An Interesting Take On The Baltimore Riots

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
Here is an idea. You should run for office. You have all of the aanswers.

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
There is a bill that I heard about yesterday that would lock up for five years any deported aliens who return a second time. Expect Democrats to oppose that and if it ever passed, Obama to veto it. Even though it makes perfect sense.

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
The cost to incarcerate a prisoner is on average $47,000 per year, not including the cost to build what would be a tremendous number of new prisons. Are you ok with increasing your taxes to build all these new prisons and paying almost a million dollars to house each of these prisoners for 20 years?
If they are deported for being violent criminals and simply sneak back in? YOU BET.

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
Here is an idea. You should run for office. You have all of the aanswers.
I love it. First he's accused of having no suggestions. Then he makes one and he's snarkily dismissed as "having all the answers." This is why its so frustrating to argue these days.

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
Here is an idea. You should run for office. You have all of the aanswers.
I love it. First he's accused of having no suggestions. Then he makes one and he's snarkily dismissed as "having all the answers." This is why its so frustrating to argue these days.
That went over your head. Color me surprised. 😛 As for arguing, all you do is come in here and blitz everyone with 3 or 4 posts in every thread where you basically say "I am right and you are stupid". Yeah, discussion with you is a so rewarding.
BTW, that was sarcasm as was my remark to alloak. As dumb as he is, he got it. You didn't. 😛

Here is an idea. You should run for office. You have all of the aanswers.
I love it. First he's accused of having no suggestions. Then he makes one and he's snarkily dismissed as "having all the answers." This is why its so frustrating to argue these days.
As for arguing, all you do is come in here and blitz everyone with 3 or 4 posts in every thread where you basically say "I am right and you are stupid".
BTW, that was sarcasm as was my remark to alloak. As dumb as he is, he got it.
Both of these in the same post by the same poster. Gotta love it. Maybe "stupid" and "dumb" have different meanings?

None of this stuff addresses the real issue. Life in Mexico is a miserable existence for the vast majority of the citizens there. That is why they want to come to the US; a chance at employment and raising a family and improving life conditions. Ain't much chance of that in Mexico. I agree with the idea of a mandatory 5 year prison sentence for any deported aliens who return a second time. Add five years for each violent offense they commit on US soil. Allow an easy and cheap path to citizenship so as to incorporate those who want to live and work here into our economic system, while also allowing our DEA to make eradicating the drug cartels their top priority. Use this as leverage to financially annex Mexico.

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
There is a bill that I heard about yesterday that would lock up for five years any deported aliens who return a second time. Expect Democrats to oppose that and if it ever passed, Obama to veto it. Even though it makes perfect sense.
S. 744 passed in the Senate in 2013, the largest piece of immigration reform in American history. Passed with huge and as we know, extremely rare bi-partisan support. Never even came up for debate in the House.
Why?
That was two years ago. Could that legislation have already made an impact?

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
Here is an idea. You should run for office. You have all of the aanswers.
I love it. First he's accused of having no suggestions. Then he makes one and he's snarkily dismissed as "having all the answers." This is why its so frustrating to argue these days.
That went over your head. Color me surprised. 😛 As for arguing, all you do is come in here and blitz everyone with 3 or 4 posts in every thread where you basically say "I am right and you are stupid". Yeah, discussion with you is a so rewarding.
BTW, that was sarcasm as was my remark to alloak. As dumb as he is, he got it. You didn't. 😛
I have never called anyone stupid. Unfortunately some people don't like being told they are wrong by someone who disagrees with them. They feel like they are being called stupid. Oh they don't mind telling others they are wrong. They just don't like being told. ALso makes it tough to have a legitimate debate about anything.

