That's a great question and if the answer is "No" one would have to ask why.

Dan was a smoking hot player!!

Really wish they had. Saw him a few times during his last run with Dickey and he had really grown as a player. A treat to listen to.

Dan played on a Gregg Allman winter tour in as late as 1994/1995 I believe (I know he played with Gregg at Center Stage Theatre) but that didn't lead to any kind of alliance with the Allman Brothers. I don't think he ever played with the ABB after the 2 show reunion in 1986.

Her is a similar question that has always bothered me... Why wasn't Jack Pearson included in the 2009 Beacon Run? Bruce Willis and Kid Rock, but no Jack Pearson - that's lame.

Dan was quite a guitar player, too bad he didn't get more recognition,But obviously Gregg and Dickey thought highly of him.

Dan played on a Gregg Allman winter tour in as late as 1994/1995 I believe (I know he played with Gregg at Center Stage Theatre) but that didn't lead to any kind of alliance with the Allman Brothers. I don't think he ever played with the ABB after the 2 show reunion in 1986.

I saw several of those shows. Gregg has had many players come & go over the years in his solo bands. I always liked the band he had which included both Danny and Frankie Toler. They recorded 2 albums with him.

Her is a similar question that has always bothered me... Why wasn't Jack Pearson included in the 2009 Beacon Run? Bruce Willis and Kid Rock, but no Jack Pearson - that's lame.

Because there's only so many slots for guests to fill and because Bruce Willis and Kid Rock are better for business is all I can think of --- not that I would agree with that approach.

I also thought maybe the band steered away from alums, but pretty sure Chuck and Jimmy played so scratch that theory.

Got me to thinking that maybe there's an unofficial hierarchy of alums like Chuck is #1, but hard to believe Jimmy ranks higher than Jack or Dan?

I think most would agree where Lawler ranks... 😉

Just a theory, but it seemed like the Allman Brothers were eager to separate themselves from the "Arista" era. Also, Dan was playing in Dickey's band during a good portion of the Warren/Derek period, so it seems less likely there would be any communication or desire to extend an invitation.

Here is a 2009 interview with Dan from Relix, it sounds like Dan was buying his own tickets to see the Brothers when he could:

https://www.relix.com/articles/detail/dangerous-dan-toler-an-archival-interview

"I mean, if you go see The Allman Brothers Band, I have not seen the band in a few years, I’ve seen Derek [Trucks] and Warren [Haynes], of course, at different jams and stuff, but they don’t come down this way very much and it seems like the last two times they’ve been close down here, Tampa, I believe, I was in Indiana both times so I’ve missed them. So I really haven’t had the chance to see them lately, but I understand, of course I know, how Derek plays, he’s just absolutely kicking butt these days. I’m really proud of that guy. Everybody was worried about him when he was really young, “What’s he going to develop into? Of course he can play these Duane licks but what’s going to happen?” And he really has shined and I’ve very proud to know him and to have known him since he was about eight years old. His dad is just a great guy and I love him to death. But I don’t see them that much, I don’t get to see them enough, you know? When you get older, I don’t know how old you are young man, but–

You’ll find out that when you get older, a lot of your friends that you’ve run around with and stuff, when you split up and go different ways and do things, you just lose contact. I mean, I started playing with Dickey again in 2002. And prior to rejoining the band, I hadn’t talked to Dickey in 11 years. We live in the same town, but I had not seen him. I mean there were just so many times I’d be out playing somewhere and he’d be on the road. Once in a great while we’d run across each other, “Let’s go play golf!” And I’ve only beat him about two times and I want to beat him again, I need to get him again. He’s up on me, I gotta get back even. [Laughs.]"

I also thought maybe the band steered away from alums, but pretty sure Chuck and Jimmy played so scratch that theory.

I think it was Dickey's 'rule' that no exes could sit in with the band. It wasn't until the Summer 2000 tour that you had Warren and Woody sitting in a couple times, and then the 2001 Beacon run and Chuck began making regular appearances. Same with Jackie P. and Jimmy Herring. Johnny Neel. Even Keith England sat in at Chastain in Atlanta a few years back (2008?). I don't think any of this began to happen until 2000 and later.

