US sure has the knack of putting some back asswards people in the seats of power. Amazing thing is so many women believe in this shit as well.

Wait until one of their daughters gets pregnant in high school and then see where they take their next "family vacation".

SMH

As a Pro-Choice Voter, I would say "Don't live in Alabama if you believe this attempt at Law is wrong"

As a Pro-Choice Voter, I would say "Don't live in Alabama if you believe this attempt at Law is wrong"

And as other states follow suit and those good ole male conservatives on the SCOTUS stand behind them, should people move to foreign countries to escape the backwards thinking?

Wait until one of their daughters gets pregnant in high school and then see where they take their next "family vacation".

High school nothin! We gonna shut them down seein as how they dont teach Noazark in biology. Still makes no differnce cuz we dont school em anyhow. Just gives em ideas. Heck we just shackle em up in the church basement, plop out some more, if theyz girls we keep a couple fer breedin, trade off a couple to other parish, if its boy well if healthy might could be worth keepin fer farmin an fightin if weak we eat em.

[Edited on 5/15/2019 by BrerRabbit]

Not good move for the Republican party heading into the 2020 election.....Keep pissing off the women voters. The far right base may love it, but i suspect independent women view this as an attack on their reproductive freedoms.

Time for the girls to have another revolution, maybe with some help from the boys this time around. It will happen.

As a Pro-Choice Voter, I would say "Don't live in Alabama if you believe this attempt at Law is wrong"

That is asinine.

When Pat f'n Robertson says this.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pat-robertson-alabama-has-gone-too-far-with-extreme-abortion-law/ar-AABpuXH

As a Pro-Choice Voter, I would say "Don't live in Alabama if you believe this attempt at Law is wrong"

No, that is a ridiculous statement as this this is in violation of Roe vs. Wade so it is against the Federal law and should be stuck down by the Supreme Court if and when the challenge gets there.

As a Pro-Choice Voter, I would say "Don't live in Alabama if you believe this attempt at Law is wrong"

No, that is a ridiculous statement as this this is in violation of Roe vs. Wade so it is against the Federal law and should be stuck down by the Supreme Court if and when the challenge gets there.

Yesterday was a day Mike Pence was probably smiling ear to ear.

Remember that Trump has appointed 2 conservative SC justices recommended to Trump by the Federalist Society. That should tell you all you need to know. All bets are off on interpretation of federal law. If somehow this gets upheld, remember the votes of Susan Collins and her "support for womens' rights". She'll be gone after the next challenge for her seat.

Sometimes I wonder why people care about abortion so much.

Sometimes I wonder why people care about abortion so much.

Because going back to the days of using coat hangers in a back ally is rediculous.

These people that make it their crusade in life to overturn abortion law. These people that base their vote on a single solitary issue of abortion.

I would much rather leave abortion available and accessible for those that need it. But if it were to all go away tomorrow the world keeps turning.

As a Pro-Choice Voter, I would say "Don't live in Alabama if you believe this attempt at Law is wrong"

And as other states follow suit and those good ole male conservatives on the SCOTUS stand behind them, should people move to foreign countries to escape the backwards thinking?

"backwards thinking"...Ask a Nurse, Doctor or obgyn about pregnancy and discover that most will say they have two patients.....

Dilemma

"backwards thinking"...Ask a Nurse, Doctor or obgyn about pregnancy and discover that most will say they have two patients.....

Dilemma

Because they are typically dealing with an eager parent(s) and their purpose is securing the health and safety of the mother and baby. But guess whose health comes first?

Also, ask a rape victim and you'll find you're thinking is bit narrow.

"backwards thinking"...Ask a Nurse, Doctor or obgyn about pregnancy and discover that most will say they have two patients.....

Dilemma

Because they are typically dealing with an eager parent(s) and their purpose is securing the health and safety of the mother and baby. But guess whose health comes first?

Also, ask a rape victim and you'll find you're thinking is bit narrow.

"and their purpose is securing the health and safety of the mother and baby"

The mother and who?

As a Pro-Choice Voter, I would say "Don't live in Alabama if you believe this attempt at Law is wrong"

And as other states follow suit and those good ole male conservatives on the SCOTUS stand behind them, should people move to foreign countries to escape the backwards thinking?

"backwards thinking"...Ask a Nurse, Doctor or obgyn about pregnancy and discover that most will say they have two patients.....

