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OriginalGoober
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Does anyone here think this thing is not over?

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

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Posted : October 12, 2016 4:26 pm
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No I think the Trump implosion is just getting started. Pass the popcorn.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 4:36 pm
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Does anyone here think this thing is not over?

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

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Four tries to get nine words right?


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 4:37 pm
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Does anyone here think this thing is not over?

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

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The polls have a pretty good track record.

1 line, 3 edits. Might be a record Grin


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 4:37 pm
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Does anyone here think this thing is not over?

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

Four tries to get nine words right?

It's my fault. I've been coming down a little hard on him lately for spelling and grammatical errors and he wanted to make sure everything was copacetic (look it up, Goober) this time.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 4:50 pm
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Hillary will probably win but there's a movement underway, the whole Trump phenomenon should prove that to any doubters. Movements take time, but this movement will continue to grow. Continued poor stewardship will make sure of it.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 4:54 pm
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Movements take time, but this movement will continue to grow.

Miralax will help speed it up.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 4:59 pm
alloak41
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Movements take time, but this movement will continue to grow.

Miralax will help speed it up.

Hillary Rodham Lincoln won't hurt.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 5:01 pm
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I think the liberal movement is still way ahead in the race, and much much larger.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 5:09 pm
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I think the liberal movement is still way ahead in the race, and much much larger.

How much larger can the National Debt go before it starts to become a problem? In your opinion.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 5:18 pm
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Does anyone here think this thing is not over?

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

[Edited on 10/13/2016 by OriginalGoober]

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You are correct. It will be over November 8. Tune in to FOX that night to watch the analysts attempt to figure how Trump lost.

Guess we'll have to Make America Great Again w/out Trump. It was a good ride, Donald. Thanks for the laughs.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 5:26 pm
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I think the liberal movement is still way ahead in the race, and much much larger.

How much larger can the National Debt go before it starts to become a problem? In your opinion.

Word is to help reduce the debt, you'll be paying a per post tax on the band's web site. You know how those Dems love taxes.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 5:29 pm
alloak41
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I think the liberal movement is still way ahead in the race, and much much larger.

How much larger can the National Debt go before it starts to become a problem? In your opinion.

Word is to help reduce the debt, you'll be paying a per post tax on the band's web site. You know how those Dems love taxes.

So is $70 Trillion, $90 Trillion do-able? Can interest rates stay at zero for the next four years or more?


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 5:39 pm
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Hillary will probably win but there's a movement underway, the whole Trump phenomenon should prove that to any doubters. Movements take time, but this movement will continue to grow. Continued poor stewardship will make sure of it.

You forget that there is also a huge Sanders movement moving the opposite way and it encompasses the millennials and is larger in size to Trumps movement. I think the Sanders crowd will be able to unite with the Dem establishment people a lot easier than the Trump crowd will be able to unite the Republican establishment which Trump is destroying day by day. You are just lucky that Clinton got the nod instead of Bernie or the baggage less Bernie would have wiped Trumps _ss and you would have had an admitted socialist as POTUS. So when you talk about movements don't forget about the one on the other side which right now is larger and whose demographics are more likely to grow.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 8:51 pm
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I think the liberal movement is still way ahead in the race, and much much larger.

How much larger can the National Debt go before it starts to become a problem? In your opinion.

Word is to help reduce the debt, you'll be paying a per post tax on the band's web site. You know how those Dems love taxes.

So is $70 Trillion, $90 Trillion do-able? Can interest rates stay at zero for the next four years or more?

trump says big tax cuts for EVERYONE! Grin how will this help lower the national debt?

Well, not everyone. Taxes on the middle class would go up. Everybody else would get a tax break and the national debt will balloon at a rate never seen before.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 11:10 pm
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I'm not sure I believe the polls either. I have a real hard time believing it's as close as the polls indicate. I predict a landslide victory for Clinton.


 
Posted : October 12, 2016 11:14 pm
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If I follow the money I think the polls are rigged to maintain electorate interest. Nobody makes more money off an election than the corporate media. It seems like they have been covering this election since 2012.

I also don't see how Donald can be this close after alienating so many Republicans.

But if Putin hacks the voting machines we could see a Trump landslide.


 
Posted : October 13, 2016 4:00 am
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How much larger can the National Debt go before it starts to become a problem? In your opinion.

