So when the heck is this coming out?
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I can't even spell released.
Take it easy. It's just a little typo. The letters are adjacent to one another. Hope you and yours have a great weekend.
I have really been digging the Bear Family release from the Feb 1970 Fillmore East shows. What a freaking peak into the past, esp when you know what's to come!!! (and so sad that it would be over WAY too soon...) RIP Brothers Allmam who have gone before us, and good vibes to the Jaimoe & Dickey, Chuck, Oteil, Marc, Warren, & Derek.
Doesn’t seem to have a release date mentioned in the article https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/allman-brothers-1971-fillmore-west-premiere/
never as soon as we would like...lol
It & the Atlanta Pop film will be issued as a dual/tandem release
....in the next world, haha
The timing of these releases anytime hereafter could only be bested by a rare 1925 live release of Ace Brigode & his 14 Virginians - Yes, Sir, That's My Baby.
As their best $$$$ demographic continues to die off.... such idiocy all around
Peachnutt wrote, "As their best $$$$ demographic continues to die off.... such idiocy all around."
Yes, yes, 1000 times yes. I'm at the age where I still pay for music; I still buy physical copies of CDs and DVDs. However, I'm a dying breed. And I'm not alone.
These gorgeous packages come out by the Grateful Dead or Miles Davis or Led Zepp, and they sell like hotcakes. They will not sell like that 20 years from now, I reckon.
Now, in some ways, the ABB Co. has done its part. We have been blessed with a lot of good archival stuff (the official bootlegs, the big Fillmore box, Play All Night, the de-luxe versions of EAP and B & S, plus the Instant Lives) - other fan bases have had it worse, all things considered.
Still, Time Waits for No One. If there is the chance to make some old fans happy and make the band and record company some cash at the same time, it seems odd it ain't happening quicker.
Still -
Hoping this is released on vinyl as well. That platform is making a major comeback. Wouldn't be surprised if it was selling better the cds now a days.
I too am very grateful for all the audio that we do have. However, considering the feeling that Duane Allman and the original Allman Brothers Band was and is a true American Treasure, it is heartbreaking that there has been no official Duane era film released, even though it is common knowledge that a good deals exists. A crying shame.
I too am very grateful for all the audio that we do have. However, considering the feeling that Duane Allman and the original Allman Brothers Band was and is a true American Treasure, it is heartbreaking that there has been no official Duane era film released, even though it is common knowledge that a good deals exists. A crying shame.
A damn shame indeed!
I've been hoping Gregg's widow would push some of these projects along.
Wonder if Al Paul has any Intel?
I too am very grateful for all the audio that we do have.
As am I and as a tape trader going back to the late 70s with the Brothers, I've had the Fillmore West show in my collection for 4 decades.
However, considering the feeling that Duane Allman and the original Allman Brothers Band was and is a true American Treasure, it is heartbreaking that there has been no official Duane era film released, even though it is common knowledge that a good deals exists. A crying shame.
My window of interest has been closed for quite some time now and probably peaked in '89 with the release of the "Dreams" box set. While I respect and love the band, I've lost my desire to hear yet another version of "Statesboro Blues" or "Whippin' Post". What is unfortunate is the lack of diversity in set-lists the band played while Duane was with us. Being a guitar player I would be excited about a video release with Duane where the camera gave us some insight on his right hand technique, particularly while he was playing slide. If you've watched all of the video out there, there are very, very few moments where the camera is focused on his right hand....
My window of interest has been closed for quite some time now and probably peaked in '89 with the release of the "Dreams" box set. While I respect and love the band, I've lost my desire to hear yet another version of "Statesboro Blues" or "Whippin' Post". What is unfortunate is the lack of diversity in set-lists the band played while Duane was with us. Being a guitar player I would be excited about a video release with Duane where the camera gave us some insight on his right hand technique, particularly while he was playing slide. If you've watched all of the video out there, there are very, very few moments where the camera is focused on his right hand....
Interesting take. I do think the lack of releases has created more of an interesting demand than the actual final product. They weren't together long and the setlists are all the same, for the most part. I just like hearing Duane Allman anytime i can, and i suspect many on this site feel the same way, we just can't get enough of Duane cause their ain't enough, at least to date.
I'd like to see more from the Chuck/Lamar period, i found that period to be there most interesting musically.
