Obama named but a handful of countries; nothing close to the 60 claimed.
The specific contributions were nebulous at best.ISIS continues to grow, seize more land and kill more people.
Yea, Obama and his phantom coalition are doing something close to nothing.
The results on the ground are proof of failure.
The links provided show the countries and the contributions of that country. If Obama was lying, those countries could have come out and called out Obama for lying about their involvement. I remember no such country doing so. You sir, are the lier, and you prove that time and time again.
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The links do not even come close to naming 60 countries and those countries contributions are minimal at best.
A few, very few, Middle Eastern countries flew a limited number of sorties in the first few days but since have stopped.ISIS continues to grow, seize more land and kill more people.
The results on the ground are proof of failure.
Sorry about your inability to count. Should I send over my 8 year old to show you how to do it?
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The source of the information in those links is highly questionable and a well known liar.
Obama named but a handful of countries; nothing close to the 60 claimed.
The specific contributions were nebulous at best.ISIS continues to grow, seize more land and kill more people.
Yea, Obama and his phantom coalition are doing something close to nothing.
The results on the ground are proof of failure.
The links provided show the countries and the contributions of that country. If Obama was lying, those countries could have come out and called out Obama for lying about their involvement. I remember no such country doing so. You sir, are the lier, and you prove that time and time again.
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The links do not even come close to naming 60 countries and those countries contributions are minimal at best.
A few, very few, Middle Eastern countries flew a limited number of sorties in the first few days but since have stopped.ISIS continues to grow, seize more land and kill more people.
The results on the ground are proof of failure.
Sorry about your inability to count. Should I send over my 8 year old to show you how to do it?
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The source of the information in those links is highly questionable and a well known liar.
Sorry, but if you can't accept facts as simple as what nations are supporting us, then there is no reason to pay any further attention to you on this or any other issue.
Why ISIS is beating Obama’s coalition
By Amir Taheri - May 19, 2015 | 6:23pm
In September, President Obama announced a US-led “broad coalition” assembled to “degrade, and ultimately destroy,” the Islamic State (ISIS). Eight months later, the terrorists are stronger than ever.
This month, when the Islamic State launched a massive attack on the large Iraq provincial capital of Ramadi, the government in Baghdad did what it was supposed to do under Obama’s “strategic plan”: Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi called for a meeting of the US-led coalition to coordinate action against ISIS.
Very soon, however, it became clear that no such meeting would ever take place.
The coalition, supposedly consisting of 50 nations, simply has ceased to exist, if it ever did exist.
According to Iraqi sources, al-Abadi then lowered his expectations by meeting US Ambassador to Baghdad Stuart E. Jones to demand intensified airstrikes on ISIS units advancing on Ramadi.
The ambassador managed to convince Washington to conduct a few strikes, but not enough to tip the balance. The terrorists advanced into the heart of the city as Iraqi security forces and many of the inhabitants simply fled.
Ramadi isn’t the first Iraqi city to fall since Obama unveiled his “coalition” last summer.
The terror group has sustained some losses in Iraq, notably the city of Tikrit, Saddam Hussein’s hometown. It has also lost the hotly contested Kurdish city of Kobane in Syria. In both cases, the so-called coalition was prominent by its absence.
In Tikrit, the bulk of the fighting was conducted by the Shiite militia known as Hashad al-Shaabai (Popular Mobilization) trained and armed by Iran. In Kobane, ISIS was driven out by Kurdish guerrillas led by PKK, a leftist Turkish Kurdish outfit.
Overall, however, since Obama announced his coalition, ISIS has expanded its territory by more than 20 percent, according to Iraqi estimates.
In Syria, it annexed the province of Deir al-Zour and reached the desert oasis of Palmyra. In Iraq, it seized control of Haditha, Anah, Tarbil and Al-Qaim, and strengthened its hold on the important oil center at Baiji.
The Obama coalition was marked by confusion about its nature and purpose from the start.
Over the past nine months, of the 50-plus members of the coalition, only four have joined the United States in conducting airstrikes. Now, however, even those four have airbrushed themselves out of the picture.
Some Arab members of the coalition try to justify their passive posture by pointing to fears that Obama is opening the way for Iranian domination of Iraq and, more broadly, the Middle East, in exchange for a nuclear deal with Tehran.
They cite the emergence of the Iraqi Shiite Popular Mobilization, modeled on the Iranian Baseej and the Lebanese Hezbollah, as evidence that Tehran is trying to create a state-within-a-state in Iraq as it has done in Lebanon, in Syria and tried to do in Yemen.
It’s hard to see why Obama would want to help Iran dominate the Middle East. But even if he does, Obama must know that such a scheme has little chance of success.
In a region that has caught the sectarian fever as never before, it’s hard to see how Arabs, mostly Sunnis, would tolerate a Persian empire under the flag of Shiism.
In fact, ISIS is using the Iranian bogeyman as a powerful tool for recruiting Islamic militants from across the world. Official US estimates show that, since Obama announced his coalition, the flow of foreign jihadists to ISIS has intensified.
Iran’s defense minister, Gen. Hussein Dehghan, was in Baghdad this week for “coordination” with his Iraqi counterpart, Khalid al-Ubaidi. Iraqi officials tell me off the record that they would have preferred to see the American secretary of defense instead.
“On paper, Americans are supposed to be our allies,” says an Iraqi leader. “But when it comes to the battlefield, we have to call in the Iranians, who have their own agenda and never joined the 50-plus coalition.”
Not only have we not “degraded” — let alone “destroyed” — ISIS, but the barbaric terrorist group claims to have instead degraded the supposed superpower. Sadly, the terrorists’ claim seems less of an exaggeration than our own.
