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Rusty
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prices are all relative to what everything else costs

I am paying 440 a ticket for my seats to a first round NY Ranger playoff game and should they make the finals, the FACE value on the ticket is 1,025

I ate in a great NYC restaurant for dinner with my wife and the bill was $600 with one bottle of wine

So 200 for a concert ticket does not seem extravagant. Understood that many folks are priced out of the market but the prices are in line with everything else out there and even cheap comparatively speaking

$600.00 for dinner?

I sincerely hope that you don't take this personally, but it seems as though you just might be enjoying a higher income bracket or financial status than the average music fan. I am happy for you and hope that you feel blessed.

They say you only go around life once - grab all the gusto you can. Folks can spend their hard earned (or however they came by it) money at their own discretion. For me, personally - anything above the $175.00 or so range (I have splurged a few times for ABB Beacon - but not much more than this) is a personal limit. I could afford to go a little higher, but personal priorities and sensibilities keep me from it.

Beyond costs - I just will not go to a football stadium sized venue for any show. I've been to a number of them - none of which have made any sort of top 10 (or top 100) concert experiences.

But to each his own.

To sound really whiny, it seems that a lot of real music fans are just getting priced out. Not me, personally but a lot of them. Just sayin'.


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 8:05 am
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i dont disagree with you at all. You are correct in all respects.

People are getting priced out of everything. I am just saying that prices are not out of line by what people are paying for other types of entertainment. I am fortunate to be able to afford things and yes 600 for dinner (for 2 people ) is not something to be done often but the places that cost that much are completely packed and booked months in advance like a sold out concert.

Hockey tickets are ridiculous as i would guess are NBA tickets and US Open tickets etc. There is a secondary market that is huge for these events. This conversation has been had time and again but i don't hold it against Townsend or Jaggar or any of the others to profit for their enormous talent based on what everything else costs.


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 8:25 am
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I wonder, going forward, are the band members the brand or the music they wrote? if the music is the brand then all of these bands may continue for a very long time by gathering the right musicians. like Bhawk said, gene simmons is planning just that. is this a good thing for future fans, not even born yet? could KISS or GD or ABB or The WHO still be playing under those circumstances in say 20-30 years?


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 8:39 am
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I think it says a lot that we are still talking about Richards, Daltrey, Townshend, Jagger - but then again we are still talking about Gene Simmons too, sigh.

Incidentally, celebritynetworth.com lists the following (taken with a grain of salt) :

Jagger $360 million
Richards $340 million
Townshend $145 million
Daltrey $65 million
Entwistle $50 million at time of death
Kenney Jones $20 million

Gregg Allman $15 million
Dickey Betts $40 million

Warren Haynes $13 million

Eric Clapton $250 million

Mark Knopfler $95 million

Ronnie Wood $90 million

Gene Simmons $300 million


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 9:04 am
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i dont disagree with you at all. You are correct in all respects.

People are getting priced out of everything. I am just saying that prices are not out of line by what people are paying for other types of entertainment. I am fortunate to be able to afford things and yes 600 for dinner (for 2 people ) is not something to be done often but the places that cost that much are completely packed and booked months in advance like a sold out concert.

Hockey tickets are ridiculous as i would guess are NBA tickets and US Open tickets etc. There is a secondary market that is huge for these events. This conversation has been had time and again but i don't hold it against Townsend or Jaggar or any of the others to profit for their enormous talent based on what everything else costs.

I agree that it isn't just music. Hockey tickets are nuts. I was lucky to get tickets for one Caps game this year from the wife's work. I had a great time but didn't make the effort for more than the one game. Other than that football tickets, even for the horrific Redskins, are also sky high.

If you break down the cost by minute I'm guessing a playoff hockey game is more expensive than a Who concert.


