Nope. I preordered without Amazon Prime.
Was it through Amazon and the two CD remaster, not vinyl or a download? If so, I stand corrected.
Yeah, it doesn't matter. You never need Amazon Prime to order anything.
That said, you are correct check the fine print. They set it up so you might click on Order With Amazon Prime. Im sure they sell a ton of Prime accounts that way. I loathe Amazon, only buy from them if stuff is absolutely unavailable elsewhere. They are a behemoth economy-sucking vampire from hell.
Looks like Grandpa clicked the wrong button.
Sound like smartass grandson doesn't know that Prime membership is the only way to order the Laid Back remaster at least right now..........
Before I posted, I double checked and attempted to pre-order and was given two different options, one without signing up for Prime. I can see how it can be confusing, but you can always pre-order from Amazon without signing up for Prime (which is easy to cancel). They will still gladly take your money.
Looks like Grandpa clicked the wrong button.
Sound like smartass grandson doesn't know that Prime membership is the only way to order the Laid Back remaster at least right now..........
Before I posted, I double checked and attempted to pre-order and was given two different options, one without signing up for Prime. I can see how it can be confusing, but you can always pre-order from Amazon without signing up for Prime (which is easy to cancel). They will still gladly take your money.
there are items at times though offered only to prime customers. for months i couldn't purchase the new glen frey boxset as it was grayed out to purchased unless you were a prime member
As Gregg ha the release pulled and did not acknowledge it as a release then all the tracks could be called "unreleased". I am hopeful for a mix of versions/mixes we have heard and some we have not. Just far too many of the same tunes for them to be different versions.
Legal issues aside, I was always surprised that Gregg never did some sort of release with the material. He blocked one of his best albums.
Hope I am wrong and it is all different. If not some cleaned up audio of the extras and of course the original album make this a win either way.
Okay, still confused. Received an email from Rowland & Lana -
"Hey there sweet family,
A couple of you asked a question we thought deserved a follow-up email so here's a super quick one.
The vinyl LP versions - both black and colored vinyl - of Gregg Allman's Laid Back album have been remastered but they contain only the original eight tracks - no bonus tracks or rarities, they wouldn't fit.
Laid Back Vinyl LP Track List
A1. Midnight Rider
A2. Queen Of Hearts
A3. Please Call Home
A4. Don’t Mess Up A Good Thing
B1. These Days
B2. Multi-Colored Lady
B3. All My Friends
B4. Will The Circle Be Unbroken
The bonus tracks and rarities are on the 2 CD deluxe edition:
LAID BACK DELUXE EDITION TRACK LIST
CD1
LAID BACK remastered
1. Midnight Rider
2. Queen Of Hearts
3. Please Call Home
4. Don’t Mess Up A Good Thing
5. These Days
6. Multi-Colored Lady
7. All My Friends
8. Will The Circle Be Unbroken
LAID BACK early mixes
1. Midnight Rider (Early Mix)*
2. Queen Of Hearts (Early Mix)
3. Please Call Home (Early Mix)*
4. Don’t Mess Up A Good Thing (Early Mix)*
5. These Days (Early Mix)*
6. Multi-Colored Lady (Early Mix)
7. All My Friends (Early Mix)*
8. Will The Circle Be Unbroken (Early Mix)*
CD2
LAID BACK demos, outtakes & alternates
1. Never Knew How Much (Demo)**
2. All My Friends (Demo)
3. Please Call Home (Demo)*
4. Queen Of Hearts (Demo)*
5. God Rest His Soul (Solo Guitar & Vocal Demo)
6. Rollin’ Stone (Catfish Blues) (Solo Guitar & Vocal Demo)**
7. Will The Circle Be Unbroken (Solo Guitar & Vocal Demo)
8. Multi-Colored Lady (Solo Guitar & Vocal Demo)
9. These Days (Solo Guitar, Piano & Vocal Demo)*
10. Shadow Dream Song (Solo Guitar & Vocal Demo)
11. Wasted Words**
12. These Days (Alternate Version with Pedal Steel Guitar)
13. Multi-Colored Lady (Rough Mix)*
14. These Days (Rough Mix)*
15. God Rest His Soul (Rehearsal)
16. Midnight Rider (Rehearsal)*
17. Song For Adam / Shadow Dream Song (Solo Guitar & Vocal Demo)
18. Melissa (Live at the Capitol Theatre)*
* Previously unreleased
** Previously unreleased mix"
Does unreleased mean these versions are not on One More Try?