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
There is a bill that I heard about yesterday that would lock up for five years any deported aliens who return a second time. Expect Democrats to oppose that and if it ever passed, Obama to veto it. Even though it makes perfect sense.
S. 744 passed in the Senate in 2013, the largest piece of immigration reform in American history. Passed with huge and as we know, extremely rare bi-partisan support. Never even came up for debate in the House.
Why?
That was two years ago. Could that legislation have already made an impact?
The Legacy of S. 744, the Senate Immigration Reform Bill

Wasn't the killer deported 5 times? What are you supposed to do? Drive them to the border fence, shoot them in the head, and catapult the body back into Mexico.
Here's an idea. Quit deporting them and lock them up. Returning to the US after being deported is a Felony, punishable by 20 years in prison. Why have we lost our ability to simply enforce the law? Because racial politics is driving the legal system.
There is a bill that I heard about yesterday that would lock up for five years any deported aliens who return a second time. Expect Democrats to oppose that and if it ever passed, Obama to veto it. Even though it makes perfect sense.
S. 744 passed in the Senate in 2013, the largest piece of immigration reform in American history. Passed with huge and as we know, extremely rare bi-partisan support. Never even came up for debate in the House.
Why?
That was two years ago. Could that legislation have already made an impact?
TO THE MEMBERS OF THE U.S. SENATE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY:
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce believes that S. 744, the "Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013," is a strong, positive step towards establishing a sensible legal framework and enforceable guidelines that respect the rule of law, helping protect U.S. borders, and meeting the economic and social needs of America.
Congress must recognize that America's current immigration system is broken and does not meet the needs of our citizens or businesses. A broad based approach is needed to fix it, and the Chamber applauds the efforts of Sens. Schumer, McCain, Durbin, Graham, Menendez, Rubio, Bennet, and Flake to craft this legislation.
The Chamber recognizes that the legislation will likely be improved through the Committee markup process and, therefore, urges the Committee to continue its work and ultimately report this legislation to the full Senate for consideration. However, the Chamber strongly opposes any amendments that would weaken this bill or upset the delicate balance the sponsors of this legislation achieved when they crafted it.
Trade and Travel through an Efficient and Controlled Border
The Chamber considers securing the nation's borders and ensuring safe border communities critically important. Fortunately, over the last decade many needed improvements have been implemented at the border and in systems to protect the U.S. from the entry of inadmissible foreign nationals. S. 744 recognizes that further border security actions, with metrics, are needed, and that such steps must balance the twin goals of enhancing national security and strengthening the U.S. economy through the facilitation of trade and travel to the United States.
The Chamber will continue to champion efforts to maximize efficiency, improve infrastructure, and increase staffing at ports of entry, consistent with ensuring national security. Similarly, the Chamber believes that immigration reform should include provisions that upgrade and expand the Visa Waiver Program and otherwise address key barriers in the visa processing system that deter international business and leisure travel.
Work Visa Programs that Allow the Economy to Grow
Existing employment-based programs are very limited, overly complex, and difficult to use. Fundamental change to the structure of immigration laws must institute workable visa programs for lesser-skilled workers, ensure sufficient numbers of visas for the highly skilled, including STEM graduates, and reform visas for production agriculture.
These changes would allow employers to hire high- or lesser-skilled immigrants in accordance with the demands of the economy when U.S. workers are unavailable. Such programs would also improve national security and deter illegal immigration by creating a functional, controlled system meeting workforce needs - a requirement not met by prior immigration legislation.
As the Committee considers S. 744, the Chamber urges that the sound structure in the bill for W-1 visas be retained, allowing employers to participate in a program run by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for lesser-skilled occupations. The Chamber is committed to establishing a new visa classification for the wide spectrum of lesser-skilled, non-agricultural occupations, which are not covered effectively by current visa programs.
In the high-skilled area, increased H-1B visas over current law are vital, and should be regulated in a manner responsive to market demand. In addition, expanded access to green card status for both highly skilled and lesser-skilled workers is a critical part of effectual immigration reform efforts. For Fiscal Year 2012, DHS reported that of the approximately one million new green cards issued, only 59,000 went to either highly skilled or lesser-skilled workers selected for status based on their skills.
