My guess is there wasn't a high demand and Amazon just didn't order a whole lot to begin with and sold out of their supply, so you are right that it probably sold poorly, but not for Amazon as they apparently ordered more than enough on their end.

However on the other side if it sold poorly or lower than Amazon's projections then Amazon would likely have surplus, not an outage. It seems like they sold out of their allotment of it for whatever that's worth.

For anyone wanting it, it looks like Bull Moose has it in stock at all of their stores.

https://www.bullmoose.com/pid/22414559/gregg-allman-laid-back-import-jpn

Lets face it, we're a shrinking demographic.

Lets face it, we're a shrinking demographic.

By the day …...

My question is with Gregg being gone and he most likely the reason this re-issue never hit the market while he was with us......Who profits from this?

My question is with Gregg being gone and he most likely the reason this re-issue never hit the market while he was with us......Who profits from this?

I would guess profits same as before, to the record company and Gregg's cut to his estate, wife and kids draw off that. Nice reissue, I hadn't heard the extras before.

My question is with Gregg being gone and he most likely the reason this re-issue never hit the market while he was with us......Who profits from this?

I would guess profits same as before, to the record company and Gregg's cut to his estate, wife and kids draw off that. Nice reissue, I hadn't heard the extras before.

I am just thinking this is not what Gregg would have wished, All the opportunities while he was alive to have released this music and nothing. He evidently was a perfectionist and was against out-takes, audience recordings etc.. Was not the "One more try anthology" a good example of this?...I also read once that Gregg was in possession of the lyrics Duane had written for "Little Martha"....and did not wish for those to be made public...

I am not using the word in the same sense, but harcore fans definitely profit from such releases.

Kafka had asked his literary agent to burn all of his manuscripts when he died; Emily Dickinson was similar. In both cases, some of the greatest literary treasures exist only because the artist's wishes were not followed posthumously.

I'm not saying I love the idea of trampling on a dead person's wishes; I'm just saying that the world is a richer place at times when that does occur.

I am not using the word in the same sense, but harcore fans definitely profit from such releases.

Kafka had asked his literary agent to burn all of his manuscripts when he died; Emily Dickinson was similar. In both cases, some of the greatest literary treasures exist only because the artist's wishes were not followed posthumously.

I'm not saying I love the idea of trampling on a dead person's wishes; I'm just saying that the world is a richer place at times when that does occur.

Good post Jim , I get what your saying. I don't mean to hijack this thread but I am gonna apply this theory to EVH and all the tape and recordings he has in his studio. I doubt those will ever see the light of day while he is still alive. God forbid if anything happens to him, it will be all Wolfs. Who knows what will happen at that point. He is pretty tight with his Dad and he could respect his fathers wishes and that would be it. Would not blame him one bit.

As I'm closing in on 70 I remember digging into favorite artists and bands to try and understand where their influences came from. I think it would be a logical progression for musicians and fans today to go back and look around as we did. Gregg's Laid Back was a great album in the time it came out. Don't know about many of y'all here, but my wife and I continue to listen to it today and still enjoy it greartly

I doubt anything Allman Brothers sells that well now. That is why the 50th anniversary box set is so expensive. The Dreams box set sold over 300,000 copies. The 50th will be lucky to sell 20,000.

I don't think Fillmore West sold that well either.
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I think, if I remember correctly, Gregg decided to pull One More Try. Wasn't happy with some of the outtakes and deep cuts. And Gregg never wanted the sides he recorded in LA right before he traveled back to Florida to join the ABB released.
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And he revealed he never liked his singing on the first ABB album. Regretted he didn't tell the producer he wanted to do them over. Personally I'm fine with Gregg's singing on Dreams on the first album.

I'm fine with Gregg's singing on Dreams on the first album.

