War Criminal? Where are the charges?
Don’t look too hard, they don’t exist; it’s just another liberal label with no validity.
Guess that explains why Bush/Cheney never leave the country...............
The Democrats did their part by playing the race card, issuing false assurances, and calling into question the motives of anyone concerned enough to address the problem.
Another conservative generality with no proof or meaning.............. 
We're creating... an ownership society in this country, where more Americans than ever will be able to open up their door where they live and say, welcome to my house, welcome to my piece of property. - President George W. Bush, October 2004
War Criminal? Where are the charges?
Don’t look too hard, they don’t exist; it’s just another liberal label with no validity.Guess that explains why Bush/Cheney never leave the country...............
Never mind this, though. Have it your way. It was all Bush's fault and all on the GOP. Wouldn't expect it to go any other way, would we?
Simply unbelievable.
Do you even understand what ultimately caused the problem with the banking system and led to the financial debacle? A totally idiotic, irrational, illogical housing policy initially set into motion by the CRA.
How convenient that you seem to forget what the Iraq war has contributed to the debt.
I think you are being more than a little disingenuous.
You say that while admitting it is in better shape than with a Republican as President. After 8 years of Bush how can you persuade me to vote for a Republican Executive. Your tired of lament of "not enough recovery" is ridiculous. In a Republicans hands we would be in a depression.
Interesting. But decade after decade of Democratic leadership and policy in Baltimore has nothing to do with the current situation there?
I call bullsh*t.
Do you even understand what ultimately caused the problem with the banking system and led to the financial debacle? A totally idiotic, irrational, illogical housing policy initially set into motion by the CRA.
How convenient that you seem to forget what the Iraq war has contributed to the debt.
I think you are being more than a little disingenuous.
I didn't forget anything. Are you trying to be funny? How exactly did the national debt infect the banking system? And if debt was the root cause, how are we any better off today than six years ago? The debt has almost DOUBLED in that time, so using your logic that makes the banking system almost TWICE as vulnerable than it was six years ago.
You say that while admitting it is in better shape than with a Republican as President. After 8 years of Bush how can you persuade me to vote for a Republican Executive. Your tired of lament of "not enough recovery" is ridiculous. In a Republicans hands we would be in a depression.
Interesting. But decade after decade of Democratic leadership and policy in Baltimore has nothing to do with the current situation there?
I call bullsh*t.
Big V they're simply never going to accept responsibility for anything bad that happens. You can forget it. The GOP will be blamed for EVERY problem, EVERY instance, EVERY time, EVERY place. Their survival depends on it, since their very survival depends on victimization, misplaced blame, and low information voters who don't know the difference and aren't interested in knowing.
Never mind this, though. Have it your way. It was all Bush's fault and all on the GOP. Wouldn't expect it to go any other way, would we?
Simply unbelievable.
No one single entity is or was to blame. I've said it over and over again and just said it again.
You say that while admitting it is in better shape than with a Republican as President. After 8 years of Bush how can you persuade me to vote for a Republican Executive. Your tired of lament of "not enough recovery" is ridiculous. In a Republicans hands we would be in a depression.
Interesting. But decade after decade of Democratic leadership and policy in Baltimore has nothing to do with the current situation there?
I call bullsh*t.
Big V they're simply never going to accept responsibility for anything bad that happens. You can forget it. The GOP will be blamed for EVERY problem, EVERY instance, EVERY time, EVERY place. Their survival depends on it, since their very survival depends on victimization, misplaced blame, and low information voters who don't know the difference and aren't interested in knowing.
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Well said.
It would seem the liberals political ideology is more important to them than the poor people losing more, failed schools and dead black people.
Isn't it rather foolish to make a determination of an entire political ideology based on the performance of cities run by each party? Surely one can understand that there are many other strong factors that affect performance, and the political party is very low on the list. There are successful republican states/cities, successful democratic states/cities, etc.
Isn't it rather foolish to make a determination of an entire political ideology based on the performance of cities run by each party? Surely one can understand that there are many other strong factors that affect performance, and the political party is very low on the list. There are successful republican states/cities, successful democratic states/cities, etc.
You are exactly right, especially when it comes to issues involving race relations. There are many subjects where political philosophies affect outcomes and making arguments along partisan lines is appropriate, but this is not one of them.