It appears that the release date has dropped off the face of the earth. Strange
{snip}What is unfortunate is the lack of diversity in set-lists the band played while Duane was with us. Being a guitar player I would be excited about a video release with Duane where the camera gave us some insight on his right hand technique, particularly while he was playing slide. If you've watched all of the video out there, there are very, very few moments where the camera is focused on his right hand....
I agree about the lack of diversity. But it's not surprising, considering their relentless touring schedule (something like 300 shows per year for 2 1/2 years, IIRC). The notorious Rolling Stone article from October, 1971 quotes Duane urging Dickey to help him work on some new songs. We have a few glimpses of what might have happened: "Blue Sky" and "Stand Back" (which can still melt headphones), "My Favorite Things" from the Gatlinburg recordings (considering how Duane loved Davis and Coltrane, the fantasies run wild), and a comment I saw somewhere decades ago where Gregg or Dickey said they'd talked about an all-acoustic set that never happened.
Sigh.
Billastro
This is great news!!!!
Thanks for the update!
I loves me some previously unreleased Duane.
Also on jambase:
https://www.jambase.com/article/allman-brothers-band-fillmore-west-1971-trouble-no-more
I kinda wish Bear was involved, but my Capt. Skipper version is mighty fine.
My window of interest has been closed for quite some time now and probably peaked in '89 with the release of the "Dreams" box set. While I respect and love the band, I've lost my desire to hear yet another version of "Statesboro Blues" or "Whippin' Post". What is unfortunate is the lack of diversity in set-lists the band played while Duane was with us. Being a guitar player I would be excited about a video release with Duane where the camera gave us some insight on his right hand technique, particularly while he was playing slide. If you've watched all of the video out there, there are very, very few moments where the camera is focused on his right hand....
Interesting take. I do think the lack of releases has created more of an interesting demand than the actual final product. They weren't together long and the setlists are all the same, for the most part. I just like hearing Duane Allman anytime i can, and i suspect many on this site feel the same way, we just can't get enough of Duane cause their ain't enough, at least to date.
I'd like to see more from the Chuck/Lamar period, i found that period to be there most interesting musically.
Here's another take, I wonder who they think is going to shell out the $$ for this?....Most ABB fans have had this for decades and any other "Fan" is going to look at the set-list and say this is the same as LAFE......Wanna stir up some real interest and generate some real cash?...Give us a Duane era video!
I'll pay for it. I don't know how many have had the complete shows - you may be in for a few surprises. I'd like to see the complete set lists for each night.
It will be very interesting to see exactly what is on this release … the document states that the recordings are from shows played at Fillmore West on 29th, 30th & 31st Jan 1971 … yet the database here has a four show run from 28th to 31st.
Furthermore, Capt Skipper did work on these recordings for a proposed archival release a few years ago that got shelved and based upon his information there is no recording of the 29th show - which was also reputedly played at Winterland not Fillmore West.
The info gleaned from conversations with Skip and other venerable members of this site is as follows:
01/28/71 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco (1 disc)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}
Track List: Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Midnight Rider / Dreams / You Don’t Love Me / Whipping Post
01/29/71 @ Winterland, San Francisco (1 track only – Whipping Post)
Regarding the venue for this show, according to Kim Payne (ABB Roadie) the show on the 29th was actually played at Winterland, and not the Fillmore West. In further discussions about this, Joseph Campbell (ABB Roadie – “Red Dog”) also recalled having to move Greggs Hammond B3 Organ across the city for one show at Winterland after a show at the Fillmore West. So it would seem that although the ABB had originally been booked to play the 28th, 29th, 30th & 31st at the Fillmore West, after playing there on the 28th for some reason (possibly technical or booking issues) they had to move over to Winterland for the show on the 29th, and then go back to the Fillmore for the shows on the 30th & 31st.
There are two bogus versions in circulation purporting to be this show. One is just a copy of 1/28 with a bit of manipulation of the crowd noise and stage banter between the tracks to give the impression that the recording is from a different show. The other is a bit more devious in that it has stage banter from other shows inserted between the tracks. This was proven by sonic analysis (thanks to Steve Cogley aka “oldcoot”) which also showed that some of the tracks had been fabricated by splicing together sections from different recordings.
It is therefore thought that no genuine recording exists of the full show at Winterland on 1/29, however there is a recording from a radio show that is in circulation, where the DJ announces “And now, live from Winterland, here’s Whipping Post from the Allman Brothers”. This one track is considered to be the only authentic recording from the show on 01/29/71, and may well be what has been used on the second of the bogus shows referred to above.