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As I'm closing in on 70 I remember digging into favorite artists and bands to try and understand where their influences came from. I think it would be a logical progression for musicians and fans today to go back and look around as we did. Gregg's Laid Back was a great album in the time it came out. Don't know about many of y'all here, but my wife and I continue to listen to it today and still enjoy it greartly

I've got the original plus plenty of ABB/Gregg etc. albums. Along with all my other music, I can barely listen to what I have. Never say never but I'm done buying re-issues from any artist. As the 75 year old man who I met at the cd booth at the local music festival said to me, "Play your music. If I tried to play all mine 24/7, I'll be dead before I could listen to it all."

Wonderful posts! Yep am the same way, a lotta stuff I have, often it’s like hearing it for the first time come spinning time - still would like to pick up 2-3 CDs, like the new Sun Ra one by Barrence Whitfield, the Big Band Of Brothers one, also Chuck’s Chuck Gets Big big band one

But by & large, yep, what you’re saying

Hey StratDal, I appreciate your post and know exactly what you mean. I've been cataloging my conservative cd collection recently. I'm at 1233 with a few hundred more to go. Having looked at each one so as to type properly, I've seen some that were long forgotten. I couldn't begin to guess how long it might take to listen to them all. Five years ago, prior to relocating to Texas, I ditched another probably 500, mostly audience recorded live shows. Just can't keep everything when downsizing. I've found that my collection is a partial story of my life.

My question is with Gregg being gone and he most likely the reason this re-issue never hit the market while he was with us......Who profits from this?

I'm still wondering how Mercury is listed as the label. It was sold so many times, folded into Universal/Island Def Jam, & I thought it disappeared when IDJ split into country & hip hop w/different management/different locations.

Plus, the unreleased "extras" may never have been under contract to Mercury unless it was so broad as to cover "all masters recorded in X studio during Y period."

I'm sure this remastered w/bonus is great, but I'm fine w/the original.

I'm fine with Gregg's singing on Dreams on the first album.

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X3, & on the demo included on the Dreams box too - great alternative version w/the wah wah guitar, the congas.... sounds like Dickey’s wah wah pedal to me altho he isn’t on the official version from the first record - Gregg said in his book that “all the guitar playing you hear on Dreams is Duane’s”

Love Laid Back, Gregg opened his shows from then w/Don’t Mess Up A Good Thing - & yes, the Dreams from that tour, w/the full orchestra & Tommy Talton’s slide playing, is Special - right there w/the Brewer Fieldhouse & 9/19/71 Stonybrook versions

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Never say never but I'm done buying re-issues from any artist.

I'm with you. As a longtime ABB fan. I have it all and don't really see the need spending $$ on stuff I already own in one form or another.

Are there tracks in the "Vault" that were recorded and not "good enough" for release?...Songs we had no idea they had worked on?....I am in.

Are there live shows from the Duane era with cuts like below on the same show:

Every Hungry Woman
Please call home
Leave my blues at home
Dimples
etc.

I am in.

New "Live" film footage?

I am in. Until then, this seems like nothing more than a cash grab benefiting the "Estate"...No thanks

. . . this seems like nothing more than a cash grab benefiting the "Estate"...

Or maybe it is just a real nice new deluxe edition of the material for folks who don't have it, have worn out their old media, maybe want to give as a gift to someone just getting into the band or to turn someone on to this rich music legacy .

I was very happy with the Laid Back remasters, I didn't have that record on cd.

[Edited on 1/16/2020 by BrerRabbit]

For anyone wanting it, it looks like Bull Moose has it in stock at all of their stores.

https://www.bullmoose.com/pid/22414559/gregg-allman-laid-back-import-jpn

Cool site, Thanks. Just ordered a "Live" Little Feat show from 1978

. . . this seems like nothing more than a cash grab benefiting the "Estate"...

Or maybe it is just a real nice new deluxe edition of the material for folks who don't have it, have worn out their old media, maybe want to give as a gift to someone just getting into the band or to turn someone on to this rich music legacy .

I was very happy with the Laid Back remasters, I didn't have that record on cd.