The fact remains that Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago are cities deeply in debt, have failing schools and poor people with no chance of escaping the liberal policies that keep them in the ghettos or the morgue.
The Democrats run these cities. So, what will the Democrats do now?
What do the liberals here think the Democrats should do now?
Isn't it rather foolish to make a determination of an entire political ideology based on the performance of cities run by each party? Surely one can understand that there are many other strong factors that affect performance, and the political party is very low on the list. There are successful republican states/cities, successful democratic states/cities, etc.
You are exactly right, especially when it comes to issues involving race relations. There are many subjects where political philosophies affect outcomes and making arguments along partisan lines is appropriate, but this is not one of them.
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
I didn't forget anything. Are you trying to be funny? How exactly did the national debt infect the banking system? And if debt was the root cause, how are we any better off today than six years ago? The debt has almost DOUBLED in that time, so using your logic that makes the banking system almost TWICE as vulnerable than it was six years ago.
And I asked, HOW MUCH OF THE NEW DEBT IS INTEREST PAID ON THE MONEY BORROWED FOR THE STUPID, ILLEGAL, UNWINNABLE, CRIMINAL WAR IN IRAQ!!!!!!
Wall meet alloak. Perhaps you can talk to him.
I didn't forget anything. Are you trying to be funny? How exactly did the national debt infect the banking system? And if debt was the root cause, how are we any better off today than six years ago? The debt has almost DOUBLED in that time, so using your logic that makes the banking system almost TWICE as vulnerable than it was six years ago.
And I asked, HOW MUCH OF THE NEW DEBT IS INTEREST PAID ON THE MONEY BORROWED FOR THE STUPID, ILLEGAL, UNWINNABLE, CRIMINAL WAR IN IRAQ!!!!!!
Wall meet alloak. Perhaps you can talk to him.
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Little Billy just can't stop lying:
"THE STUPID, ILLEGAL, UNWINNABLE, CRIMINAL WAR IN IRAQ"
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
Does not logic dictate that this same formula applies to the whole country?
Isn't it rather foolish to make a determination of an entire political ideology based on the performance of cities run by each party? Surely one can understand that there are many other strong factors that affect performance, and the political party is very low on the list. There are successful republican states/cities, successful democratic states/cities, etc.
You are exactly right, especially when it comes to issues involving race relations. There are many subjects where political philosophies affect outcomes and making arguments along partisan lines is appropriate, but this is not one of them.
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
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"The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. "
Enlighten us.
What do you think the solution is?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/05/was-the-iraq-war-a-crime-or-a-mistake-yes.html
May 19, 2015 7:00 a.m.
Was the Iraq War a Crime or a Mistake? Yes.
By Jonathan ChaitPretty much everybody in American politics now agrees that the Iraq War was not a great idea. The source of disagreement has moved, instead, to a different question: Was it a failure, or a crime? Republicans insist the Bush administration was merely the victim of bad intelligence. “I still say it was not a mistake,” says ( http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2015/05/17/sen-marco-rubio-answers- critics-on-immigration-foreign-policy/) Marco Rubio, “because the president was presented with intelligence that said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.”
Liberal critics reject the honest-mistake explanation. “The Iraq war wasn’t an innocent mistake, a venture undertaken on the basis of intelligence that turned out to be wrong,” replies Paul Krugman ( http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/opinion/paul-krugman-errors-and-lies.html? action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right- region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region) , “America invaded Iraq because the Bush administration wanted a war.” And the liberal critics are correct that the war was not merely an honest mistake. But they have framed their indictment of the Bush administration’s intelligence manipulation in such a way ?as to help it, and its defenders, evade the truth.
It is true that western intelligence agencies badly overestimated Iraq’s weapons capability before the invasion. The Clinton administration ( http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/01/spies-lies-and-weapons-what-went- wrong/302878/) , France ( http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/French_address_on_Iraq_at_the_UN_Security_Council) , Hans Blix ( http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/world/threats-and-responses-the-inspector-blix-says-he-saw- nothing-to-prompt-a-war.html) , among other sources, all suspected Saddam Hussein of continuing to harbor weapons of mass destruction. They all suffered from a widespread intelligence failure.
