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The Allman Brothers Band LIVE at Pine Knob Music Theater August 22, 1999

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Posted : May 23, 2020 7:18 pm
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Wow...thanks for this! That was a TITANIC Jessica, wow


 
Posted : May 24, 2020 6:38 am
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deeply grateful you posted this.


 
Posted : May 24, 2020 9:55 am
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Wow, thanks for posting, never seen this one before! Great tone by Dickey on that strat! Awesome first set, gonna save set 2 for later.


 
Posted : May 24, 2020 9:58 am
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Set I
True Gravity
Ain't Wastin' Time No More
You Don't Love Me
Good Times (Don't Fade Away)
Statesboro Blues
What's Done Is Done
Blue Sky

Set II
Seven Turns(acoustic)
Melissa(acoustic)
Jessica
Change My Way of Living
Dreams
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed
Revival

Encore:
Ramblin' Man
No One to Run With


 
Posted : May 24, 2020 10:33 am
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Listened/watched the whole show via Bluetooth while gardening; few thoughts... Dickey REALLY got it going bout halfway into 1st (not including that monster True Gravity opener!?!? What?!! Sick...even though he cut Derek off as he was entering orbit hahaha). Got a lil pitchy w some of those sharp bends of his which he did a lot of post-96...but whatever. Not a huge fan of the Strat-era...that tone could be quite shrill, particularly when he gets bend-happy. Way fatter tone w his Paul(s). Not a huge fan of Dickey using his wah....there’s possibly zero ABB material that benefits from it and it should NEVER be used during Ain’t Wasting Time NO More...I’m sure Gregg loved that lol. Lastly, thanks again for this treasure. Don’t know where it came from but this era isn’t heavily documented and as a whole...this is close to as good as the brief Derek/Dickey era got imo! Dreams was stunning!!! 2nd set was just insane....what a treat. Long live The Allman Brothers Band!!!!!!


 
Posted : May 24, 2020 10:43 am
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The 3 1999 shows I saw were a little more sharp than this. Especially the Las Vegas show which was when I saw Susan for the first time. She opened and I had never heard of her. Played a blue Telecaster with signatures all over it. Some of this show used to be on YouTube as Nascar Rocks with the ABB. Extremely hot Blue Sky and Ramblin Man. Just after that leg of the tour is when Butch wrote on his blog or this website site that Derek had Dickey so inspired that he is playing the best right now in years. And Gregg was spooked. Derek reminded Gregg and Dickey so much of Duane Allman that the band is really cranking.

Dickey may be a little in the bag on this show which is apparently from the second leg. I say that because he sounds just a bit on the sause when he sings.

Dickey played his Goldie Les Paul at the Beacon some in 1999. He had gotten it back from the R&R Hall of Fame and painted it red because it turned a puke green the several years it sat in Cleveland on display. But the 3 shows I saw after Derek joined, Dickey was back on his 56 Strat hardtail.

I saw that guitar up close earlier this year in Blacksburg, Virginia at an Allman Betts show before their tour got canceled by the virus. Duane Betts uses it on a couple of songs just as he did in Dawes. The Strat looks cool and pretty from a distance but up close it really has road wear. Especially on the neck and on the body where your right arm touches the top of the body when you are picking. They said Dickey bought it used 30 or 40 years ago apparently for rhythm playing in the studio then in 1997 began using it in shows. In the 2000s with Great Southern it became his electric slide guitar. Someone in the 50's, 60's, and 70's played it a lot!!


 
Posted : May 24, 2020 12:33 pm
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Yeah pops42. I remember after the first leg of summer 1999 Butch posted online about how Derek got the band rejuvenated and Dickey was playing the best right now he had in years and Gregg was spooked and both Gregg and Dickey are reminded so much of Duane Allman by the way Derek plays slide and even the way he stands sometimes and he plays with such maturity. Gregg felt an old soul was in Derek.

Too bad that enthusiasm didn't last long. In less than a year Butch and Gregg were going to quit.


 
Posted : May 24, 2020 5:45 pm
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I will have to listen to the whole thing. I listened to bits and pieces and thought it sounded very weak as Gregg sounded rough and Derek seemed raw.


 
Posted : May 25, 2020 8:26 am
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Not a huge fan of the Strat-era...that tone could be quite shrill, particularly when he gets bend-happy. Way fatter tone w his Paul(s). Not a huge fan of Dickey using his wah....there’s possibly zero ABB material that benefits from it and it should NEVER be used during Ain’t Wasting Time NO More...I’m sure Gregg loved that lol.