I always found it curious why the Toler Brothers and Goldflies and even Lawler were never invited to sit in. Not necessarily at the Beacon, but at all.

If I had to wager a guess, it would be as far the ABB powers that be were concerned Dangerous Dan was in the Dickey Betts Band even if he wasn't. And if Dan was in Dickey's band and the invitation had been extended, he probably would've declined deferring to Dickey. Everybody knows that Dickey should've been there, but ... that didn't happen. And now .., 🙁

Good points Zambi and Charlesinator. Warren, Woody and Johnny Neel all sat in with the band in Summer 2000 so it seemed clear alumni were being intentionally welcomed back. In 2001, Chuck did the Beacon + Atlanta.

Alumni for whatever reason didn't play with the band in the 1990s, so Dan was not alone. Not long after the alumni door was opened, Dan was then playing with Dickey. It seems that 2009 could have / should have worked out since Dan was out of Great Southern by then (but then again Jackie P who was in great standing with the band during that period didn't play the Beacon either!).

I would have liked to have seen Dan get up there and play with the guys.

The other good point was the ABB wanting to purposely distance themselves from the Arista years pretty much since 1989. Even Enlightened Rogues songs got extremely limited play (I happened to see a rare performance of both Just Ain't Easy and Need Your Love So Bad about 10 years ago).

I actually started listening to the arista years again as I have listened to the class Brothers songs over and over..DDT deserves more credit as a musician.

but then again Jackie P who was in great standing with the band during that period didn't play the Beacon either!).

Might have just been a logistics issue since Jack sat in, and even filled in, with the allman Brothers many times over the past decade plus. Last Fall's Les Brers tour may be the only time I recall Jack playing in the north east during that time.

I also thought maybe the band steered away from alums, but pretty sure Chuck and Jimmy played so scratch that theory.

I think it was Dickey's 'rule' that no exes could sit in with the band. It wasn't until the Summer 2000 tour that you had Warren and Woody sitting in a couple times, and then the 2001 Beacon run and Chuck began making regular appearances. Same with Jackie P. and Jimmy Herring. Johnny Neel. Even Keith England sat in at Chastain in Atlanta a few years back (2008?). I don't think any of this began to happen until 2000 and later.

I always found it curious why the Toler Brothers and Goldflies and even Lawler were never invited to sit in. Not necessarily at the Beacon, but at all.

Jack sat in during the Summer of 99 after he had left and while Dickey was still in the band.

but then again Jackie P who was in great standing with the band during that period didn't play the Beacon either!).

Might have just been a logistics issue since Jack sat in, and even filled in, with the allman Brothers many times over the past decade plus. Last Fall's Les Brers tour may be the only time I recall Jack playing in the north east during that time.

Jack sat in twice in October of 2009 so he was part of year long celebration of 40 years as it were. I agree, it was logistics. Jack travelling to NY to play a song or two in March likely didn't make sense for him. When they were in his neck of the woods, he was there. I'm sure had Warren fallen ill or something and they needed someone to cover 2 or 3 gigs in Beacon 09 run, Jack would have been on the very short list of calls they'd have made.

Jack sat in during the Summer of 99 after he had left and while Dickey was still in the band.

Good catch!! July 4th in Nashville. I had no idea. That's the first of the former bandmembers sitting in that I am aware during Dickey's tenure.

Jack sat in during the Summer of 99 after he had left and while Dickey was still in the band.

Good catch!! July 4th in Nashville. I had no idea. That's the first of the former bandmembers sitting in that I am aware during Dickey's tenure.

I think it's the only one - I'm not aware of any others - depending on how you view the '86 shows I suppose. I don't think those gigs in '86 count - they are more a one-off (two-off?) of which Chuck and Dan Toler were part of the band as it were at the time rather than ex-members guesting. I suppose even Jaimo was technically an ex-member in '86. It's too difficult to parse - let's leave '86 out of it.

Dan was a great player. That said, he sounded a lot like Dickey Betts, so ... not much to be gained with a sit-in. Just sayin'.

And while Dan did sound a lot like DB in the late 70s / 80s, he didn't much at all by the 2000s (IMO). After seeing him in the reived Great Southern, I stated that it was hard to believe he was ever in the ABB, because his style was so different (and not in a bad way).

