Article doesn’t specify - one was “in the northeastern section of the city,” 2 others in “northwest Baltimore & northeast Baltimore........” etc

Thanks Stephen.

It has nothing to do with political affiliation/agendas, left/right leanings or black on black violence - no one ever said anything about that until you did, not myself, Brer or the article

Would love to visit the Babe Ruth Birthplace & Museum - the Bambino was born in Baltimore - would have to think twice tho - who wouldn’t

hopefully the museum doesn’t suffer from low patronage b/c of What The Article Says, Is rampant violence in Baltimore - city officials cited statistics, not politics or a racial divide, in making this claim in the article

Best wishes, good day to all

[Edited on 1/14/2020 by Stephen]

I’m quoting a newspaper article about the latest in ongoing violence in Baltimore - it says nothing about race, that’s just your assumption of what it’s about

I wasn’t referring to the author of the article, and I wouldn’t think it did mention race. I’m referring to the ongoing dishonest and deceitful trend among right wing outlets and their audience to immediately point towards inner-city gang violence in prominently black cities, as a way to dismiss, undermine, and criticize Democratic ideas on gun control. It’s a sleazy and cowardly way of expressing the opinion that Democratic laws are to blame for violence in poor black communities.

If that doesn’t describe you, then it was probably a bad idea to revive a thread that is trying to make that exact trash point.

Skydog, I don't get where you think this is going on. Could you perhaps quote where you see this happening?

Where exactly is this

[Edited on 1/15/2020 by Jerry]

no one ever said anything about that until you did

Exactly. Now you get it. It's my observation of a cowardly act that has been going on for years among the right wing. If that's not what you were doing, then fine, but this thread is an exact example of it.

[Edited on 1/14/2020 by Skydog32103]

No I Don’t Get It
I’d ask what “cowardly act” you could possibly be referring to, but your reply would make no sense nor relate to the topic

Jerry I wouldn’t bother following up on whatever Skydog03210 is talking about - it’s all right wing this, left wing that - he called me trash b/c of newspaper info I posted about Baltimore - it’s nothing

Reverting back to topic, one student dead, two arrested in latest high school shooting, this one in the Houston area

no one ever said anything about that until you did

Exactly. Now you get it. It's my observation of a cowardly act that has been going on for years among the right wing. If that's not what you were doing, then fine, but this thread is an exact example of it.

[Edited on 1/14/2020 by Skydog32103]

No I Don’t Get It
I’d ask what “cowardly act” you could possibly be referring to, but your reply would make no sense nor relate to the topic

Jerry I wouldn’t bother following up on whatever Skydog03210 is talking about - it’s all right wing this, left wing that - he called me trash b/c of newspaper info I posted about Baltimore - it’s nothing

Actually, I think we could let the thread die and just ignore him.

this one in the Houston area

Keep it up, chump. I see you.

I remember a poster that acted, and posted a lot like you do now. Possibly you could be him, or just copying his style, just remember that he was banned when he went too far over the line of decency.

Thank you I think?

I think you are well aware that the right always brought up gun violence in Chicago quite a bit whenever Democrats wanted to propose ideas to stop suburban mass shootings. It was everywhere in the media and on this very site. Now it's Baltimore because Cummings was from there. I think it's a cheap way to say that Democratic leaders, like Cummings, are bad at stopping gun violence, and therefore should be dismissed when trying to propose logical common sense gun laws.

Don't mind me, I'm just watching from afar.

You are welcome.
Chicago, New York, and other Democratic held towns were often brought up since the "logical common sense gun laws" proposed were often already in effect in those towns. Hopefully it was to show that the proposed legislation didn't work there, so why did anyone think it would work elsewhere.
One of the "logical common sense gun laws" that are being proposed by some Democrat candidates is to outlaw bump stocks? Did you know that bump stocks are already illegal? Some are proposing laws to ban those convicted of domestic violence from purchasing firearms? Did you know that this is already a Federal Law?
Some propose to ban the sale of automatic weapons. That already, with conditions, falls under the National Firearms Act.
Democrats continuously propose laws that are already on the books. Many Democrats show no knowledge on what they are proposing legislation on.
It seems that they also don't realize that criminals, by the definition of the word, don't follow laws.
Take a look at this and ask yourself if you would trust legislation by people who show they don't know what they are talking about, by talking about it.
ie "heat seeking bullets" "30 caliber clip that fire 30 bullets in half a second", "its legal to hunt humans"?? "perfectly functioning weapons that fire with no ammo"

https://twitter.com/ARmastrangelo/status/968165387694235648

Click on the center of the video to hear audio.

Look at what is being called "logical common sense gun laws", compare it to what is already on the books and you will see what I'm posting about.

I’m quoting a newspaper article about the latest in ongoing violence in Baltimore - it says nothing about race, that’s just your assumption of what it’s about

I wasn’t referring to the author of the article, and I wouldn’t think it did mention race. I’m referring to the ongoing dishonest and deceitful trend among right wing outlets and their audience to immediately point towards inner-city gang violence in prominently black cities, as a way to dismiss, undermine, and criticize Democratic ideas on gun control. It’s a sleazy and cowardly way of expressing the opinion that Democratic laws are to blame for violence in poor black communities.