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 9:23 am
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Continuing on:

#1: Paul McCartney Net Worth – $1.2 Billion (The Beatles)
#2: Bono Net Worth – $600 Million (U2)
#3: Elton John Net Worth – $450 Million (Solo)
#4: Jimmy Buffett Net Worth – $400 Million
#5: Mick Jagger Net Worth – $360 Million (The Rolling Stones)
#6: Gene Simmons Net Worth – $300 Million (KISS)
#7: Sting Net Worth – $300 Million (The Police, Solo)
#8: Prince Net Worth – $300 Million
#9: Jon Bon Jovi Net Worth – $300 Million (Bon Jovi)
#10: Bruce Springsteen Net Worth – $300 Million (The E Street Band)
#11: Roger Waters Net Worth – $270 Million (Pink Floyd)
#12: Dave Grohl Net Worth – $260 Million (Foo Fighters, Nirvana on drums)
#13: Dave Matthews Net Worth – $250 Million (Dave Matthews Band)
#14: Phil Collins Net Worth – $250 Million (Genesis, Solo)
#15: Eric Clapton Net Worth – $250 Million (Cream, Solo)
#16: Rod Stewart Net Worth – $235 Million
#17: David Bowie Net Worth – $230 Million
#18: Ozzy Osbourne Net Worth – $220 Million (Black Sabbath, Solo)
#19: Don Henley Net Worth – $200 Million (The Eagles, Solo)
#20: Lionel Richie Net Worth – $200 Million (Commodores, Solo)
#21: Bob Dylan Net Worth – $180 Million
#22: Billy Joel Net Worth – $180 Million
#23: James Hetfield Net Worth – $175 Million (Metallica)
#24: George Michael Net Worth – $175 Million (Wham!, Solo)
#25: Robert Plant Net Worth – $170 Million (Led Zeppelin)
#26: Axl Rose Net Worth – $150 Million (Guns N' Roses)
#27: David Gilmour Net Worth – $140 Million (Pink Floyd)
#28: Steven Tyler Net Worth – $130 Million (Aerosmith)
#29: Paul Stanley Net Worth – $125 Million (KISS)
#30: Anthony Kiedis Net Worth – $120 Million (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
#31: Sammy Hagar Net Worth – $120 Million (Van Halen)
#32: Bruce Dickinson Net Worth – $115 Million (Iron Maiden)
#33: Gwen Stefani Net Worth – $100 Million (No Doubt, Solo)
#34: Brian Johnson Net Worth – $90 Million (AC/DC)
#35: Chris Martin Net Worth – $90 Million (Coldplay)
#36: Eddie Vedder Net Worth – $90 Million (Pearl Jam)
#37: Kid Rock Net Worth – $80 Million
#38: Brian Wilson Net Worth – $75 Million (The Beach Boys)
#39: Michael Stipe Net Worth – $75 Million (R.E.M.)
#40: Trey Anastasio Net Worth – $75 Million (Phish)
#41: Tom Petty Net Worth – $75 Million (Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers)
#42: Stevie Nicks Net Worth – $75 Million (Fleetwood Mac, Solo)
#43: Joe Elliott Net Worth – $70 Million (Def Leppard)
#44: Peter Gabriel Net Worth – $70 Million (Genesis, Solo)
#45: Glenn Frey Net Worth – $70 Million (The Eagles, Solo)
#46: Trent Reznor Net Worth – $70 Million (Nine Inch Nails)
#47: John Fogerty Net Worth – $68 Million (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
#48: Roger Daltrey Net Worth – $65 Million (The Who)
#49: Neil Young Net Worth – $65 Million
#50: Joe Walsh Net Worth – $65 Million (The Eagles, Solo)
#51: Chris Cornell Net Worth – $60 Million (Soundgarden, Audioslave)
#52: Mark Hoppus Net Worth – $60 Million (Blink 182)
#53: Tom DeLonge Net Worth – $60 Million (Blink 182)
#54: Liam Gallagher Net Worth – $60 Million (Oasis)
#55: Chad Kroeger Net Worth – $60 Million (Nickelback)
#56: Billie Joe Armstrong Net Worth – $55 Million (Green Day)
#57: Vince Neil Net Worth – $50 Million (Motley Crue)
#58: Billy Corgan Net Worth – $50 Million (Smashing Pumpkins)
#59: Perry Farrell Net Worth – $50 Million (Jane's Addiction)
#60: Steve Perry Net Worth – $45 Million (Journey)
#61: Jon Anderson Net Worth – $45 Million (Yes)
#62: Maynard James Keenan Net Worth – $45 Million (Tool)
#63: Jonathan Davis Net Worth – $45 Million (Korn)
#64: David Gahan Net Worth – $45 Million (Depeche Mode)
#65: David Lee Roth Net Worth – $40 Million (Van Halen)
#66: David Byrne Net Worth – $40 Million (Talking Heads)
#67: Jared Leto Net Worth – $40 Million (30 Seconds to Mars)
#68: Thom Yorke Net Worth – $35 Million (Radiohead)
#69: Pat Benatar Net Worth – $32 Million
#70: Jack White Net Worth – $30 Million (The White Stripes)
#71: Peter Frampton Net Worth – $30 Million (Humble Pie, Solo)
#72: Geddy Lee Net Worth – $28 Million (Rush)
#73: Marilyn Manson Net Worth -$25 Million
#74: Zack de la Rocha Net Worth – $25 Million (Rage Against the Machine)
#75: Rob Halford Net Worth – $25 Million (Judas Priest)
#76: Chester Bennington Net Worth – $25 Million (Linkin Park)
#77: Sully Erna Net Worth – $25 Million(Godsmack)
#78: Dave Mustaine Net Worth – $20 Million (Metallica, Megadeath)
#79: Ian Anderson Net Worth – $20 Million (Jethro Tull)
#80: Fred Durst Net Worth – $20 Million (Limp Bizkit)
#81: Gregg Allman Net Worth – $15 Million (Allman Brothers)
#82: Bret Michaels Net Worth – $15 Million (Poison)
#83: Tom Araya Net Worth – $14 Million (Slayer)
#84: Jacoby Shaddix Net Worth – $12 Million (Papa Roach)
#85: Geoff Tate Net Worth: $10 Million (Queensrÿche)
#86: Scott Weiland Net Worth – $10 Million (Stone Temple Pilots)
#87: David Draiman Net Worth – $10 Million (Disturbed)
#88: Phil Anselmo Net Worth – $8 Million (Pantera)