The Bush administration’s strategy from the outset has been to hide behind this failure of intelligence. In 2004, Republicans in Congress insisted that an investigatory panel could only delve into the ways in which the intelligence community failed, and not how the White House manipulated intelligence.
“Republicans have used their political control over both houses of Congress to focus inquiries by the Senate and House Intelligence Committees almost solely on the judgments reached by intelligence agencies rather than on the public statements issued by the White House or the administration itself,” reported ( http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/03/world/struggle-for-iraq-intelligence-commission- decide-itself-depth-its-investigation.html) the New York Times in February, 2004.
Instead, the Republicans allowed for a commission, chaired by Democrat Chuck Robb and Republican Laurence Silberman, that would avoid judging the administration’s culpability. “Our executive order did not direct us to deal with the use of intelligence by policymakers, and all of us were agreed that that was not part of our inquiry,” noted ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/AR2005111101832.html) the Robb-Silberman report.
Republicans all along have deflected the accusation about Bush falsifying intelligence by turning it into a question of failed intelligence. In 2005, David Brooks wrote a witheringly condescending column ( http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E5D8163EF930A35752C1A9639C8B63) portraying Reid as an unhinged conspiracy theorist because he accused the administration of falsifying its Iraq intelligence. In his column, Brooks cited numerous officials from outside the Bush administration who believed Iraq harbored weapons of mass destruction. Therefore, Brooks concluded, only a conspiratorial loon would suspect Bush of manipulating the intelligence. (Brooks’s column repeatedly describes Reid as “writing important notes in crayon on the outside of envelopes.”)
A second report, the “Phase II report ( http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/record.cfm? id=298775) ,” which came out in 2008, did investigate the administration’s manipulation of intelligence. Its verdict was clear: “the Administration repeatedly presented intelligence as fact when in reality it was unsubstantiated, contradicted, or even non-existent.” Incredibly, conservatives have continued to portray the Iraq intelligence question as a simple innocent failure. “Bush’s critics, both the dishonest and the foolish, called him a liar for the mistake. But as the 2005 bipartisan Robb-Silberman report on the intelligence leading up to the war noted, it was the CIA’s “own independent judgments — flawed though they were — that led them to conclude Iraq had active WMD programs,” argued a Wall http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/05/was-the-iraq-war-a-crime-or-a-mistake-yes.html
Street Journal editorial.
This wasn’t from 2005. This editorial ran last week ( http://www.wsj.com/articles/republicans-and-iraq-1431646531) !
In his column today ( http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/opinion/david-brooks-learning-from- mistakes.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion- c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region) , Brooks also cites Robb-Silberman as proof that the Bush administration did not manipulate intelligence. "There’s a fable going around now that the intelligence about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was all cooked by political pressure, that there was a big political conspiracy to lie us into war," he writes. "That doesn’t gibe with the facts. Anybody conversant with the Robb-Silberman report from 2005 knows that this was a case of human fallibility."This is how the dodge works. Step 1: Prevent a Senate report from looking into whether the administration lied. Step 2: Ignore the existence of the report that did show the administration lied. Step 3: Pretend that an intelligence failure and a deliberate effort to cook the intelligence are mutually exclusive. It was a mistake, therefore it could not have also been a crime.
The trouble is that critics like Krugman are also presenting the crime-versus-mistake question in mutually exclusive terms. “The public justifications for the invasion were nothing but pretexts, and falsified pretexts at that,” argues Krugman. This case unwittingly abets the Bush administration’s defense. After all, if the debate is whether the intelligence was manipulated or flawed, the Bush administration can supply plenty of evidence for the latter. The Bush administration was the victim of bad intelligence, but also the perpetrator. Its defense lies in pretending that those two things cannot both be the case.
Cut and pasting from a left-wing opinion piece?
You really are desperate son.
Are you incapable of original thought (without lying)?
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
Does not logic dictate that this same formula applies to the whole country?
Not at all. Are things the same in rural Kansas or Montana or any less populous region of the country the same as an aging city? Of course not. They are completely different.
Cut and pasting from a left-wing opinion piece?
You really are desperate son.Are you incapable of original thought (without lying)?