01/30/71 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco (1 disc)
{Remastered Soundboard Recording}
This show falls into a grey area with regards to tradability, as it is a remastered soundboard recording that was prepared as part of the ABB Archive Release programme. The show was never issued, however copies of the show are known to exist in private trading circles.
Track List: Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / Tuning / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Stormy Monday / You Don’t Love Me / Whipping Post
01/31/71 @ Fillmore West, San Francisco (2 discs)
{CaptSkipper Remaster available}
The freely traded version of this show is an audience recording that has the following track list: Disc 1 - Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Midnight Rider / Hoochie Coochie Man / Dreams … Disc 2 - You Don’t Love Me / Hot ’Lanta / Whipping Post
There is a second version of this show however, which falls into a grey area with regards to tradability as it is a remastered soundboard recording that was prepared as part of the ABB Archive Release programme. The show was never issued, however copies of the show are known to exist in private trading circles with the following track list: Disc 1 - Statesboro Blues / Trouble No More / Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’ / In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed / Midnight Rider / Hoochie Coochie Man / Dreams / You Don’t Love Me … Disc 2 - Hot ’Lanta / Whipping Post / One Way Out # / Mountain Jam #
# FillerTracks: “One Way Out” is from the 06/16/71 show at the Municipal Auditorium in Birmingham and “Mountain Jam” is from the 03/13/70 show at the Warehouse in New Orleans.
[Edited on 6/21/2019 by harvey]
You make a good point Harvey in that I am not sure they know what dates the tapes they have are from.
I was lucky enough to listen to the original Sirius broadcast and have posted my impressions in several threads but here they are again. I have a number of boots from the Fillmore West shows and while they are good the broadcast version SQ was better so I am really looking forward to this set.
Here are my thoughts on the broadcast
I was able to listen to the original Sirius broadcast and there is supposed to be a 4CD release sometime this year. Here were my impressions of the broadcast
The show was DJ'd by Warren Haynes wife, Stefani Scamardo, with him giving color commentary. It was mentioned that this will be a 4CD box set from 2 track SB tapes to be released later this year. She also said that the band played 4 nights, starting the 27th, as the middle act with Hot Tuna as the headliners, which jives for the band lineup, but not the dates, on the concert poster someone posted earlier. It was mentioned that the first night's tape from the 27th has not been found so I am assuming the box set will hopefully be from the last 3 nights.
Here was the first discrepancy I noticed as she claims the shows started the 27th to the 30th but the concert poster states 28-31st. Also, I read on the ABB forum that the show from the 29th was actually played at Winterland and not the Fillmore West so I am curious what the reality is.
The second thing I noticed is the broadcast is claimed to be from the third show, which according to Scamardo's timeline would be the 29th, yet right before "Don't Keep Me Wondering" Duane says they enjoyed the first three nights and they would enjoy this one or something to that effect. So I am wondering if this tape is from the following night?
In any case, the total broadcast time was around 45 minutes and a setlist of 7 songs which is about right when the Allmans played support. I got to listen to almost the complete broadcast except for about 15 minutes right before You Don't Love Me" where I had to get out of the car to take care of business.
The first impression is this is a fantastic recording which is clear and well balanced for the most part. I did notice that for the first 2 tracks the drums were a bit recessed in the background and the same on the last track "Whipping Post". On the other tracks, all the instruments are well balanced but, as you would expect with a 2 track SB recording, the separation is not very wide so as long as you're not expecting the multitrack separation of the 2014 Fillmore Recordings I think you won't be disappointed in the sound quality.
The performance is hot and the highlight for me was one of my favorite live Brothers tracks "You Don't Love Me". You can hear elements of the later version that is on the original Fillmore East album but with interesting twists. The playing is much looser and more improvised IMO and the famous Betts solo is very similar to the Fillmore East version but slower with Duane and Berry noodling in the background behind him as opposed to the intense Fillmore East solo with Butch and Jaimoe driving Betts on with their powerhouse drumming.
All in all a very exciting treat awaits us when this box set finally is released.
Image of concert poster where the dates do not align with the comments on what shows will be in the boxset during the broadcast.
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Pre sale:
https://www.thebighousemuseum.com/news/fillmore-west-1971-cd-release//blockquote >Thanks for the notice! I did not see anywhere to preorder the set? Am I missing something?