Seeing a re-release of Laid Back as a "cash grab" is pretty jaded way to look at it. Fans were asking for a re-release of One More Try for years, which probably isn't going to happen, so this is the next best thing. Re-packaging popular albums that everyone has like Dark Side of the Moon or Sgt Pepper is an attempt to squeeze more money out of those properties, but I doubt re-releasing and re-mastering a moderately popular album like Laid Back will get anyone a new house. Seemed like a nice gift to diehard fans, or a nice way to introduce the album to a new generation of fans.

IMHO - The "Laid Back" CD remaster was on of the bigger sound improvements over the original CD of any album in my collection.

I always felt like the songs and musicianship were great. But the older CD didn't sound as good as even the original cassette or vinyl.

Good points raised by Porkchop and CB.

I do not have an audiophile's ear, but I do know that some CDs that came out have really benefitted from remastering. It would be a good question to consider - what remasters really do noticeably improve the album?

Overall, with these re-issues, for me the thing is bonus tracks. I will pay extra for music that I did not have; that is more important to me than improved sound. I do not care about posters, stickers, or other "bonus" non-musical stuff. I appreciate well-crafted booklets, but ....

I was VERY disappointed by the Rolling Stones deluxe re-issues of Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed. No bonus tracks? No thanks.

But for the fan who wants collectible items, maybe those re-issues are great. And maybe they sound a lot better.

For anyone wanting it, it looks like Bull Moose has it in stock at all of their stores.

https://www.bullmoose.com/pid/22414559/gregg-allman-laid-back-import-jpn

Cool site, Thanks. Just ordered a "Live" Little Feat show from 1978

I love Bull Moose, always get great service there.

Stephen. I wonder if Gregg remembered that about Dickey and Dreams correctly. He probably did since it's his song and Gregg absolutely sings and plays on the song. In early 1970 when a friend named Sandy Booze ( and he lived up to his name) talked me into going to see the band ( Sandy had the first album and played it for me but I didnt get my switch flipped until I saw them live) the world back then was Dickey almost didnt play on the first album at all because the studio in New York didnt have any windows in the adjacent rooms. ( often when I stay in New York I'm put on a floor so high up a window wouldn't be a way of escape).Story went Duane left to talk with Dickey and Duane had people posted they knew to keep an eye on any fire or threat that may develope and sound the alarm. After some time Dickey came in with Duane and they went to work. We never heard anything about a track Dickey isn't on.. Jaimoe isn't on Whipping Post but practically every album has a track or more without Jaimoe. (Jaimoe is on Wipping Post on Fillmore East and all the tracks) It could be they recorded Dreams before Duane got Dickey in there. Gregg should know and he is probably correct but we use to hear when they went in to do Please Call Home they just left Dickey out of the studio and recorded Please Call Home without Dickey because they were just doing one song and it didn't have a lot guitar solos. And that track was produced by Joel Doren.

For the rest of Idlewild South, they got Tom Dowd and moved to Capricorn in Macon. The band had so many shows in 1970 (307 is the number we use to hear) they recorded Idlewild South in several mini sessions. Plus Tom Dowd didnt like the studio in Macon so much of Idlewild South was recorded in Miami, Florida at Criteria.

To me the tone of the guitar in the right channel sounds like Dickey on Dreams but Duane could easily duplicate it.

The only thing Dickey ever said about that track is Duane was very proud of his long solo and that it is very good.

As I'm closing in on 70 I remember digging into favorite artists and bands to try and understand where their influences came from. I think it would be a logical progression for musicians and fans today to go back and look around as we did. Gregg's Laid Back was a great album in the time it came out. Don't know about many of y'all here, but my wife and I continue to listen to it today and still enjoy it greartly

I've got the original plus plenty of ABB/Gregg etc. albums. Along with all my other music, I can barely listen to what I have. Never say never but I'm done buying re-issues from any artist. As the 75 year old man who I met at the cd booth at the local music festival said to me, "Play your music. If I tried to play all mine 24/7, I'll be dead before I could listen to it all."

LOL, the guy hit it out of the park but I keep buying and ripping like a smack addict ...

[Edited on 1/20/2020 by DeadMallard]

LOL, the guy hit it out of the park but I keep buying and ripping like a smack addict ...

"If it's music, it isn't hoarding."