Steve Miller Goes Off at Rock Hall Induction


Nothing like accepting the honor and standing in the spotlight that honor provides only to go backstage and rip the people you just accepted the honor from.

The RRHOF thing is interesting.
People bag on it constantly, have since the beginning.
But, you better not express your opinion about it if you aren't the right person at the right time, or, look out.

The nomination/induction part of the hall is sketchy. There are tons of problems with that process and they should be called out for it. I just feel like Miller was a bit two faced about how he went about it.
Miller didn't make his major anti-HOF comments on stage, he waited until he was interviewed back stage after he accepted the award, gave a speech and performed. Nothing shocking from what I can tell from Miller's history. He seems to be a malcontent anyway.
I think Miller was a borderline candidate in the first place when you compare him to others who are not in.

I'm only recently getting hip to the whole RRHOF boondoggle given this recent spat and Ice Cube's comments about NWA's experience, but to me, what Miller expressed is the essence of RocknRoll in and of itself.
There's an injustice going on and people are pissed so you're going to hear about it, ok?
Good for him for speaking out

The RnR HOF is BS. They dishonor the honorees yet feed off the musicians and their music. They pick and choose at their will, not the will and love of the people. Sadly too many issues. It's a place I would never visit due to how they've shunned the musicians I've loved, Billboard Music Hall is more appropriate of a title.

Not only is Steve Miller entitled to his opinion - he's earned it. I don't know much about the Black Keys at all, but I'd say that they're just a step or two short of being lap dogs for Jan Wenner and Rolling Stone magazine. Just rewind these pages back through the years and read (some of) your own gripes and complaints about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Of course, Steve Miller could have done a Woody Allen (skipped the Oscars to play clarinete with his jazz combo) and not even participated in their party. My guess is that Miller has had more experience and issues with not only Rolling Stone, but with the world of professional music in general than the 'Keys.
This is all my opinion ... don't know if I've earned it or not. 😉

Sort of what I thought too, The Black Keys telling Steve Miller what is what?

I like some of the Black Keys' music, and their guy Dan Aurbach did a GREAT job producing Dr John's album.
I think they're foolish to speak against Steve Miller here. Can they disprove his points?

I don't think Dan Auerbach disagreed with Miller's points at all, just the forum he used to make them. Also, I think some of that legendary Miller "charm" might have rubbed the Keys the wrong way.
Miller was this year's Mike Love.

I will throw this out here, although many of you will disagree.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the building itself, in Cleveland, is one cool deal. I have been a couple of times and I highly suggest if you are in the area, you go also.
The RnRHofFame board or entity or Jann Wenner's clique or whoever they are, are a bunch of asses.

The museum is incredible. I've been there twice and you can't take it all in with just one day. So much cool stuff there.
The nominating committee is headed up by Springteen's manager Jon Landau. Wenner has a ton of pull, but everything starts and ends with Landau and his committee.

Why don't you at least sign your or your (then) band's name to this so we can research and figure out how much of all this means anything. I'm not the biggest Steve Miller fan, but I've seen him several times. Sure, he's turned out tons of pop fodder but his skills as a guitarist and songwriter can't be denied credibly by any real musician. - RB
Bill and I got along all right, but we had our disagreements because Bill is a tough motherfucking businessman, and I don't take no shit, either. So there were clashes. I remember one time-it might have been a couple of times-at the Fillmore East in 1970, I was opening up for this sorry-ass cat named Steve Miller. I think Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young were on that program, and they were a little better. Anyway, Steve Miller didn't have shit going for him, so I'm pissed because I got to open for this non-playing motherfucker just because he had one or two sorry-ass records out. So I would come late and he would have to go on first, and then when we got there, we just smoked the motherfucking place and everybody knew it, including Bill!
This went on for a couple of nights and every time I would come late, Bill would be telling me about "it's being disrespectful to the artist" and shit like that. On this last night, I do the same thing. When I get there I see that Bill is madder than a motherfucker because he's not waiting for me inside like he normally does, but he's standing outside the Fillmore. He starts to cut into me with this bullshit about "disrespecting Steve" and everything. So I just look at him, cool as a motherfucker, and say to him, "Hey, baby, just like the other nights and you know they worked out just fine, right?" So he couldn't say nothing to that because we had torn the place down.
After this gig, or somewhere around this time, I started realizing that most rock musicians didn't know anything about music. They didn't study it, couldn't play different styles-and don't even talk about reading music. But they were popular and sold a lot of records because they were giving the public a certain sound, what they wanted to hear. So I figured if they could do it-reach all those people and sell all those records without really knowing what they were doing-then I could do it, too, only better. Because I liked playing the bigger halls instead of the nightclubs all the time. Not only could you make more money and play to larger audiences, but you didn't have the hassles you had playing all those smoky night-clubs.
So it was through Bill that I met the Grateful Dead. Jerry Garcia, their guitar player, and I hit if off great, talking about music-what they liked and what I liked-and I think we all learned something, grew some. Jerry Garcia loved jazz, and I found out that he loved my music and had been listening to it for a long time. He loved other jazz musicians, too, like Ornette Coleman and Bill Evans.

I think it is a Miles Davis quote.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/steve-miller-rock-hall-hbo-broadcast/
Steve Miller Still Sorting Out ‘Murky’ Rock Hall Contract for HBO Broadcast
By Jeff Giles April 18, 2016 10:10 AM
Steve Miller‘s induction was the talk of this year’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, but there’s still no guarantee his performance will make it to HBO’s broadcast later this month.
As Miller recently told the San Diego Union-Tribune, he’s still going back and forth with the Hall over the terms of their contract for rebroadcast rights. “We’re still negotiating. We’re demanding they clean up their paperwork – their paperwork is just ridiculous,†he claimed. “When they tell you that you’ve been nominated, they don’t give you any information. It’s ‘We’ll let you know how you do.’ They are a day late and a dollar short.â€
Miller’s unhappiness with the release forms is just a small part of the bad blood between the rock vet and the Rock Hall that erupted in the press room after the ceremony. He aired a long list of grievances the night of the event and has continued to elaborate in the days following his induction, ultimately provoking a response from the Hall.
None of which seems to bode well for the chances of getting paperwork signed for the induction ceremony’s HBO broadcast on April 30. According to Miller, it would be easy to get a better contract together, if the Rock Hall would only try. “They’re talking about having you sign releases and them controlling other people’s art; it’s as bad as any contract I’ve seen in 50 years,†he said. “I’ve spent three months with them negotiating to clean it up and share it with everybody else inducted this year. They pitted everybody against everybody else, and it’s all unnecessary. God, I could straighten it all out in a day.â€
There’s still time to get the issues fixed, but at the moment, Miller doesn’t sound like he’s willing to budge. “Everything in the contract is hard to understand and murky, and the Rock Hall have all these rights and the artists don’t have any, and you have to indemnify them,†he said. “I don’t do contracts like that, whether it’s with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the Kennedy Center, or anyone else.â€
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