The Chamber welcomes provisions that would increase foreign investment and promote free enterprise, such as provisions that would create a new visa category to provide immigrant entrepreneurs with a chance to start a business in the U.S. and create jobs.
While the Chamber advocates for protections to ensure that U.S. workers would get the "first crack" at jobs that might be offered to foreign workers - a key to both high-skilled and lesser-skilled visa programs - efforts by Congress to regulate in this area should not micromanage business decisions.
The Chamber is very concerned about provisions of the bill and, potentially, amendments regarding layoffs, displacement, recruitment, outplacement, and enforcement, which do not reflect real-world realities of how businesses are run, create uncertain, new obligations with employment law implications, and fundamentally fail to recognize that decisions on where to utilize company resources may have ripple effects across a company. The Chamber believes such provisions could, depending on details and specifics, make these vital programs unworkable for employers.
Employment Verification
The Chamber has previously opposed mandatory expansion of E-Verify or associated employment verification enforcement because of unworkable, burdensome, or unreliable employment verification systems, including expansion of verification obligations beyond the direct employeremployee relationship. The technical aspects of the E-Verify system have improved, allowing the Chamber, with our members, to reassess our position. We now accept that a uniform national policy expanding the use of E-Verify is integral to immigration reform.
For the Chamber, the most important factors that led to a change in our position to support a nationwide mandate of E-Verify are: strong preemption provisions for all state and local laws related to the use of E-Verify or establishing state or local investigation or enforcement schemes; the need to mirror existing Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) rules with respect to federal contractor obligations to use E-Verify; no obligation to reverify the entire current workforce for private employers; an integrated single employment verification obligation (integrating the I-9 process into EVerify) available fully electronically as well as telephonically; no obligations beyond the direct employer-employee relationship; and creation of a very clear safe harbor for good faith efforts by employers.
Provisions that would leave employers with inconsistent obligations, punish unintentional actions or technical errors, and do not provide businesses with clarity regarding employment verification requirements are of great concern to the Chamber.
Legalization
The Chamber believes that immigration reform must include a workable means for people to come out of the shadows who are currently undocumented, without creating a permanent underclass of people who do not have the opportunity to become citizens.
Legalization is important to our member companies because they need a stable workforce. It is estimated that in excess of seven million undocumented workers are interwoven into the American workforce. Moreover, legalization - by requiring all undocumented persons to complete criminal background checks - would "shrink the haystack" and allow law enforcement to be more strategic, and effective, in looking for truly dangerous foreign nationals who should be removed, thus enhancing national security.
Conclusion
Immigration reform is one of the compelling challenges of our time. The Chamber will continue to utilize its resources and promote support among our members for broad immigration reform because America cannot compete and win in a global economy without the world's best talent, hardest workers, or biggest dreamers.
The Chamber supports reform that would improve U.S. competitiveness, support efforts to attract and retain the best talent and the workers, secure U.S. borders, and keep faith with America's legacy as an open and welcoming society.
We believe that S. 744 amplifies a detailed blueprint to do exactly that, by addressing the four critical elements of reform the Chamber has long identified: increased border security, expansion of temporary worker programs and employer-sponsored green cards, a balanced and workable employment verification system, and some type of legalization program with tight criteria and eventual citizenship.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the world's largest business federation representing the interests of more than three million members and organizations of every size, sector, and region, as well as state and local chambers and industry associations, and is dedicated to promoting, protecting, and defending America's free enterprise system. The Chamber supports comprehensive immigration reform in the 113th Congress, and believes it is time to put politics and narrow agendas aside and do what is right for the country. The Chamber welcomes this legislation as a critical step toward a final law.
Sincerely,
R. Bruce Josten