I don't know anything about economics on that level, but I can tell you that I would not try to assign blame to a party or a person. That's the first step to going in the wrong direction. There's no way it's that simple.


 
Posted : October 13, 2016 4:44 am
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I think the liberal movement is still way ahead in the race, and much much larger.

How much larger can the National Debt go before it starts to become a problem? In your opinion.

Word is to help reduce the debt, you'll be paying a per post tax on the band's web site. You know how those Dems love taxes.

So is $70 Trillion, $90 Trillion do-able? Can interest rates stay at zero for the next four years or more?

trump says big tax cuts for EVERYONE! Grin how will this help lower the national debt?

Tax cuts for businesses means they can make more money here in America than sending jobs overseas. Since they will have jobs here, people here can get jobs and go to work. People going to work can pay taxes, (some of that will be used towards the debt). Since they are working, they will have money to spend in local businesses further stimulating the economy putting more people to work. Tax cuts and incentives for US businesses to stay here will help our economy.

NAFTA sent jobs overseas. Open borders let illegals in who take jobs that legal citizens could have. We need that wall. If illegals are not stealing jobs, that means there are more jobs already here for Americans who want to work.

Well that's some of it.


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 7:59 am
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I'm not sure I believe the polls either. I have a real hard time believing it's as close as the polls indicate. I predict a landslide victory for Clinton.

You might be right, but it also depends on who is counting the votes. If she wins fair and square, then that is the fact. BUT when the economic crash happens, all those who are pissed off will march on Washington, and the second American Revolution will begin. This time, former military, veterans, retirees who lose their social security and pensions, young couples who lose their homes and jobs, the poor people of America will ALL rise up and demand a new govt. with new representation occur. There will be riots, many will die, but the National Guard cannot handle 320 million citizens whose government has failed them. That time will come, it is just a question of when. China is financing our country, we cannot pay them back. All we do is make interest payments. Like credit card debt eventually those who owe they money fall down, then a new currency, and a new budget has to be implemented. There are not enough young, working Americans providing tax dollars to fund taking care of everyone else who needs help. We are always at a deficit and a shortfall. What are the Democratic plans to fix that? How long would it take under their policies and ideas to do that? She may win, but like someone once told me, numbers don't lie. The deficit will defeat America.

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Posted : October 15, 2016 8:08 am
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I'm not sure I believe the polls either. I have a real hard time believing it's as close as the polls indicate. I predict a landslide victory for Clinton.

You might be right, but it also depends on who is counting the votes. If she wins fair and square, then that is the fact. BUT when the economic crash happens, all those who are pissed off will march on Washington, and the second American Revolution will begin. This time, former military, veterans, retirees who lose their social security and pensions, young couples who lose their homes and jobs, the poor people of America will ALL rise up and demand a new govt. with new representation occur. There will be riots, many will die, but the National Guard cannot handle 320 million citizens whose government has failed them. That time will come, it is just a question of when. China is financing our country, we cannot pay them back. All we do is make interest payments. Like credit card debt eventually those who owe they money fall down, then a new currency, and a new budget has to be implemented. There are not enough young, working Americans providing tax dollars to fund taking care of everyone else who needs help. We are always at a deficit and a shortfall. What are the Democratic plans to fix that? How long would it take under their policies and ideas to do that? She may win, but like someone once told me, numbers don't lie. The deficit will defeat America.

[Edited on 10/15/2016 by gina]

How insightful.

Have we invaded Iran yet?


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 8:40 am
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No Ron, we have other countries to go to first. We will be going to the Sudan in 2017, also back to Ethiopia and Somalia. (unless if Trump is elected, then things can change).


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 8:57 am
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I'm not sure I believe the polls either. I have a real hard time believing it's as close as the polls indicate. I predict a landslide victory for Clinton.

You might be right, but it also depends on who is counting the votes. If she wins fair and square, then that is the fact. BUT when the economic crash happens, all those who are pissed off will march on Washington, and the second American Revolution will begin. This time, former military, veterans, retirees who lose their social security and pensions, young couples who lose their homes and jobs, the poor people of America will ALL rise up and demand a new govt. with new representation occur. There will be riots, many will die, but the National Guard cannot handle 320 million citizens whose government has failed them. That time will come, it is just a question of when. China is financing our country, we cannot pay them back. All we do is make interest payments. Like credit card debt eventually those who owe they money fall down, then a new currency, and a new budget has to be implemented. There are not enough young, working Americans providing tax dollars to fund taking care of everyone else who needs help. We are always at a deficit and a shortfall. What are the Democratic plans to fix that? How long would it take under their policies and ideas to do that? She may win, but like someone once told me, numbers don't lie. The deficit will defeat America.