I thought Dickey's strat sounded good when paired with Jack, but I was pretty happy he went back to Gibsons.

Agree regarding the wah. I'm not sure why Dickey was dropping the wah on some songs, and it still didn't work when Warren would use it years later.


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Posted : May 25, 2020 8:56 am
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I thought Dickey's strat sounded good when paired with Jack, but I was pretty happy he went back to Gibsons.

Dickey's strat sounds mighty FAT, more like a gibson, because he is using a Seymour Duncan "hot rail" pickup in the neck position, its doing its job and sounds fine to me. more of his tone comes from his amp anyway.

Thanks, blackey - I mean, pops42. I knew this, but a Strat still doesn't sound like a Gibson, even if it's going through a Marshall with JBLs. A good deal of tone comes from his fingers as much as anything.


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Posted : May 25, 2020 9:12 am
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It sounds more like a gibson, than a stock stratocaster with the pickup mod.

Yes, more similar to a Gibson than an stock strat, but still not as much as a Gibson does. That's all I'm saying. You can really hear the unmistakable Strat sound on Dickey's solo on "What's Done is Done".


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Posted : May 25, 2020 10:33 am
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Dickey's 1956 Fender Stratocaster hardtail has single coil pickups in the other two positions. I remember seeing him move the switch in the middle for No One Left To Run With for a Bo Didley sound.

Anyway here it is up close about 30 seconds in. Lots of road wear when you see it up close on its stand. Where ones right arm rests on the upper body is badly worn. It is 64 years old and apparently it was really played for some time years ago.

I was told Dickey has owned it about 30 to 35 years. Duane Betts uses it now on a couple Allman Betts songs and earlier played it on a couple with Dawes.


 
Posted : May 25, 2020 12:34 pm
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Here is a great sounding Stratocaster! If you see it alert Warren. It was stolen off the stage about 27 years ago and AlPaul said extensive looking occurred at music, guitar stores and pawn shops all over and it was never found!!


 
Posted : May 25, 2020 12:43 pm
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This is a fantastic sounding Stratocaster. 1964. Hotroded with hotrails in all 3 positions and a Floyd Rose whammy. It sounds fantastic to me. Several people in the audience apparently don't give crap about it or the band.


 
Posted : May 25, 2020 1:01 pm
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It sounds more like a gibson, than a stock stratocaster with the pickup mod.

Yes, more similar to a Gibson than an stock strat, but still not as much as a Gibson does. That's all I'm saying. You can really hear the unmistakable Strat sound on Dickey's solo on "What's Done is Done".

Nothing wrong with that. Cool

Except I don't like Strats, and prefer Gibsons, especially if it's in Dickey Betts' hands.


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Posted : May 25, 2020 1:42 pm
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Very cool, thanks! I was at this show! It was a miserable night lol. Spent the whole day in the sun at the Nascar race at Michigan International Speedway & booked right over to Pine Knob after. It was a cold & rainy night that night. Luckily we were in the pavillion. Long day!


 
Posted : May 26, 2020 2:17 am
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that was a great watch and listen. Hard to concentrate today . This had to be one of the best Dickey-Derek shows . Derek looks out of place but sure sounds like he's a seasoned Brother .


 
Posted : May 26, 2020 6:50 am
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Loved this tour’s JJ’s Alley too - that one to me is one of their very best - not just among their unreleased ones - Berry’s Jam, Egypt, Bag End... - but overall - sure like the acoustic Collectors version, but that 6/26 Tweeter Ctr version - hard bebop jazz rock, tight as a drum, very Allmanized - just a Smokeshow - DB’s last one for the Bros & again, just great imo
Looking forward to this listen alright, thx for posting Cool

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Posted : May 26, 2020 10:15 am
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This is a great find from a strong second leg of summer 1999 tour. Derek and Dickey produce some great music. Not a lot of interplay but they both sound strong. Same with Gregg. Derek really has a feeel for Blue Sky and pushes Dickey.

Not a lot of on stage connectivity between Dickey and his band mates during the show - maybe a sign of things to come. Guess the question really have is what produced the big drop off in Dickey’s playing from Aug/Sep 1999 and March-May 2000? It’s startling.

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Posted : May 26, 2020 5:19 pm
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Gregg's book says it was heavier and heavier drinking "and who knows what else he was doing".