Yeah, cut and pastes from Breitbart are an example of your original thinking. 😛
Isn't it rather foolish to make a determination of an entire political ideology based on the performance of cities run by each party? Surely one can understand that there are many other strong factors that affect performance, and the political party is very low on the list. There are successful republican states/cities, successful democratic states/cities, etc.
You are exactly right, especially when it comes to issues involving race relations. There are many subjects where political philosophies affect outcomes and making arguments along partisan lines is appropriate, but this is not one of them.
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
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"The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. "
Enlighten us.
What do you think the solution is?
That's funny coming from someone who points fingers all day and cut and pastes Breitbart.
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
Does not logic dictate that this same formula applies to the whole country?
Not at all. Are things the same in rural Kansas or Montana or any less populous region of the country the same as an aging city? Of course not. They are completely different.
And they are Governed according to how the populace votes.
True or False?
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
Does not logic dictate that this same formula applies to the whole country?
Not at all. Are things the same in rural Kansas or Montana or any less populous region of the country the same as an aging city? Of course not. They are completely different.
And they are Governed according to how the populace votes.
True or False?
What is your point? You claim to be a Libertarian, not a Republican. Yet you take up for the Republican Party just about every time you post. Do you know what a libertarian is? It's a Republican that doesn't have the balls to admit it.
Why don't you try taking a stand FOR something, a stand that might help the country. Pointing fingers and attacking ideology is lazy and pointless. And that is pretty much the sum of what you and some others post here.
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
Does not logic dictate that this same formula applies to the whole country?
Not at all. Are things the same in rural Kansas or Montana or any less populous region of the country the same as an aging city? Of course not. They are completely different.
And they are Governed according to how the populace votes.
True or False?
What is your point? You claim to be a Libertarian, not a Republican. Yet you take up for the Republican Party just about every time you post. Do you know what a libertarian is? It's a Republican that doesn't have the balls to admit it.
Why don't you try taking a stand FOR something, a stand that might help the country. Pointing fingers and attacking ideology is lazy and pointless. And that is pretty much the sum of what you and some others post here.
You did not answer, True or False?
Libertarians as well can find fault with the Democratic Party. Is that a problem?
The dynamics of large cities are far more complex than some people can ever realize. The cities of this country are true melting pots where there is a large mixture of different people from different places. Add to that the fact that jobs have left the cities leaving high unemployment, which then causes tax revenue to decline, thus causing the aging infrastructure to be neglected. The solution is far more complex than which party is in power. But, when ones personal political ideology consists of pointing fingers at people that he is not, like Democrats, blacks, immigrants etc., then what you get are simpleton responses from a clueless person.
Does not logic dictate that this same formula applies to the whole country?
Not at all. Are things the same in rural Kansas or Montana or any less populous region of the country the same as an aging city? Of course not. They are completely different.
And they are Governed according to how the populace votes.
True or False?
What is your point? You claim to be a Libertarian, not a Republican. Yet you take up for the Republican Party just about every time you post. Do you know what a libertarian is? It's a Republican that doesn't have the balls to admit it.
Why don't you try taking a stand FOR something, a stand that might help the country. Pointing fingers and attacking ideology is lazy and pointless. And that is pretty much the sum of what you and some others post here.
You did not answer, True or False?
Libertarians as well can find fault with the Democratic Party. Is that a problem?
It does not matter which party is in power. What makes up the dynamics of any part of any country is far more complex than that. But, seeing as how you don't understand any complex thinking, you will never understand how things work. You are the perfect Republican although you haven't got the guts to admit it.
Last month we exposed many of the ugly lies about Freddie Gray being spread by conservatives—ranging from the lie that he broke his neck jumping from a window while evading police to the lie that he had a spinal surgery in the weeks before he was killed stemming from a car accident.
It's now been one month since 25-year-old Freddie Gray died because of critical injuries he suffered while in police custody. Six officers having been charged in his murder. And many facts continue to emerge, including a video that was just released showing one of the many stops made while Freddie was in the van.Below, from the moment when police arrested Freddie Gray until now, we will expose each lie that has been told by the Baltimore police.
LIE: The arrest of Freddie Gray was lawful.
TRUTH: Everything about the arrest of Gray was unlawful.