Anti-ISIS Coalition Makes Little Progress at Paris Meeting
By ALISSA J. RUBINJUNE 2, 2015
PARIS — With Islamist militant fighters on the ground in Syria and Iraq moving faster than the international coalition arrayed against them, a meeting in Paris by coalition members on Tuesday seemed unlikely to reverse the momentum anytime soon.
With the French and American governments playing host, 24 foreign ministers or their representatives have been meeting here in the aftermath of serious losses to the Islamic State in both Iraq and Syria last month and the possibility that more territory will be lost in the coming days.
The group did not embrace any major changes and appeared set to continue on its current course, even though over the past few weeks Syria’s government had lost control of the strategically important city of Palmyra and the Iraqi government has lost control of Ramadi, the capital of Anbar Province, to the Islamic State.
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Both of those cities have strategic and symbolic significance, and now the major northern Syrian city of Aleppo appears in danger of possibly falling to the militants as well.
Comments from Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi of Iraq, State Department officials as well as Laurent Fabius, the French foreign minister, painted a portrait of weaknesses in the fight against the Islamic State and offered reluctant recognition, albeit clad in the neutral language of diplomacy, that coalition efforts were inadequate.
The Islamic State takeovers of Ramadi and Palmyra “highlight the urgency to renew and expand our collective endeavor,” said a statement released at the end of the meeting, issued by Secretary of State John Kerry, Mr. Fabius and Mr. Abadi. The statement described the situation in Syria as “continued deterioration.”
As different political figures at the conference articulated the problems, it sometimes sounded as if they were blaming one another for what has gone wrong.
The Islamic State, also known as ISIS and ISIL, is stronger, better equipped, more lethal and more organized than ever before and Iraq needs more help, said Mr. Abadi.
Many in the coalition argued that no matter how hard the coalition fights, lost territory can never be reclaimed in Iraq unless that country’s Sunni population fights with the Iraqi Army, which is majority Shiite.
The situation in Syria has some similarities, with President Bashar al-Assad strongly supported by Iran and Iranian-backed militias, fighting a mostly Sunni insurgency.
But in Syria, there remain a significant collection of Sunni insurgent groups that are opposed to both ISIS and the government, and the United States is attempting to recruit some of them to be trained and equipped as a front line force against the militants. But the effort so far involves mere scores of fighters, and has struggled over the fact that most Syrian insurgents see fighting Mr. Assad as their main priority.
Mr. Fabius said last week that the Islamic State could not be defeated in Iraq unless the government made a major effort to bring in Sunnis and make them central players in the country. “There is no military solution without a political solution,” he said.
The majority of Iraqis are Shiites but in the areas where the Islamic State has made progress, the Sunnis are the majority sect. Many have been reluctant to fight on behalf of the Shiite-dominated government, which many Iraqi Sunnis mistrust.
Aware of the focus on inclusion, Mr. Abadi offered an array of plans at Tuesday’s meeting to include Sunnis. But he also described the Islamic State’s fighters and equipment as far more formidable than even six months ago, suggesting that his country needed far more help.
The number of foreign fighters has grown and they have begun to use enormous truck bombs that are “huge armored vehicles, full of explosives” said Mr. Abadi, adding that Iraqi missiles were ineffective against them. When the trucks explode, they are like “a mini-nuclear bomb” he said.
He complained that the coalition’s air campaign was “not enough” and that Iraq needed both more intelligence and surveillance from the United States-led coalition as well as arms.
Mr. Abadi said Iraq was looking for an official waiver from the international arms sanctions on Iran so that Iraq could purchase Iranian weapons. He also said he had tried to reinstate Sunni commanders in the Iraqi Army.
His concerns about foreign fighters were shared by the State Department, which in a background briefing by a senior official Monday said that there were now 22,000 foreign fighters from 100 countries. “This is something the world has never seen on this scale,” the official said.
A lack of leadership was cited by the members but deferred to The U.S. Department of State.
Clueless douchemule.
I am branding him with my ideology? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. What a maroon you are.
Point One: People in the Music Industry try very hard not to be affiliated with Right Wing Politics. Check out what happens whenever a Republican uses a rock song and the artist states that he/she does not want to be branded as right wing. If you were posting here on the music side having Warren in your signature would not be an issue. But you are the most prolific poster on the WP and you insist on dominating most issues. So by including Warren in your signature you are in effect branding him in a way that does not reflect his political persona. You can call me all the names you want but that is what you are doing.
Point Two: You never responded to the main argument. There is plenty of evidence in that post that refutes the right wing theory that President Obama refuses to identify the enemy and that there are really solid strategic reasons for this. You could take issue with this but then that would be a recognition on your part that Obama has some value as a human being.
Point Three: I pointed out a while back that in your comments on the Trayvon Martin case you continuously elevated the reference to black people in general and how threatening and violent they were. You seem to like to dehumanize and delegitimize black people and so your comments on Obama have to be understood in that overall context. You treat Muslims in a similar inferior way.
I'm not going to convverse with someone who
1. Calls me a racist. Those are fighting words.
2. Deleligitmzes those with opposing opinions which is what fascists and communists do not liberals and not people who believe in free expression.
3. Tells me I can't like a musician because of my political views. Unless and until you apologize to me for this we will never converse directly again.
People in the Music Industry try very hard not to be affiliated with Right Wing Politics.
How did that work out for the Dixie Chicks?
People in the Music Industry try very hard not to be affiliated with Right Wing Politics.
How did that work out for the Dixie Chicks?
I expect that Warren will make us all present our liberal credentials at the door.