[Edited on 10/15/2016 by gina]

Another stupid analysis from the resident dingbat.


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 8:58 am
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I think the liberal movement is still way ahead in the race, and much much larger.

How much larger can the National Debt go before it starts to become a problem? In your opinion.

Word is to help reduce the debt, you'll be paying a per post tax on the band's web site. You know how those Dems love taxes.

So is $70 Trillion, $90 Trillion do-able? Can interest rates stay at zero for the next four years or more?

trump says big tax cuts for EVERYONE! Grin how will this help lower the national debt?

Tax cuts for businesses means they can make more money here in America than sending jobs overseas. Since they will have jobs here, people here can get jobs and go to work. People going to work can pay taxes, (some of that will be used towards the debt). Since they are working, they will have money to spend in local businesses further stimulating the economy putting more people to work. Tax cuts and incentives for US businesses to stay here will help our economy.

NAFTA sent jobs overseas. Open borders let illegals in who take jobs that legal citizens could have. We need that wall. If illegals are not stealing jobs, that means there are more jobs already here for Americans who want to work.

Well that's some of it.

Care to provide some detail on Trump's non USA production for his various enterprises. While you're at it, please provide some info on Trump's foreign investments. He's "Making America Great Again" by doing this?

He'll "Make America Great Again" when this election is over, when he loses, and he moves on to his next non White House adventure. We The People have just about seen & heard as much of this narcissist as we can stomach.


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 10:29 am
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Getting rich by means of a corrupt political career, selling favors and influence, abusing your own political position to raise millions for your foundation is much more noble than being an international businessman. No contest.


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 10:36 am
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Getting rich by means of a corrupt political career, selling favors and influence, abusing your own political position to raise millions for your foundation is much more noble than being an international businessman. No contest.

Why don't you tell us about this corruption. You know, since the Clintons have been investigated many times with no charges brought. Maybe you were thinking about Trump. Yeah, that's it, Crooked Trump. Grin


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 1:25 pm
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Getting rich by means of a corrupt political career, selling favors and influence, abusing your own political position to raise millions for your foundation is much more noble than being an international businessman. No contest.

You do realize that your views are shared by someone who posts on this website that Bin Laden is still alive and awaiting the return of Jesus so he can fight by his side, and that time travelers have told us that Mars is a prison planet 4000 years from now. Fine company.


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 1:30 pm
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Getting rich by means of a corrupt political career, selling favors and influence, abusing your own political position to raise millions for your foundation is much more noble than being an international businessman. No contest.

You call a sex predator who has violated the Cuba embargo and Iranian sanctions a noble business man?

It is interesting that the right excuses the massive business losses and tax breaks for Trump by saying the tax system allows it, but for Clinton it is never the system but always corruption. Clinton got rich because of a corrupt political system, a system that by far has enriched more republican politicians over the years, although the dems are catching up. You seem to not understand that the Clinton foundation is a charitable foundation. Trump has used his foundation variously to buy a painting of himself, to pay off politicians and to recruit evangelicals for illegal political purposes.


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 1:49 pm
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Getting rich by means of a corrupt political career, selling favors and influence, abusing your own political position to raise millions for your foundation is much more noble than being an international businessman. No contest.

You call a sex predator who has violated the Cuba embargo and Iranian sanctions a noble business man?

Actually, no. I didn't call him that. If you read carefully you might realize it.


 
Posted : October 15, 2016 9:53 pm
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Getting rich by means of a corrupt political career, selling favors and influence, abusing your own political position to raise millions for your foundation is much more noble than being an international businessman. No contest.

You call a sex predator who has violated the Cuba embargo and Iranian sanctions a noble business man?

Actually, no. I didn't call him that. If you read carefully you might realize it.

You were comparing one kind of person to another and it seemed to me that the first was Clinton and the second Trump. It is true that you directly did not say the businessman--who I assumed is Trump--is more noble but you implied it.

Rewrite: Republicans generally believe that a sex predator who has violated the Cuba embargo and Iranian sanctions is a noble businessman?


 
Posted : October 16, 2016 4:43 am
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