Sadly, we will never fully understand what happened on April 12, because Gray never spoke another word again after he emerged from the police van that day and died one week later from his injuries.
The police claim, in their own timeline, that they chased and subdued Gray (and another unnamed man), but never gave any legal reason for doing so other than making eye contact with them.
The Baltimore police commissioner, Anthony Batts, has already said clearly that "there is no law against running." What law, then, did Gray break to be pursued and arrested in the first place? It is not legal to simply look at a man and assume it must be a criminal.
Furthermore, while police claim that Gray was carrying an illegal knife at the time of his arrest, two facts about this need to be clarified:
1. The police themselves claimed to have found the knife after they hadchased, caught and cuffed him.
In charging documents, prosecutors say three officers were on patrol near Gilmor Homes when Gray spotted them and began to run.
Prosecutors say the officers chased Gray and soon caught him. They say the officers held him down, handcuffed him, and found the knife.The officers "substantially found a knife clipped to the inside of his pants pocket," prosecutors wrote in the documents. "The blade of the knife was folded into the handle. The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law."
2. While officers contend that the knife was indeed a switchblade, Prosecutor Marilyn Mosby and her team said strongly that it isn't. Either way, the illegal pursuit and arrest took place before they found the knife.
LIE: Officer Garrett Miller, under oath, stated in his initial police report that Gray was arrested without force or incident. The report is below.Police report where Garrett Miller claims, under oath, that Freddie Gray was arrested without force or incident.
Police report where Officer Garrett Miller claims, under oath, that Freddie Gray was arrested without force or incident.
TRUTH: Nothing about this arrest was normal.
Witness Kevin Moore, who also filmed the arrest, said that police had Freddie folded up like "a piece of origami" and that the "heels of his feet were in his back" and that officers had their "knees on his neck" and that Freddie was "asking for an inhaler" and "telling them he couldn't breathe."Harold Perry, another witness, said,
"I heard this boy hollering and screaming," said Harold Perry.
Perry said he heard the commotion near his home in the 1700 block of Presbury St. where the arrest occurred."You're hurting my neck! You're hurting my neck! Get your knee out my back!", Perry recalled.
Perry claims in an exclusive interview with WUSA9 that police shouted at Gray to "shut the f--- up."
See Harold Perry's interview starting at 1:08 in the video below.
The video below shows Gray in clear pain after he is arrested. He is screaming and his legs do not appear to be working. The people filming the video are clearly angry because they see him in pain as well and wonder if his legs are broken.
Starting at 1:41 in the video below, another onlooker filmed the arrest of Gray. In this video, his legs are limp, dangle in an unnatural motion, and he appears to be in serious pain.
LIE: The police released the following timeline, which was deliberately misleading and missing key pieces of information, following the death of Gray.
8:39:12 a.m., Sunday, April 12
At the corner of North Avenue and Mount Street in Baltimore, a police officer makes eye contact with two individuals, one of them Gray. Both individuals start running southbound as officers begin pursuing them.8:39:52 a.m.
One unit (officer) says "I got him" at 1700 Presbury Street, two blocks south of North and Mount.
8:40:12 a.m.
An officer says we've got one and confirms the address of 1700 Presbury, where Gray gave up without the use of force, according to Rodriguez. One officer took out his stun gun but did not deploy it, he said.
8:42:52 a.m.
Gray asks for an inhaler. Police request a "wagon" to transport him.
8:46:02 a.m.
The van's driver says he believes Gray is acting "irate" in the back, according to Rodriguez
8:46:12 a.m.
At the corner of Mount Street and Baker Street, an officer asks the vehicle driver to stop so they can finish paperwork. At that point, Gray is placed in leg irons and put back in the wagon. Police interviewed several witnesses in the community with regard to that specific stop, Rodriguez said. The videos that were filmed by bystanders show events similar to what Rodriguez describes happens at this point.
8:54:02 a.m.
The wagon clears Mount Street and heads southbound towards central booking.
8:59:52 a.m.
The van's driver asks for an additional unit to "check on his prisoner [Gray]," Rodriguez said.
Another individual is arrested and a wagon is requested.
Before the wagon leaves, there is "some communication" with Gray, according to Rodriguez.