If that doesn’t describe you, then it was probably a bad idea to revive a thread that is trying to make that exact trash point.

Skydog, I don't get where you think this is going on. Could you perhaps quote where you see this happening?

Where exactly is this

LOL. This response belongs in the Purposefully Obtuse Hall of Fame.

I think you are well aware that the right always brought up gun violence in Chicago quite a bit whenever Democrats wanted to propose ideas to stop suburban mass shootings. It was everywhere in the media and on this very site. Now it's Baltimore because Cummings was from there. I think it's a cheap way to say that Democratic leaders, like Cummings, are bad at stopping gun violence, and therefore should be dismissed when trying to propose logical common sense gun laws..

I think it's fair to ask "Why are these cities at the forefront of this issue"?...Why are not Bozeman, Mt., Portland Maine & Des Moines IA, included in this discussion?... This is a reality that the left does not want to face.

I think it's fair to ask "Why are these cities at the forefront of this issue"?...Why are not Bozeman, Mt., Portland Maine & Des Moines IA, included in this discussion?

How about telling us your answer first. Then we will share ours. Instead of your constant suggestive questions, just let it out man.

Because my answer is straightforward and is in direct conflict with what the left deems "PC"...

And your response will be 100% predictable and will include "labels"

You know and I know it. Why the dance?

Because my answer is straightforward . . .

Ok, so you are not going to offer your straightforward answer. Why are you expecting answers from others on a question you won't answer?

Looks a discussion D.O.A. to me.

Economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities.

This is the result.

Economically depressed cities where education, career and family are not priorities.

Why the dance? You mean black areas.

No. You mean Black areas. I stated clearly above where I thought the issue was. YOU brought color to this.

Exactly the response I anticipated. Your assumption and yours alone.

Just looked like you needed some help to be straightforward and stop dancing.

No "help" needed. You are describing a "Truth" as the left sees it and can therefore label it. It must be racist!

Just as I predicted.

The implication was quite clear, as such things usually are.

The implication was quite clear, as such things usually are.

To you and your narrative.... I mean your vision is the only one, right? I have always and will continue to believe in the positives behind the value of Education, Career and Family.

Label that anyway you please.

Not sure what is going on down there, but it isn't good.

The implication was quite clear, as such things usually are.

To you and your narrative.... I mean your vision is the only one, right? I have always and will continue to believe in the positives behind the value of Education, Career and Family.

Label that anyway you please.

I don’t have a narrative. I’m reading what you typed.

Of course we see the usual smug “You just don’t like that I have a different opinion” nonsense that you somehow continually believe that no one sees through.

You’ve been posting for years how little you think of immigrants and the poor. “Education, career and family” plays off just about every single implied racist statement going back fifty years or more, which everyone knows, including you. You know it or you wouldn’t have tried to throw it back at someone calling you out on it.

As a matter of fact, you typed “Education, career and family” on purpose to see what response you’d get.

“It’s not my fault if I imply racist statements and you all hear it as racist. I just have a different opinion and you don’t like it.” Isn’t that about right?

What you never seem to understand is that no one really cares if you have an opinion or not. It’s yours. You have every right to it. Have it. Post it. Say it. Live it. Be it. Own it.

Now, someone disagreeing with it doesn’t mean that disagreement comes from the point that you merely have a differing opinion and that somehow you have convinced yourself that’s the only reason anyone would dare disagree with you in the first place.

Your opinion is yours and you have every right to it. Me thinking your opinion is awful harms you in no way, no matter how much you wish it to be so.

I think it's fair to ask "Why are these cities at the forefront of this issue"?...Why are not Bozeman, Mt., Portland Maine & Des Moines IA, included in this discussion?... This is a reality that the left does not want to face.

Baltimore and Chicago are NOT at the forefront of mass shootings. The onus is on you to explain why you make that connection.

The confusion might lie in the definitions
Baltimore was at the forefront last year with 348 homicides, the most violent year ever on a per capita basis

In terms of mass shootings, true, Baltimore may not be - unsure about Chicago - completely lost about the “left” & “right”
Are homicides & mass shootings one & the same - if so, could that explain statistical info getting tangled up/misinterpreted etc

Probably missing something, but IMO it’s a different conversation, Skydog32103 - never said gun violence was restricted just to black communities in inner cities - was just pointing out the horrific crime rate in Baltimore - didn’t have the other atrocities you mentioned in mind when doing so - I don’t watch Fox News

Brad Marchand is left wing, David Pastrnak right wing - that’s the extent of my knowledge about that - other than one means liberal, the other conservative - overall, am not the brightest crayon in the box on this end of things

Most recently, “Federal officials have charged another Baltimore detective with corruption in a rogue unit....allegedly planted a BB gun on a suspect, then lied to a federal grand jury about it”

This kind of stuff is what I decry in mentioning Baltimore - all the best, hope that clarifies things