Gregg didn't care for Dickey's new songs and after Gregg supposedly got clean, it became more difficult for Gregg to put up with Dickey's temper and bullying. Then when the drinking and substance abuse began affecting Dickey's playing to the point he, according to Gregg, was blowing song after song, Gregg said he wasn't going to be part of it and was quiting after the Atlanta show. When Gregg got home, he was called by Butch who was going to quit too but Melinda Trucks had heard from Gregg's then wife that Gregg too was going to quit. Butch said rather than us quiting, let's force him out and start over. They called Jaimoe but Jaimoe wouldn't agree to a complete out vote. Jaimoe said to get out of this band you have to die or quit. So they agreed to fax Dickey demanding he get help during the summer and after they did the summer tour with another guitarist we will meet this fall and discuss getting back together. But Dickey sued and claimed he was being impersonated. When they met with their lawyers all in the same room, Dickey refused to acknowledge he needed rehab and suggested they do a farewell tour and break up. Gregg and Butch refused so Dickey wanted to be paid for his contributions to the band, got up and left. Jaimoe looked at the others and said "I guess he has quit".

Personally I really enjoyed the 3 shows I saw with Derek and Dickey. It was like Duane Allman was back. Dickey's guitar style and song writing was such a huge part of the band and its legacy going back to Duane Allman. It's a shame Dickey just didn't apologize and check in and Gregg and Butch didn't give Dickey a chance to get better. I remember Gregg more than once being too drunk to play and sing well. And of course Dickey and Butch did quit in 1976 because of Gregg.

It would have been better if Dickey had gotten better and cleaned up and returned to the band and they finished up the band's career with all four originals. The first post Beacon show I saw in 1999 was in Las Vegas and Derek sounded so much like Duane on slide ift would move you to tears and Dickey and Gregg were inspired by that and were playing the best in years.

Derek Trucks said in a recent interviewhe he ?grew up listing to Fillmore East and Eat A Peach and Duane Allman was his biggest influence. So having that one year to be on stage with that very band and be in Duane's chair and play all those old songs with Dickey, the other guitar player on those classic albums, was a major highlight of his career.

Too bad it didn't last longer. Derek was another Duane Allman on slide guitar and he and Dickey sounded just like 1971 all over again. It was really fantastic. Yes it is shocking and disappointing it all came crashing down in just one year. And the band came very close to breaking up. Hopefully Derek and Dickey could have kept it going for several years if Dickey had gotten into rehab. By 2005 Derek and Warren and Otiel too were ready to move on with solo projects by 2009, the 40th anniversary anyway. They only stayed until 2014 because of pressure from Butch.


 
Posted : May 26, 2020 6:15 pm
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The dropoff in playing was most likely due to heavier drinking as Gregg said. Getting drunk is in no way, shape or form conducive to guitar playing...it cripples dexterity. I just think Dickey went on a major bender (certainly not his first), probably due to Joe Dan’s tragic passing. Grief + anger + tons of booze = bad news


 
Posted : May 27, 2020 5:48 am
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I saw the band in New Orleans then later Mansfield/Boston that summer. I saw Beacon opening night in 2000 & the final Dickey show in Atlanta May 7. Derek definitely added some power back to the band and I did appreciate the ying/yang sound Derek & Dickey had. True Gravity was a brilliant opener in most cases.

The tapes from that era weren't always so flawless even if the shows were great/fun in person. Harmony vocals lacked without Warren. Some of Dickey's bends were just off key....seemed like for affect...not my favorite parts on the tapes.

JJs Alley really worked best on the Dickey acoustic album a few years later.

I would have much rather have seen a double album instead of Peakin at the Beacon to document that era. The 7-8 best / tightest tracks from the Jack lineup (carefully pulled regardless of venue / year) as CD1 and the 7-8 best Derek lineup tracks from Summer 1999-Spring 2000 as CD2....with better / brighter sound.

I will be giving this Pine Knob show a listen/look later...thanks for the link!


 
Posted : May 27, 2020 7:22 am
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Ok - Had to give True Gravity a look & listen. Great 10.5 minute version. Loved how Derek took both the Warren solo spot and an extended take on the Johnny Neel solo section. Tremendous Derek solos. That handoff between Derek & Dickey is where this band would normally do it....sometimes with Derek getting just a little longer for his "landing." I loved his slide behind Dickey's solo when DB begins to take off. Dickey hits a few notes at the end that seem off and it's not his strongest finish, but it's a really good solo I would have been dancing and smiling to hear in person.

