the white people walking around the former Capital of the Confederacy with sniper rifles on the day we celebrate MLK, Jr, a black leader who was killed by a racist with a sniper rifle? Yeah, I agree, they are not helping solve anything.
What about all the black people at the Lobby Day annual event? You do remember this is held yearly?
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/black-gun-rights-activist-virginia- rallyClick on the video and see what a black man has to say.
Do you not understand the absurdity of expecting people to give credence to a illegitimate website, labeled as an opinion piece? Dude, I’m trying to help you - read up on journalism and how to identify journalistic integrity. It’s no wonder you’re mixed up. Lastly, that article showed ONE black person, LOL, and you wrote “....all the black people”. I’m not mocking your position - I’m mocking your choice of evidence.
You say that wasn't a black man talking, giving his views on the gun laws proposed by Virginia Democrats?
You want to deny him his civil rights to free speech by ignoring his message.
How RACIST can you be?
It’s a screwy world alright
Might be a good reason to be a little more selective in our purchase application process, and maybe make the process a bit more challenging. how can we acknowledge that it’s a screwy world with undetected screwy people everywhere, and throw up our hands? there’s no logical reason to oppose ways to make it tougher. the only thing getting in the way of making it tougher is the right’s sensitivity to their manhood. their concern for effectiveness is a complete load of b.s.
I'm reminded of the old joke: "Confusion say, man who talks of other mens manhood, often has problems with his own."
a father decided to play-wrestle with his 4 year old son
While in possession of a loaded gun
Where are peoples’ brains anywayGun accidentally fell out of his pocket, discharged - and his son is in critical condition after being shot in the head -
Sadly, the 4 year old passed away
The father was also injured but will recover
By all online accounts a respected and well liked family, & just a terrible tragedy
The torment the poor father will have to endure, is unimaginable
While obviously a preventable tragedy, there’s no being safe enough around guns no matter what
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Sadly, the 4 year old passed away
there’s no being safe enough around guns no matter what
yup. a dead 4-year old boy was killed by his father because in this country, you don't need to be educated on a firearm if you want to buy one....you only have to have a clean record. this is what happens. so, more and more 4-year olds will be continue to be shot by their uneducated idiots fathers. price of freedom though, right? if only there was a system in place to teach these people in advance, then that 4-year old little boy would probably be alive today.
We've suggested it before. Mandatory firearms education in schools. Safety classes early, marksmanship at later grades.
For those who didn't get it earlier, a three week course in safety, education (laws and responsibility), and marksmanship. All could be paid for by taxes on sales of candy, soda, and smokes.
We've suggested it before. Mandatory firearms education in schools. Safety classes early, marksmanship at later grades.
For those who didn't get it earlier, a three week course in safety, education (laws and responsibility), and marksmanship. All could be paid for by taxes on sales of candy, soda, and smokes.
It’s worth serious consideration if not a try - there would be opposition b/c of higher taxes, the newness of it etc
But it’s a new angle that is better than what we’ve had
In Kentucky, 4 instance, the state senate voted 34-1 to send to the House, legislation requiring that police officers be armed when assigned to schools
adding more firearms to a problem is ineffective - but it could prove to be otherwise there, if the legislation is voted through & enacted
Nope those high school daze aren’t what they used to be
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We've suggested it before. Mandatory firearms education in schools. Safety classes early, marksmanship at later grades.
“We”, lol.
Yes, WE. It's been proposed as legislation to over 30 states.
How about that.
Now, quit wasting my time with snarky comments.
It’s worth serious consideration if not a try - there would be opposition b/c of higher taxes, the newness of it etc
But it’s a new angle that is better than what we’ve hady’all need to work on your trolling better. you need to say something poignant and thoughtful to get people riled up. looking like stooges doesn’t help your case.
Yes, we’ll add a new class to all schools, extend school hours, hire hundreds of thousands of shooting instructors....each school will of course need massive insurance policies, even more massive health plans for accidents, new legal teams for the lawsuits.....oh yeah, and forget the freedom of the people. Screw freedom! Don’t want your kid to shoot guns at school? TOUGH! “Better than what we’ve had”??? Wow.
nowadays the right side seems to love those fascist foreign dictator type societies.
You don't like it because it really would be a "common sense" gun law very much unlike your total confiscation laws would be.
I am aware of gun classes as elective in Illinois high schools, being considered elsewhere. I haven't seen anything about "mandatory" firearm training. Could use a link or two on that if not too much trouble thx.
Not a huge fan of the word "mandatory", to me that means move forward with extreme caution.
So far only 12 states have the program implemented.
Here's a few articles.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/iowa-middle-schools-to-begin-gun-safety-program
https://redoubtnews.com/2018/01/firearms-safety-schools/
While not a mandatory class state wide:
Hit send before I finished.
https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/kansas-bill-would-require-schools-offering-gun-safety-use-nra/article_5c20b77a-19cb-11e8-8f31-97bce05f46f8.html
Not mandatory state wide, but class is mandatory where taught.