And while Dan did sound a lot like DB in the late 70s / 80s, he didn't much at all by the 2000s (IMO). After seeing him in the reived Great Southern, I stated that it was hard to believe he was ever in the ABB, because his style was so different (and not in a bad way).

Totally true, I have a hard time telling Dickey and Dan apart at times on Enlightened Rogues. Dan switched to a Strat and a much more busy style by the time he rejoined Great Southern so it was impossible to confuse them. It was cool to see the two of them playing together again, but I didn't think Dan's tone meshed well, but I am admittedly a little biased against Strats. I think the Duane Betts/Andy lineup sounded the best, though I did dig him having a Kris Jensen's horn in the band when they first started.

OK....this Dangerous Dan talk has me pulling out Dickey Betts Collectors #1. Good CD (and finally the perfect approach and arrangement of One Stop Be-bop aka JJs Alley):

Danny plays BWIABegins on the 2004 Falls Church Va. CD, like it was his own -- a great version of this song
speaking of Collectors, one of my FaVoRite back to back listens is Dickey & DDT's Willy & Po' Bob, at the end of Collectors -- followed by Warren & Derek's Old Friend, at the end of HTN --
Great to see the props for Danny

OK....this Dangerous Dan talk has me pulling out Dickey Betts Collectors #1. Good CD (and finally the perfect approach and arrangement of One Stop Be-bop aka JJs Alley):

That "Tangled Up in Blue" is my favorite version of that song. I really wish that would have turned out to become a series, Dickey's acoustic side is still untapped. But, artists only create what they want to create. Instead we got the same live album 4 times in a row. Still looking forward to #2 but I very much doubt Dickey will get back in a studio ever again. Though maybe his guest appearance on that ragtime blues dude's album will inspire him...

Dan is probably the most under appreciated player in the ABB. I too saw Dan in the early 2000s with Dickey Betts & Great Southern. His style was much different from the ABB and GAB days.

Some tend to see the Enlightened Rogues and two Arista albums as one period in the band's history. I always reviewed the Enlightened Rogues album and tour as a carrying on of the traditional ABB, and the two Arista albums and tours as going in a wrong direction. Dan's playing on the Enlightened Rogues album and tour was awesome.

Too bad Dan and David Goldflies did not play at the Beacon on the 45 anniversary. A live extended version of Pegasus would have been nice.

Dan is probably the most under appreciated player in the ABB. I too saw Dan in the early 2000s with Dickey Betts & Great Southern. His style was much different from the ABB and GAB days.

Some tend to see the Enlightened Rogues and two Arista albums as one period in the band's history. I always reviewed the Enlightened Rogues album and tour as a carrying on of the traditional ABB, and the two Arista albums and tours as going in a wrong direction. Dan's playing on the Enlightened Rogues album and tour was awesome.

Too bad Dan and David Goldflies did not play at the Beacon on the 45 anniversary. A live extended version of Pegasus would have been nice.

Well yes since Dan died before then it really was too bad.

Dan is probably the most under appreciated player in the ABB. I too saw Dan in the early 2000s with Dickey Betts & Great Southern. His style was much different from the ABB and GAB days.

Some tend to see the Enlightened Rogues and two Arista albums as one period in the band's history. I always reviewed the Enlightened Rogues album and tour as a carrying on of the traditional ABB, and the two Arista albums and tours as going in a wrong direction. Dan's playing on the Enlightened Rogues album and tour was awesome.

Too bad Dan and David Goldflies did not play at the Beacon on the 45 anniversary. A live extended version of Pegasus would have been nice.

It would've been nice for DDT & Rook to be invited to a Beacon gig at some point -- always would've loved to see So Long, which Dan co-wrote w/Gregg, onstage -- it's 1 of my favorite ABB tunes

to me, EnRogues was more, the ABB jumping in on what DB & GS -- Dickey, Danny & David -- had done on their 1st 2 records -- Rogues is more that to my ears than the traditional ABB sound -- & as you said, no resemblance to the 2 arista records

[Edited on 3/4/2017 by Stephen]