None of this stuff addresses the real issue. Life in Mexico is a miserable existence for the vast majority of the citizens there. That is why they want to come to the US; a chance at employment and raising a family and improving life conditions. Ain't much chance of that in Mexico. I agree with the idea of a mandatory 5 year prison sentence for any deported aliens who return a second time. Add five years for each violent offense they commit on US soil. Allow an easy and cheap path to citizenship so as to incorporate those who want to live and work here into our economic system, while also allowing our DEA to make eradicating the drug cartels their top priority. Use this as leverage to financially annex Mexico.
Are you sure? Donald Trump seems to be implying that their economy is doing great and they are taking all our jobs due to US factories relocating there. With all those jobs and a booming economy, along with them sending all their rapists and drug dealers, why would life be miserable in Mexico? Heck, Donald even said that he would get them to pay for a new wall due to their booming economy and smarter government they have done there.

Yes, I'm sure.

Yes, I'm sure.
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So, are you implying that Donald is wrong? He would disagree with you.
On a related topic, I'm just a week away from going to Mexico on vacation. I am relieved to know that there are no rapists or drug dealers anymore since they sent them all to the US.

Yes, I'm sure.
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So, are you implying that Donald is wrong? He would disagree with you.
On a related topic, I'm just a week away from going to Mexico on vacation. I am relieved to know that there are no rapists or drug dealers anymore since they sent them all to the US.
Yes, I am. He is wrong. Have a great time, just don't stray too far from the resort area.

Yes, I'm sure.
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So, are you implying that Donald is wrong? He would disagree with you.
On a related topic, I'm just a week away from going to Mexico on vacation. I am relieved to know that there are no rapists or drug dealers anymore since they sent them all to the US.
Yes, I am. He is wrong. Have a great time, just don't stray too far from the resort area.
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Good tip.

Yes, I'm sure.
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So, are you implying that Donald is wrong? He would disagree with you.
On a related topic, I'm just a week away from going to Mexico on vacation. I am relieved to know that there are no rapists or drug dealers anymore since they sent them all to the US.
Yes, I am. He is wrong. Have a great time, just don't stray too far from the resort area.
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The Yucatan Peninsular is perfectly safe. Apparently every policeman in the country operates there