It’s worth serious consideration if not a try - there would be opposition b/c of higher taxes, the newness of it etc
But it’s a new angle that is better than what we’ve hady’all need to work on your trolling better. you need to say something poignant and thoughtful to get people riled up. looking like stooges doesn’t help your case.
Yes, we’ll add a new class to all schools, extend school hours, hire hundreds of thousands of shooting instructors....each school will of course need massive insurance policies, even more massive health plans for accidents, new legal teams for the lawsuits.....oh yeah, and forget the freedom of the people. Screw freedom! Don’t want your kid to shoot guns at school? TOUGH! “Better than what we’ve had”??? Wow.
nowadays the right side seems to love those fascist foreign dictator type societies.
Grade school-Eddie Eagle, free, videos and material. Middle school-marksmanship and hunter safety taught by local LEOs and DNR at the police range. Generally free except for ammo., which is cheap since they use BB guns. High school-Advanced marksmanship, pistol and rifle clubs, skeet and trap shooting.
Only costs ammo since the kids can't own a firearm.
"Screw freedom!" That's your expertise since you want to disarm everyone.
"Screw freedom!" That's your expertise since you want to disarm everyone.
I’m only for an effective vetting system, but if you was to sound like someone in over your head, because you can’t figure out a response, please go right ahead.
"Effective"...keyword. Please elaborate and while you're at it, include your plan to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.
"Effective"...keyword. Please elaborate and while you're at it, include your plan to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.
who said anything about the black market? you have got to stop with the straw arguments. I’m only interested in ways of preventing undiagnosed deranged psychos from purchasing.
I mentioned it and I will continue to mention it because it is THE problem in the gun issue ...
I’m only interested in ways of preventing undiagnosed deranged psychos from purchasing.
And you truly believe that deranged individuals just stroll down to the nearest gun shop to purchase?
Dude
"Effective"...keyword. Please elaborate and while you're at it, include your plan to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals.
who said anything about the black market? you have got to stop with the straw arguments. I’m only interested in ways of preventing undiagnosed deranged psychos from purchasing.
If I'm not mistaken, you mentioned it in several threads.
Your straw argument about the "undiagnosed deranged psychos" has lost any value in the discussion. We've asked several times who they are, and you can't tell us.
Your figures of "millions" are made up since you can't give any evidence of those numbers.
Your constant refrain of "common sense gun laws" is nothing but a mantra for the anti-gunners, the ones who wish to disarm the populace slowly and deceitful by using the old, tired phrase "well, you compromised here, why can't you compromise now".
Think of those who you would disarm. What protection would they have against those who would do violence to them or their families? Think of the children that would live in fear, mothers who pull their children off playgrounds and back from friends when it gets dark, dads who feel helpless that they can't protect their loved ones, whole areas of towns that lock down before dark because they can't defend themselves against the evil that awaits outside, arm the populace and make those who would do evil afraid to go out do harm.
Your constant refusal to answer when asked, repeatedly posting the same thing, always ridiculing those who don't fall in line with your narrative, and dismissing anything that can actually help with the reduction of violence has given me the feeling, and opinion, that you are either a shill for the anti-gunners, or a troll.
Which one are you, if you are, and why do you continue to do the above things?
Begin edit: As far as a plan to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, we've asked you the same question, that is answered with a snarky response, or by the internet version of crickets. We've answered yours, now answer ours.
So again, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS?
We're patient, and can wait a while for an answer.
[Edited on 1/29/2020 by Jerry]
I mentioned it and I will continue to mention it because it is THE problem in the gun issue ...
But I thought you said it was a mental health issue? Yet another straw argument from the scarecrow.
Anyone who deems it OK and sane to acquire a weapon and turn it loose on innocent people has a Mental Health issue, period. Make all the new laws you want, this will do absolutely nothing to stop people from gaining access to guns illegally.
What you are saying is criminals are going to have guns no matter what. I agree.
Exactly. So, how do we end the "Black Market"? My thoughts?...You have to make the penalty for owning an unregistered weapon very severe. Want a "New Law"....
Start with that.
Want a "New Law"....
Nope, dont want new laws, not in my state anyway. I cant speak for other states - but the laws in places I lived, AZ, Pacific NW are fine.
Look at that, we agree!
They’ve denied bail for the policeman who shot & killed a handcuffed suspect as the suspect sat in the police car, citing the cop as a danger to the community (not Baltimore but Temple Hills MD) - not directly pertinent to the thread, but a criminal has been taken off the streets, so the system works - this is plain-out murder
What you are saying is criminals are going to have guns no matter what. I agree.
Exactly. So, how do we end the "Black Market"? My thoughts?...You have to make the penalty for owning an unregistered weapon very severe. Want a "New Law"....
Start with that.
No, let's not.
Canada tried that, didn't work, costly and inefficient.
The US Supreme Court says that criminals do not have to get licenses or register their weapons, as that would be "self incrimination" and against the 5th Amendment.
Germany did that in 1935. A few years later laws were introduced to ban Jews and others from owning firearms. Guess how they knew where to go?
Russia, same thing.
There are thousands of gun laws on the books. Some are good ones. Unfortunately politicians keep passing laws already on the books.