Dilemma

You said you were a pro choice. So what is your point? Are you trying to dance both sides of an issue? The government should stay the f out of womens' most personal reproductive decisions.

Did anybody see the picture of all the male senators in Alabama that voted for this legislation? They would certainly know what's best for a woman, right? No exceptions even in the case of rape or incest.

Yes, truly backwards thinking by the legislators. Let them be the first to step up to adopt. Wonder how many of them have adopted children to prevent choice of a woman?

[Edited on 5/16/2019 by MartinD28]

You said you were a pro choice. So what is your point? Are you trying to dance both sides of an issue?

Dance?.....No. But I believe this is a tough decision for all, myself included. I do believe in a woman's right to control what goes on in her own body; to deny that a child is being carried and a life terminated is madness.

Labeling it "backwards thinking" is as closed minded as it comes.

When Pat f'n Robertson says this.

[url] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pat-robertson-alabama-has-gone-too-far-wi th-extreme-abortion-law/ar-AABpuXH[/url]

So tbo I read your link, the Pat Robertson bit - gave me some cause for optimism. Robertson's concern is that if the Alabama law becomes the Supreme Court battlefield over Roe, it is too draconian and will tie up the courts and be overturned. And the critical moment of change will pass - right now Robertson wants a less strict law to go to the Supreme Court, one that is within reach.

So, they could be reaching for too many bananas and are gonna fall out of the tree. Robertson would be happy if Alabama's law went Federal, it isn't because he thinks it is too strict - he just thinks it is unrealistic. Kind of like when you are carefully hunting and your quarry is in sight, a bunch of drunken yayhoos come roarin and hollerin up and scare away your kill. I bet Pat Robertson is furious right now. Their greatest enemy is themselves.

The mother and who?

Oy, um, ask your mother.

The mother and who?

Oy, um, ask your mother.

Nice. You admit that it is a child and I quote you.....

Nice

I do believe in a woman's right to control what goes on in her own body

I agree. And that is what is at stake here.

While certainly valid, your ethical and metaphysical concerns cloud the issue and at this point only serve to undermine the already crumbling foundations of womens' rights. Those rights need to be secured for perpetuity.

All else is secondary, fine for discussion and contemplation, but has no place or bearing on political dialogue.

Nice. You admit that it is a child and I quote you.....

Nice

Uh, no.

No one denies a baby is involved, no one wrote that here. You're (yet again) creating a straw man argument rather than deal with what people are actually saying.

Obviously OBGYNs deal with expectant parents, who eventually expect a healthy baby (duh). Not everyone wants a baby and they can get an abortion before it develops which is legal. No one said it was an easy issue, but try not to miss the point entirely just so you can insert random arguments.

No one said it was an easy issue, but try not to miss the point entirely just so you can insert random arguments.

Fair enough, try not to be condescending.

No one said it was an easy issue, but try not to miss the point entirely just so you can insert random arguments.

Fair enough, try not to be condescending.

It's really really hard when I have to "defend" stuff that I haven't written. Don't make assumptions.

You said you were a pro choice. So what is your point? Are you trying to dance both sides of an issue?

Dance?.....No. But I believe this is a tough decision for all, myself included. I do believe in a woman's right to control what goes on in her own body; to deny that a child is being carried and a life terminated is madness.

Labeling it "backwards thinking" is as closed minded as it comes.

Other than you, who said "to deny that a child is being carried and a life terminated is madness." You're the one that brought that into the equation? Why - for a tool of argument?

So it is madness? Maybe that's a bit dramatic for what is a legal right. It is an unfortunate situation of the highest degree, but until you or anyone else walks in a woman's shoes, knows her socioeconomic situation, understands her personal issues, we need to back off and let her have her choice as protected by law until the GOP chips away at what is left.

It is backwards thinking to take us back to the time when woman visited alleys and were forced to perform procedures on themselves. We have Roe vs Wade, but people & politicians who want to interfere in the reproductive decision making of 1/2 of the population are appalling. Do you want to go back to the good old times before R v W? So you defend backwards thinking all you want and label the opposite as close minded.

So you defend backwards thinking all you want and label the opposite as close minded.

Pretty much the same thing you are doing, because the way you see it is the "correct" way.

There is no easy answer. Let me ask you this. "In your opinion, when does life begin"?

Let me ask you this. "In your opinion, when does life begin"?

Your first Allman Brothers concert, duh