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 9:45 am
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... If you break down the cost by minute I'm guessing a playoff hockey game is more expensive than a Who concert.

Yeah, but the fights are free so it's basically a two-fer.


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 10:04 am
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#11: Roger Waters Net Worth – $270 Million (Pink Floyd)

#27: David Gilmour Net Worth – $140 Million (Pink Floyd)

"Alright, fine, David. You can have the name. I'll keep The Wall."

Smart choice, Roger, smart choice... 😛


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 11:26 am
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Going to The Garden and sitting in new Blue seats ( 400's ) for The Ranger game tonight and the rest of the playoffs. Price tonight is $ 90.00 and goes up to $ 217.00 for The Stanley Cup Finals.
For The October Beacon run I paid anywhere from $ 150.00- 450.00 for the 4 shows I saw. My wife thinks I'm nuts for spending money on any of these activities. Doesn't matter whether it's The Rangers or The Brothers, I can't win. She wants me to save money so we can one day retire from the workforce. I understand her point, but im still going to do what I want to do. Brothers get back together i'll overpay to go see them. Rangers advance to The Stanley Cup Finals i'll look up at the sky and thank the almighty for another opportunity to see The Rangers win a Cup.


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 12:14 pm
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Going to The Garden and sitting in new Blue seats ( 400's ) for The Ranger game tonight and the rest of the playoffs. Price tonight is $ 90.00 and goes up to $ 217.00 for The Stanley Cup Finals.
For The October Beacon run I paid anywhere from $ 150.00- 450.00 for the 4 shows I saw. My wife thinks I'm nuts for spending money on any of these activities. Doesn't matter whether it's The Rangers or The Brothers, I can't win. She wants me to save money so we can one day retire from the workforce. I understand her point, but im still going to do what I want to do. Brothers get back together i'll overpay to go see them. Rangers advance to The Stanley Cup Finals i'll look up at the sky and thank the almighty for another opportunity to see The Rangers win a Cup.