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.
i thought that meant its not on one more try. for instance there are 4 version of these days listed on here and just 1 on one more try. that's 3 unreleased tunes. Melissa is not on one more try as a live version that I recall so that's unreleased. there is just 1 midnight rider on one more try and 2 here. so far that's 5 unreleased tunes on this set just off the top of my head. the face some stuff is shown as already being released means yes they are counting stuff released on one more try as that's where it was previously released.
its listing 9 of these tracks as being released on one more try. my guess is that really means the other 17 tracks really are unreleased and I already showed 5 of them are. bill levenson I think had something to do with this release
As Gregg ha the release pulled and did not acknowledge it as a release then all the tracks could be called "unreleased". I am hopeful for a mix of versions/mixes we have heard and some we have not. Just far too many of the same tunes for them to be different versions.
Legal issues aside, I was always surprised that Gregg never did some sort of release with the material. He blocked one of his best albums.
Hope I am wrong and it is all different. If not some cleaned up audio of the extras and of course the original album make this a win either way.
read the press release though. they identify some things as being already released and some as not . look at the other post I just made about multiple versions and things not on one more try for sure
I'm starting to think there are more legit unreleased tracks than I initially thought. The "These Days" they previewed is unheard to me.
Reminds me, here's a LAID BACK-inspired animation I did a while back
I'm starting to think there are more legit unreleased tracks than I initially thought. The "These Days" they previewed is unheard to me.
Reminds me, here's a LAID BACK-inspired animation I did a while back
yeah I think 16 after counting again, maybe they are wrong and its 13-14 but that's still a lot. however a lot of the unreleased stuff is just different mixes. I see 11 that are just different mixes if everything is listed properly. then 1 live track and 3 demos and 1 rehearsal
Unlike the Rolling Stones, Eagles, Pink Floyd etc, The Allman Brothers was a super group just that one year. They couldn't keep it going.
Different view here, I think and have always thought that they took their success for granted and well, just quit putting max effort into their work. Go back and give "Win, Lose or Draw" another spin. Coming off the sales of "Brothers and Sisters" was there ever a better time to hit the studio and double down? That record flat out stunk. Gregg's contribution was minimal and if wasn't for Chuck's keyboard work on "High Falls" I would place that release in the same category with the Arista recordings.
Another thing to add, someone here posted a link to an acoustic outtake of "These days" from the "Laid Back" masters (Thank You). How difficult would it have been for Gregg to have included that in his acoustic performance catalog so that "Melissa" was not beat to death? So many beautiful acoustic guitar songs that could have been a much bigger part of the legacy with a little work.....
That said, you are correct check the fine print. They set it up so you might click on Order With Amazon Prime. Im sure they sell a ton of Prime accounts that way. I loathe Amazon, only buy from them if stuff is absolutely unavailable elsewhere. They are a behemoth economy-sucking vampire from hell.
I tend to agree with that assessment. Amazon now owns Whole Foods Market. There's one only a mile from me and I shop there but only occasionally. They have a deli and make some good fresh pizza. It's normally $3.50 for a large slice but often it's on "Prime Sale", $5.00 for two slices. Prime Sale? That means you must be a Grand Prime member to get that pizza price. Man, that REALLY irks the sh*t outta me.
That said, you are correct check the fine print. They set it up so you might click on Order With Amazon Prime. Im sure they sell a ton of Prime accounts that way. I loathe Amazon, only buy from them if stuff is absolutely unavailable elsewhere. They are a behemoth economy-sucking vampire from hell.
I preordered from Bull Moose. It's a little cheaper than Amazon right now.
$18.96 including shipping.
https://www.bullmoose.com/p/31134498/gregg-allman-laid-back-2-cd
Legal issues aside, I was always surprised that Gregg never did some sort of release with the material. He blocked one of his best albums.
Yeah. it drove me insane. I worked on this with Kirk West for a year or so. It was held up for another year or more. so it was well over 2 years of working, then waiting... finally came out and poof it was gone.
There were complicated reasons for this, including Polygram giving rights to ABB and GA material back to Phil Walden and his new Capricorn, and OMT was the first release. But the reasons this stuff never came back out is Gregg simply didn't like it. He was a perfectionist and did not think outtakes should be released. He had cleaned up a lot between the compilation being put together and finally coming out, so....
Legal issues aside, I was always surprised that Gregg never did some sort of release with the material. He blocked one of his best albums.
Yeah. it drove me insane. I worked on this with Kirk West for a year or so. It was held up for another year or more. so it was well over 2 years of working, then waiting... finally came out and poof it was gone.
There were complicated reasons for this, including Polygram giving rights to ABB and GA material back to Phil Walden and his new Capricorn, and OMT was the first release. But the reasons this stuff never came back out is Gregg simply didn't like it. He was a perfectionist and did not think outtakes should be released. He had cleaned up a lot between the compilation being put together and finally coming out, so....