Black Death in Baltimore continues, not one "racist white cop" involved. The Socialists/Democrats who run the city haven’t a clue.
Baltimore killings soar to a level unseen in 43 years
Published August 01, 2015 - Associated Press
BALTIMORE – Baltimore reached a grim milestone on Friday, three months after riots erupted in response to the death of Freddie Gray in police custody: With 45 homicides in July, the city has seen more bloodshed in a single month than it has in 43 years.
Police reported three deaths — two men shot Thursday and one on Friday. The men died at local hospitals.
With their deaths, this year's homicides reached 189, far outpacing the 119 killings by July's end in 2014. Nonfatal shootings have soared to 366, compared to 200 by the same date last year. July's total was the worst since the city recorded 45 killings in August 1972, according to The Baltimore Sun.
The seemingly Sisyphean task of containing the city's violence prompted Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to fire her police commissioner, Anthony Batts, on July 8.
"Too many continue to die on our streets," Rawlings-Blake said then. "Families are tired of dealing with this pain, and so am I. Recent events have placed an intense focus on our police leadership, distracting many from what needs to be our main focus: the fight against crime."
But the killings have not abated under Interim Commissioner Kevin Davis since then.
Baltimore is not unique in its suffering; crimes are spiking in big cities around the country.
But while the city's police are closing cases— Davis announced arrests in three recent murders several days ago — the violence is outpacing their efforts. Davis said Tuesday the "clearance rate" is at 36.6 percent, far lower than the department's mid-40s average.
Crime experts and residents of Baltimore's most dangerous neighborhoods cite a confluence of factors: mistrust of the police; generalized anger and hopelessness over a lack of opportunities for young black men; and competition among dealers of illegal drugs, bolstered by the looting of prescription pills from pharmacies during the riot.
Federal drug enforcement agents said gangs targeted 32 pharmacies in the city, taking roughly 300,000 doses of opiates, as the riots caused $9 million in property damage in the city.
Perched on a friend's stoop, Sherry Moore, 55, said she knew "mostly all" of the young men killed recently in West Baltimore, including an 18-year-old fatally shot a half-block away. Moore said many more pills are on the street since the riot, making people wilder than usual.
"The ones doing the violence, the shootings, they're eating Percocet like candy and they're not thinking about consequences. They have no discipline, they have no respect — they think this is a game. How many can I put down on the East side? How many can I put down on the West side?"
The tally of 42 homicides in May included Gray, who died in April after his neck was broken in police custody. The July tally likewise includes a previous death — a baby whose death in June was ruled a homicide in July.
Shawn Ellerman, Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the Baltimore division of the Drug Enforcement Administration, said May's homicide spike was probably related to the stolen prescription drugs, a supply that is likely exhausted by now. But the drug trade is inherently violent, and turf wars tend to prompt retaliatory killings.
"You can't attribute every murder to narcotics, but I would think a good number" of them are, he said. "You could say it's retaliation from drug trafficking, it's retaliation from gangs moving in from other territories. But there have been drug markets in Baltimore for years."
Across West Baltimore, residents complain that drug addiction and crime are part of a cycle that begins with despair among children who lack educational and recreational opportunities, and extends when people can't find work.
"We need jobs! We need jobs!" a man riding around on a bicycle shouted to anyone who'd listen after four people were shot, three of them fatally, on a street corner in July.
More community engagement, progressive policing policies and opportunities for young people in poverty could help, community activist Munir Bahar said.
"People are focusing on enforcement, not preventing violence. Police enforce a code, a law. Our job as the community is to prevent the violence, and we've failed," said Bahar, who leads the annual 300 Men March against violence in West Baltimore.
"We need anti-violence organizations, we need mentorship programs, we need a long-term solution. But we also need immediate relief," Bahar added. "When we're in something so deep, we have to stop it before you can analyze what the root is."
Strained relationships between police and the public also play a role, according to Eugene O'Donnell, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice.
Arrests plummeted and violence soared after six officers were indicted in Gray's death. Residents accused police of abandoning their posts for fear of facing criminal charges for making arrests, and said emboldened criminals were settling scores with little risk of being caught.
The department denied these claims, and police cars have been evident patrolling West Baltimore's central thoroughfares recently.
But O'Donnell said the perception of lawlessness is just as powerful than the reality.
"We have a national issue where the police feel they are the Public Enemy No. 1," he said, making some officers stand down and criminals become more brazen.
"There's a rhythm to the streets," he added. "And when people get away with gun violence, it has a long-term emboldening effect. And the good people in the neighborhood think, 'Who has the upper hand?'"

10 People Shot, 1 Fatally, Overnight in Baltimore
08/02/2015
One man was killed and nine others were injured in four separate shooting incidents early Sunday morning.
The first incident happened at around 12:30 a.m. in the 2400 block of Woodbrook Avenue. Officers found a 20-year-old male suffering from a gunshot wound to the leg and graze wound to the head. The victim was taken to an area hospital and is listed in stable condition.
About an hour later, officers responded to the 2200 block of Fayette Street and found a 21-year-old male suffering from multiple gunshot wounds to the chest and torso. The victim is currently listed in serious condition.
At 2:26 a.m., officers responded to the 200 block of N. Payson Street and found a 28-year-old male suffering from multiple gunshot wounds to the face and chest. The victim was pronounced dead on the scene.
Approximately 20 minutes later, at 2:42 a.m., officers responded to an area hospital where they found five people, four males and one female, suffering from gunshot wounds to their legs. The victim’s ages range from 20 to 25. A short time later police responded to the 2700 block of Garrison Avenue where they found a 24-year-old male and 23-year-old female also shot. All seven victims are listed in stable condition.
Anyone with information is asked to call police at 410-396-2477 or Metro Crime Stoppers, 1-866-7LOCKUP.
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