And the band is tight. Everyone nails their parts. Marc sounds so good in the mix. Derek does a few bird calls before they kick into the melody again at the end. Drums are just so great together. Gregg even gets a bit of a electric piano sound at one point (not sure if it was just him doing it on organ). Oteil is in the pocket and its the type ABB song he really enjoyed playing it seems.

A version like that one would have been the lead off to my CD2 of my version of a 2000 live album from the ABB.

Thanks again for that link. Hard to believe that was 21 years ago!


 
Posted : May 27, 2020 7:46 am
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JJ’s Alley really works best on the Dickey acoustic album a few years later

Smile Entirely Subjective
That’s the beauty of music - same song, yet couldn’t be more different - 1 electric on stage in a bebop jazz mode (primarily) - the other an acoustic studio setting in a different, more western-swing sound (same)

Both great, the ABB/bebop fusion is thrilling on this recording Smile
Watching the link a little at a time, it demands full ears at some point - very good sound alright! Cool


 
Posted : May 27, 2020 8:38 am
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what a night in the D. This brings back so many memories at The Knob. Always enjoyed 2000 when I got 2 nights of Derek and Jimmy together. I know they only played together for a couple of months but thought those shows were off the hook IMO. Also the time or two I saw Jack subbing were excellent. Just goes to show how they were such quality players. Long live the Brothers.....Miss you mad Brother Ray stay safe my friend...peace


 
Posted : June 3, 2020 1:27 pm
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Ha! this was before Marc became a hippie! Thanks a bunch for this.

I saw them about a week earlier in KC. It was really good. I had kind lost touch with the band. Hadn't seen them in several years and wasn't even aware that Warren & Woody had left the band until I showed at the venue and saw Derek & Oteil. Had no idea who either of them was. I was quite disappointed at first. But after listening for a while somehow I just KNEW that Derek was part of the family. And I really enjoyed it. On the way home after the show a guy on the radio was talking about Butch Trucks "son" on guitar. I came to this website to get the facts straight.

That night though I was reminded of the magic of the ABB. How cool it was that they could go through so many variations and still be so awesome! It was also the beginning of watching Derek Trucks grow into a true Allman Brother. He just kept getting better and better.

I don't want to go back & forth with anyone, Blackey ;), we all know the original band was the best and most agree that the 73 version of the band was smokin' hot as well. After that it is all a matter of preference. But for me the years from 2001 - 2014 were truly an unexpected gift. Warren belonged in the band. No doubt Derek and Oteil became Brothers too. The variations of songs, like the intro to YDLM they did in 01 & 02 and then later getting it back to full length, the Mountain Jams, the change ups in BHW, NOLTRW & Rocking Horse were all VERY Reminiscent of the original band for me. Even the covers. I have hesitated to say this because it is really weird. But when I was very, very young I used to dream of the ABB surprising me with various covers and some of the ones that came to pass, I just can't explain:

Layla - Makes sense and not really a stretch though I never really thought I would see it happen
My Favorite Things - Again not a stretch bet never expected to see it.
Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad - Ok this one was a bit of a stretch.
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down? - I was there the first time they played it (The one above too, same night) and I still don't believe it happened.
Dazed & Confused - No Way!
Little Wing!!! - With E.C.!!! I have died and gone to Heaven.
Free Bird - It wasn't very good but I dreamed it and I got to see it.
Can't Find My Way Home - Again not great but I got to hear it.
Needle and the Damage Done - (I Love Neil Young)

OK I'm not lyin here, I really imagined them doing all of these songs but did it really happen? It' was Like God was giving my request list to the band in those final years and what a treat it was!

[Edited on 6/4/2020 by KCJimmy]


 
Posted : June 4, 2020 1:54 pm
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Great discussion of a show guys - thanks, I miss reading stuff like that. This show will be watched in full by me Saturday night, looking forward to it!


 
Posted : June 4, 2020 4:43 pm
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Yes it is
I’d sure love to see some sort of officially-released 1998-99 two- or three-CD comp - this was a real pivotal juncture/turning point of the band’s career -
...realistically of course I know it won’t happen - as always, traders, THANKS
looking at this show reminds me how little I have from this era - :Dthis is a damn good show alright, thx again

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Posted : June 4, 2020 5:32 pm
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My Favorite Things - Again not a stretch bet never expected to see it.

I know they would tease it occasionally in Desdemona but did they ever actually flesh out the whole song?

If you are thinking of Coltrane covers, Afro Blue certainly qualifies.


 
Posted : June 5, 2020 10:26 am
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