Way to go rayg! I wish you the best in retirement and in living your life.

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#11: Roger Waters Net Worth – $270 Million (Pink Floyd)

#27: David Gilmour Net Worth – $140 Million (Pink Floyd)

"Alright, fine, David. You can have the name. I'll keep The Wall."

Smart choice, Roger, smart choice...

It didn't work out as well for Peter Gabriel. Of course he didn't have The Wall.


 
Posted : April 16, 2015 1:24 pm
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It didn't work out as well for Peter Gabriel. Of course he didn't have The Wall.

Collins' solo work I'm assuming catapults him up so high, especially in the 80s. No Jacket Required sold 30 million worldwide, Gabriel's So sold 8 million.

Funny, though, as time has gone by, No Jacket Required gets dismissed as 80s pop schmaltz while So is considered worthy enough to be on a list of best albums ever. So, in an artistic sense, Peter got some measure of revenge...:P


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 6:16 am
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I wonder, going forward, are the band members the brand or the music they wrote? if the music is the brand then all of these bands may continue for a very long time by gathering the right musicians. like Bhawk said, gene simmons is planning just that. is this a good thing for future fans, not even born yet? could KISS or GD or ABB or The WHO still be playing under those circumstances in say 20-30 years?

I often think about symphonies, all the masters that wrote all those great works still have their music played hundreds of years later. 100, 200, 300 years from now, will musicians playing electric guitars, bass, drums and keyboards be "symphonies" in an updated way?


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 6:19 am
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I wonder, going forward, are the band members the brand or the music they wrote? if the music is the brand then all of these bands may continue for a very long time by gathering the right musicians. like Bhawk said, gene simmons is planning just that. is this a good thing for future fans, not even born yet? could KISS or GD or ABB or The WHO still be playing under those circumstances in say 20-30 years?

I often think about symphonies, all the masters that wrote all those great works still have their music played hundreds of years later. 100, 200, 300 years from now, will musicians playing electric guitars, bass, drums and keyboards be "symphonies" in an updated way?

That's food for thought.

I was living in NYC during the mid eighties. I was catching a lot of East Coast Grateful Dead shows as well as many other great acts. It was a fertile time for live shows. One day a friend asked me if I wanted to go see Vivaldi's "La Stravaganza" at Alice Tulley Hall. I was game, it wasn't my first symphony, and we grabbed the Number 1 train to the Upper West Side.

I knew the symphony pretty well but was surprised when I read in the program that Vivaldi used to play with such improvisational furor that the audience would often run away in terror.

I immediately saw a connection to some of the Grateful Dead shows I'd attended.

Now I have a nephew who plays baroque cello. He and I often discuss classical music and he regularly sends me listening lists. I've let him know that, as much as I enjoy the symphony, I miss the magic of improvisation.

He says there is a new generation of classical musicians who are moving in that direction. I hope that is the case. I feel bold improvisational choices would open the symphony up to a larger audience.

Would future rock and roll symphonies allow for improvisation?


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 6:51 am
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I wonder, going forward, are the band members the brand or the music they wrote? if the music is the brand then all of these bands may continue for a very long time by gathering the right musicians. like Bhawk said, gene simmons is planning just that. is this a good thing for future fans, not even born yet? could KISS or GD or ABB or The WHO still be playing under those circumstances in say 20-30 years?

I often think about symphonies, all the masters that wrote all those great works still have their music played hundreds of years later. 100, 200, 300 years from now, will musicians playing electric guitars, bass, drums and keyboards be "symphonies" in an updated way?

That's food for thought.

I was living in NYC during the mid eighties. I was catching a lot of East Coast Grateful Dead shows as well as many other great acts. It was a fertile time for live shows. One day a friend asked me if I wanted to go see Vivaldi's "La Stravaganza" at Alice Tulley Hall. I was game, it wasn't my first symphony, and we grabbed the Number 1 train to the Upper West Side.