They then travel to the police department's western district with Gray and the other suspect in the wagon. The two are separated by a metal barrier had no physical contact.
9:24:32 a.m.
A medic is called.
TRUTH: Beyond being deliberately vague, at least five critical pieces of information are missing from this misleading timeline.
1. Police claimed that at 8:46 AM they stopped the van to shackle Freddie Gray because he was acting irate. However, in newly released videos taken by a bystander at that stop, not only is Freddie not speaking, he's not moving whatsoever. He's the opposite of irate.2. The police made another stop that they failed to mention and only admitted to after a private security camera confirmed it. Deputy Commissioner Kevin Davis admitted this in a press conference,
Last week, Davis said there were three stops — one to put leg irons on Gray, the second “to deal with Mr. Gray” for an unexplained reason and the third to pick up another prisoner.
The new stop “was discovered from a privately owned camera,” Davis said, and came between the first and second stops. He did not elaborate.Here is the video of that stop.
3. In this video, police appear to be placing Freddie Gray on his stomach in the back of the police van. Mind you, his legs are shackled and his hands are cuffed behind his back. Beyond being against policy and protocol because of how dangerous it is, Freddie had already, according to their own timeline, communicated that he had asthma and could not breathe.
Joseph L. Giacalone, a retired New York Police Department detective sergeant who trains law enforcement, said, "You would never put a detainee struggling to breathe face down because that never promotes free breathing."
4. At 8:59 a.m, during a stop, Freddie Gray told Officers Ceasar Goodson and William Porter that he needed medical care but they did nothing.
Goodson radioed for support from other officers to “check on the status of his prisoner”, said Mosby. He then made a third stop at Druid Hill Avenue and Dolphin Street at 8.59 a.m.. He and Officer William Porter inspected Gray. Mosby said Porter asked the 25-year-old if he needed medical care, and Gray “indicated at least twice he was in need of a medic”.
Yet Goodson and Porter still did not request medical care, the state’s attorney said. Despite moving Gray from the floor of the van to the bench, Porter once again failed to restrain Gray with a seatbelt. And despite Gray’s obvious distress, Goodson chose—“in a grossly negligent manner,” said Mosby—to respond to a separate arrest nearby.5. Officers Goodson, Porter, and now Alicia White all observed Gray completely unresponsive at their fourth stop. Officer White spoke to Gray and he did not respond.
Goodson and Porter again inspected Gray, this time with Sergeant Alicia White. They “observed Mr Gray unresponsive on the floor of the wagon,” yet did not act. White “spoke to the back of Mr Gray’s head” and when he did not respond “she did nothing further despite the fact that she was advised that he needed a medic,” said Mosby.
“She made no effort to look or assess or determine his condition,” said Mosby. Gray, laid out on the floor of the wagon and not answering, was ignored.“Despite Mr Gray’s seriously deteriorating medical condition, no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for Mr Gray at that time by any officer,” said Mosby. He was once again not restrained with a seatbelt in the back of the van as Goodson made the last leg of his journey to the police department’s western district headquarters.
LIE: Police leaked to The Washington Post that the man arrested and placed in the van behind a separate partition was a 38-year-old under protective order who claimed Gray was deliberately trying to injure himself in the van. They also claimed they couldn't reveal his identity.
TRUTH: Not only did the police blatantly lie about the identity of this man, who turned out to be 22-year-old Donta Allen, he openly came out to blast the lies in several interviews after the fact. Here he flat-out denies that he ever claimed Gray was intentionally trying to injure himself and says that he never heard him say anything. Furthermore, you must remember that police already stated in their reports to the prosecutor that Gray was completely unresponsive BEFORE this man was loaded into the van. This was a deliberate misinformation attempt.In the comments below, please detail any additional lies or inaccuracies that you have found. Include links if you can.
ORIGINALLY POSTED TO SHAUNKING ON WED MAY 20, 2015 AT 11:37 AM PDT.ALSO REPUBLISHED BY POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY GROUP AND DAILY KOS.
It does not matter which party is in power. What makes up the dynamics of any part of any country is far more complex than that.
Man. Are you a Professor?
It does not matter which party is in power. What makes up the dynamics of any part of any country is far more complex than that.
Man. Are you a Professor?
No, but I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