[Edited on 1/17/2020 by Stephen]

The part about the Democratic leadership I missed, but you make a valid point - I have kinda beaten into the ground, a topic that had little to do with the thread - got me cranky reading about how bad it was & for some reason posted it here, the lone connection being to Jerry’s original prediction
Not keen to predict the next school shooting, it’ll come soon enough

[Edited on 1/17/2020 by Stephen]

A story out of Madison Wisc. demonstrates the difficulty of getting a handle on gun violence in schools
In this case, the system worked - for the most part
It’s an informative thought-provoking read describing the whole process, especially the purchase of the gun - headline,
Man Sentenced For Buying ‘New School Shooter Gun’ For Boy

Hesitated to post this......worth looking up IMHO

[Edited on 1/17/2020 by Stephen]

Drive By Truckers weigh in.....

Hey Skydog32103, no comment on my reply, or the video?

Skydog, since you are a proponent of mental screening, I thought you would find this interesting.

With people pushing for mental health screening, I found a website that offers it FOR FREE. If anyone wishes to take it, do the following.
Go to the website, click on "Get A Free Screening Here" and follow the prompts. Real easy. If you find you can't pass it, please report yourself to the local authorities for your "this dummy can't even pass an on line test" badge.

https://walkthetalkamerica.org/love/

Good morning folks - Skydog03210, take a look at that vid - it’s very effective - very well done - ups to the DBT, Thoughts & Prayers speaks for all of us IMHO

This one where you asked about why Chicago and Baltimore keep coming up in the "guncontrol" narrative.

Thank you I think?

I think you are well aware that the right always brought up gun violence in Chicago quite a bit whenever Democrats wanted to propose ideas to stop suburban mass shootings. It was everywhere in the media and on this very site. Now it's Baltimore because Cummings was from there. I think it's a cheap way to say that Democratic leaders, like Cummings, are bad at stopping gun violence, and therefore should be dismissed when trying to propose logical common sense gun laws.

Don't mind me, I'm just watching from afar.

You are welcome.
Chicago, New York, and other Democratic held towns were often brought up since the "logical common sense gun laws" proposed were often already in effect in those towns. Hopefully it was to show that the proposed legislation didn't work there, so why did anyone think it would work elsewhere.
One of the "logical common sense gun laws" that are being proposed by some Democrat candidates is to outlaw bump stocks? Did you know that bump stocks are already illegal? Some are proposing laws to ban those convicted of domestic violence from purchasing firearms? Did you know that this is already a Federal Law?
Some propose to ban the sale of automatic weapons. That already, with conditions, falls under the National Firearms Act.
Democrats continuously propose laws that are already on the books. Many Democrats show no knowledge on what they are proposing legislation on.
It seems that they also don't realize that criminals, by the definition of the word, don't follow laws.
Take a look at this and ask yourself if you would trust legislation by people who show they don't know what they are talking about, by talking about it.
ie "heat seeking bullets" "30 caliber clip that fire 30 bullets in half a second", "its legal to hunt humans"?? "perfectly functioning weapons that fire with no ammo"

https://twitter.com/ARmastrangelo/status/968165387694235648

Click on the center of the video to hear audio.

Look at what is being called "logical common sense gun laws", compare it to what is already on the books and you will see what I'm posting about.

It seems illogical to me to link inner-city street gang violence with suburban mass shootings.

"Because gangs circumvent laws and purchase guns on the black market, then we shouldn't listen to Democrats who want to devise a way to help prevent deranged fools from purchasing firearms. If Democrats can't stop the black market, then their ideas for stopping deranged shooters won't work either." I don't have any respect for this opinion, not because it's critical of Democrats, but because it shows a lack of intelligence, in my humble opinion.

To have the only requirement be a clean criminal record, to me shows a complete disrespect towards the object.

Skydog, where did the quote come from?

And, to follow your logic, you shouldn't be able to own a vehicle if you have a good driving record.

Did anybody take the mental health test?

And, to follow your logic, you shouldn't be able to own a vehicle if you have a good driving record.

One reason I don't have an interest in talking to you about guns is that you don't see the problem with comparing guns to other objects. Do it all you want, but please stop wasting my time.

Did anybody take the mental health test?

I wish they had, Jerry. I wish they had.

[Edited on 1/19/2020 by Skydog32103]

Still didn't answer my question since you again skirt the subject and misread what was written.

1) Did you read the post?
2) Did you watch the video?
3) Did you take the test?

Simple questions. A yes or no would be sufficient.

"If Democrats can't stop the black market, then their ideas for stopping deranged shooters won't work either."

As long as Criminals and people with any type of Mental Health issue can circumvent existing laws by purchasing guns on the Black Market, ANY attempt at MORE laws is futile.

How many more times are we willing to hear "How in the Hell did this idiot acquire a gun"?

New methods have to be adopted, the paradigm must change. We can not as a society continue to place yet another band-aid on a wound requiring an amputation and walk around saying, "Well, at least we are doing something"

Asinine.