I knew the symphony pretty well but was surprised when I read in the program that Vivaldi used to play with such improvisational furor that the audience would often run away in terror.

I immediately saw a connection to some of the Grateful Dead shows I'd attended.

Now I have a nephew who plays baroque cello. He and I often discuss classical music and he regularly sends me listening lists. I've let him know that, as much as I enjoy the symphony, I miss the magic of improvisation.

He says there is a new generation of classical musicians who are moving in that direction. I hope that is the case. I feel bold improvisational choices would open the symphony up to a larger audience.

Would future rock and roll symphonies allow for improvisation?

It's pretty hard to play improvisationally when you have all the members of a symphony orchestra, rather than a few members of a rock and roll band. But on the other hand, Warren did some of that with his Jerry Garcia Symphonic celebration.


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 8:52 am
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It's pretty hard to play improvisationally when you have all the members of a symphony orchestra, rather than a few members of a rock and roll band. But on the other hand, Warren did some of that with his Jerry Garcia Symphonic celebration.

Right on. But when Warren played with the symphony only the trio and sometimes the first chair violinist, horn, or conductor soloed. I assume those were improvisational since, in the three shows I saw, the soloist didn't have any sheet music.

That is all I would expect from improvisation in the symphony. That it be limited to the finest players and hopefully composers who were featuring new work.

Back to the topic - I just read a great interview with Pete Townshend in the newest print edition of Rolling Stone. Unfortunately it isn't on the web site yet because it addresses much of what has been discussed in this thread. Hopefully it will be online soon.


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 9:13 am
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Continuing on:

#1: Paul McCartney Net Worth – $1.2 Billion (The Beatles)
#2: Bono Net Worth – $600 Million (U2)
#3: Elton John Net Worth – $450 Million (Solo)
#4: Jimmy Buffett Net Worth – $400 Million
#5: Mick Jagger Net Worth – $360 Million (The Rolling Stones)
#6: Gene Simmons Net Worth – $300 Million (KISS)
#7: Sting Net Worth – $300 Million (The Police, Solo)
#8: Prince Net Worth – $300 Million
#9: Jon Bon Jovi Net Worth – $300 Million (Bon Jovi)
#10: Bruce Springsteen Net Worth – $300 Million (The E Street Band)
#11: Roger Waters Net Worth – $270 Million (Pink Floyd)
#12: Dave Grohl Net Worth – $260 Million (Foo Fighters, Nirvana on drums)
#13: Dave Matthews Net Worth – $250 Million (Dave Matthews Band)
#14: Phil Collins Net Worth – $250 Million (Genesis, Solo)
#15: Eric Clapton Net Worth – $250 Million (Cream, Solo)
#16: Rod Stewart Net Worth – $235 Million
#17: David Bowie Net Worth – $230 Million
#18: Ozzy Osbourne Net Worth – $220 Million (Black Sabbath, Solo)
#19: Don Henley Net Worth – $200 Million (The Eagles, Solo)
#20: Lionel Richie Net Worth – $200 Million (Commodores, Solo)
#21: Bob Dylan Net Worth – $180 Million
#22: Billy Joel Net Worth – $180 Million
#23: James Hetfield Net Worth – $175 Million (Metallica)
#24: George Michael Net Worth – $175 Million (Wham!, Solo)
#25: Robert Plant Net Worth – $170 Million (Led Zeppelin)
#26: Axl Rose Net Worth – $150 Million (Guns N' Roses)
#27: David Gilmour Net Worth – $140 Million (Pink Floyd)
#28: Steven Tyler Net Worth – $130 Million (Aerosmith)
#29: Paul Stanley Net Worth – $125 Million (KISS)
#30: Anthony Kiedis Net Worth – $120 Million (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
#31: Sammy Hagar Net Worth – $120 Million (Van Halen)
#32: Bruce Dickinson Net Worth – $115 Million (Iron Maiden)
#33: Gwen Stefani Net Worth – $100 Million (No Doubt, Solo)
#34: Brian Johnson Net Worth – $90 Million (AC/DC)
#35: Chris Martin Net Worth – $90 Million (Coldplay)
#36: Eddie Vedder Net Worth – $90 Million (Pearl Jam)
#37: Kid Rock Net Worth – $80 Million
#38: Brian Wilson Net Worth – $75 Million (The Beach Boys)
#39: Michael Stipe Net Worth – $75 Million (R.E.M.)
#40: Trey Anastasio Net Worth – $75 Million (Phish)
#41: Tom Petty Net Worth – $75 Million (Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers)
#42: Stevie Nicks Net Worth – $75 Million (Fleetwood Mac, Solo)
#43: Joe Elliott Net Worth – $70 Million (Def Leppard)
#44: Peter Gabriel Net Worth – $70 Million (Genesis, Solo)
#45: Glenn Frey Net Worth – $70 Million (The Eagles, Solo)
#46: Trent Reznor Net Worth – $70 Million (Nine Inch Nails)
#47: John Fogerty Net Worth – $68 Million (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
#48: Roger Daltrey Net Worth – $65 Million (The Who)
#49: Neil Young Net Worth – $65 Million
#50: Joe Walsh Net Worth – $65 Million (The Eagles, Solo)
#51: Chris Cornell Net Worth – $60 Million (Soundgarden, Audioslave)
#52: Mark Hoppus Net Worth – $60 Million (Blink 182)
#53: Tom DeLonge Net Worth – $60 Million (Blink 182)
#54: Liam Gallagher Net Worth – $60 Million (Oasis)
#55: Chad Kroeger Net Worth – $60 Million (Nickelback)
#56: Billie Joe Armstrong Net Worth – $55 Million (Green Day)
#57: Vince Neil Net Worth – $50 Million (Motley Crue)
#58: Billy Corgan Net Worth – $50 Million (Smashing Pumpkins)
#59: Perry Farrell Net Worth – $50 Million (Jane's Addiction)
#60: Steve Perry Net Worth – $45 Million (Journey)
#61: Jon Anderson Net Worth – $45 Million (Yes)
#62: Maynard James Keenan Net Worth – $45 Million (Tool)
#63: Jonathan Davis Net Worth – $45 Million (Korn)
#64: David Gahan Net Worth – $45 Million (Depeche Mode)
#65: David Lee Roth Net Worth – $40 Million (Van Halen)
#66: David Byrne Net Worth – $40 Million (Talking Heads)
#67: Jared Leto Net Worth – $40 Million (30 Seconds to Mars)
#68: Thom Yorke Net Worth – $35 Million (Radiohead)
#69: Pat Benatar Net Worth – $32 Million
#70: Jack White Net Worth – $30 Million (The White Stripes)
#71: Peter Frampton Net Worth – $30 Million (Humble Pie, Solo)
#72: Geddy Lee Net Worth – $28 Million (Rush)
#73: Marilyn Manson Net Worth -$25 Million
#74: Zack de la Rocha Net Worth – $25 Million (Rage Against the Machine)
#75: Rob Halford Net Worth – $25 Million (Judas Priest)
#76: Chester Bennington Net Worth – $25 Million (Linkin Park)
#77: Sully Erna Net Worth – $25 Million(Godsmack)
#78: Dave Mustaine Net Worth – $20 Million (Metallica, Megadeath)
#79: Ian Anderson Net Worth – $20 Million (Jethro Tull)
#80: Fred Durst Net Worth – $20 Million (Limp Bizkit)
#81: Gregg Allman Net Worth – $15 Million (Allman Brothers)
#82: Bret Michaels Net Worth – $15 Million (Poison)
#83: Tom Araya Net Worth – $14 Million (Slayer)
#84: Jacoby Shaddix Net Worth – $12 Million (Papa Roach)
#85: Geoff Tate Net Worth: $10 Million (Queensrÿche)
#86: Scott Weiland Net Worth – $10 Million (Stone Temple Pilots)
#87: David Draiman Net Worth – $10 Million (Disturbed)
#88: Phil Anselmo Net Worth – $8 Million (Pantera)

How can Ringo not show up here? Heard he's worth 300 million


 
Posted : April 17, 2015 5:07 pm
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How can Ringo not show up here? Heard he's worth 300 million

I should have titled that list, it was something I saw that said "highest paid lead singers"


 
Posted : April 18, 2015 3:36 am
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How can Ringo not show up here? Heard he's worth 300 million

I should have titled that list, it was something I saw that said "highest paid lead singers"

He is the lead singer of his band for what it's worth


 
Posted : April 18, 2015 5:46 am
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I chalk the astronomical ticket prices up to music piracy. Bands used to make their big money in the stores; tours were to build up interest in the music. Now the tour itself is the main source of income.

On the other hand if not for the piracy the groups would play live a lot less frequency. If you remember when CD's first came out and everyone "duplicated" their collections the bands were hardly ever on the road.

Some flaws with that. The most obvious being that most of these bands don't even release any new material so no cash loss there. Most fans of these bands already have much of their classic material so no loss there. Also piracy is hardly new. How many here ever taped something from a friend or the radio? A simple look at the Vines/Trades section here is a display of piracy as the vast majority of bands did not allow taping and none of the bands are profiting in any way.

Also the big money has never been made off albums. The two biggest money makers for most bands is the gate and especially merchandise. Bands have always used these to pay back the debts of recording and releasing an album. The tour has always been the main source of income.

These "classic" bands charge outrageous prices because they snorted all the cash that they originally made. 😉 They also know that people will pay as they do tour after tour. These guys laugh at how much they can pull in per show now. Profits from a handful of shows matches what an entire tour used to. Again especially for merchandise where the band's cut is much higher than any other royalties.

They are rich and greedy and making it while they can. That is totally their right and I would likely do the same. But you have to call it what it is - greed. Weeks ago Pete stated yet again that he hates the Who. Mick and Keith can't stand each other. Not about the love of their music, it is just that the offers for a tour are too big to resist.

Piracy has nothing to do with the price of a Who/Stones ticket. It is senior citizens padding their bank accounts.

I agree with both of C Mules post...boils down to making money by touring.. They have every right to do it. Why not, if people keep paying these exorbitant amounts of money. In away , I point the finger at the public who keeps feeding into the high cost of tix prices . People can do whatever they want with they're money, but I have been priced out long ago 🙁 . It's ridiculous annymore.
I have never been desperate enough to buy a ticket from a broker...talk about a racket.
As long as the ticket prices are being met...it wont stop.

Along the same lines in away,brands like Nike,North Face, Columbia,Levis, Hollister,Apple,Starbucks and etc...are all money makers.

Are they're products just as good as others? Thats up for debate. I work with a bunch of people who are 10-15-20 yrs younger then me. Alot have to have the latest apple phone,certain clothing brands or they all wear North Face jackets. None of this is cheap. One mentioned how much a NF fleece jacket cost. I am sure I could have went to Target/Kohls and bought one just the same for probably half the price. All about having that brand, being trendy and keeping up with the Jonses.

Athletes also have a brand to keep up that make them money. Jordan,Manning,Le Bron, Tiger, etc...

Geez..when can I get mine!!!! 😛 😛 😛 😛


Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,

 
Posted : April 20, 2015 2:08 pm
bettyhynes
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...and I have some labels you can sew on for $10 each only,you can put them on the comparable shoes you bought for $20 and you can be part of the cool crowd too..for only $30 saving $100. And while we're at it I can introduce you to a guy out front where you can pay $400 for $100 tickets instead of getting them for $80 out front from someone who's just trying to sell spares,or at the boxoffice before showtime at cost. I could send you to this awesome website where you could pay $600 for seats that cost $100 too...& you can pick your seat. This is the cool & fun way to do things now.


 
Posted : April 21, 2015 2:37 am
Bill_Graham
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For WHO fans there is a new documentary by there managers Lambert and Stamp that looks like it will have some great old footage of the boys in the early days. Coming to select theaters this month

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony/lambertstamp/


 
Posted : April 21, 2015 9:55 am
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