I remember him telling us once that he just didn't think stuff like that should get released as it is flawed. He had the same view on people recording shows. If left solely to Gregg, the audience recording would have stopped in the early 70s. And he viewed the archieve shows in the same way.
Some used to get upset when I would write that here. Thought I was making it up. Well Gregg stopped allowing recording at his shows and still some wondered. He was actually pretty open about that. Dickey once told me that there are a lot of things that they could release in the archieves but Gregg always finds something he doesn't like about it.
For any flaws that may be on OMT, there is a magic about many of the songs and performances. For my tastes, it would be my 2nd favourite Gregg album. Gets tougher to pick a number 3 - Battle between the original Gregg live album and Search For Simplicity but that one gets the Jack Pearson vote as his playing is brilliant. And even then I often prefer the studio out takes disc that was traded around here for years.
Shame about all of the legal issues as the release was awesome IMO. I think one of the versions that I have was made in "Italy" maybe? Forget now but something different about it.
Gregg really hated all the recent era stuff from 89 on being recorded and traded. Early on he was often wasted, words slurred and low in the mix somenights on purpose. In the Derek era, he started to have lots of lyric issues and coming in on cue at points. I think he started at nap during the solos especially Derek. It was often after Derek's solos that he would fail to sing. But another topic for a different thread.
To me, even if some versions are the same, it all deserves to be heard and many never got a chance to buy or even heard of OMT.
Hi John, Thanks again for posting the information on Laid Back > PM sent to you.
-All the Best & Peace
One More Try was released in mid/late 1997, when there was a lot of upheaval in the Allman Brothers and it was clear there wasn't going to be a new album any time soon. Some of the cuts on One More Try are some of my favorite tracks Gregg has released - solo acoustic "Multi-Colored Lady", "Catfish Blues", "Will the Circle Be Unbroken". It was not what I was expecting from an "Anthology", it was gold.
Searching For Simplicity was released not long after OMT in 1997, with slick 1990s production and some saccharine, forgettable song-writing - a stark contrast of material and production between the two. Just reinforced how great the "warts and all" material on OMT is.
I agree. The rawness of OMT made it special. The exact element that we all like is what Gregg didn't oddly enough.
Searching For Simplicity was obviously a new recording with slicker production for sure. But I never compared to two albums in that way. Even the weaker material, I enjoy more than all his 80s albums.
But the key for me is Jack Pearson who is all over the album and he smokes even on the weaker stuff.
I seemed to remember this topic from a while back....
So I almost didn't buy it. After all, I bought the original album when it came out. And naturally I had the One More Try Anthology. So did I really need to plunk down more dollars for this set?
Well, of course, it was like an itch that needed scratching, and I gave in and bought it. And I am so glad I did. I played each disc while I was working around the house, or reading a book. In fact, I was reading the book by Michael Buffalo Smith about the Allman Brothers and Capricorn studios. The one with Phil Walden on the cover. What a magical period that must have been, to live in Macon in the early 1970's and be a musician. To walk into the studios, see who was there, step in and add some parts . Jam and socialize with like minded musicians. Seemed like everybody was helping everybody else, and making great music. Cowboy, Grinderswitch, Marshall Tucker, Bonnie Bramlett, Bobby Whitlock, Liv Taylor, Alex Taylor. Johnny Sandlin and Paul Hornsby producing post Hourglass.
Gregg had such a great band backing him on Laid Back. Chuck Leavell, Tommy Talton and Scott Boyer, Jimmy Nalls, Buzzy Feiten. Fathead Newman adding some great sax. Ed Freeman organizing the strings. And Gregg's songwriting was so strong then. " She tried so hard to hide her selfish sorrow..." Seems to me Never Knew How much A Man Needed a Woman would have fit just fine on Laid Back. This version is much superior to the one that came out years later on Brothers of the Road. Song For Adam/ Shadow Dream Song was so good, although one Jackson Browne cover was enough, and his version of These Days is even better than Jackson's! God Rest His Soul from the Hourglass days is so well done.
So now I am breaking out One More Try again and loving all those songs. And someone referenced the Gatlinburg Tapes recently so I am playing that again and really enjoying that, especially My Favorite Things. Did they ever play that live in concert?
I used to always prefer Gregg's stuff with the ABB/ But I am really coming to appreciate what he did outside the band as well. As many probably did, I met him a few times briefly and he always signed things. But my last time was most special. I had just seen them in Chicago at the State theater for two nights , with my youngest son who was going to college there. Turned out to be the last time the Brothers played there. It was a beautiful night, great show. I walked my son to the train, and went by the State again on my way to the Intercontinental Hotel. I noticed a group of people eby the side door, and naturally walked over to see what was happening. At that moment Gregg emerged and walked right over to me. I grabbed a blank work note card from my pocket, and he signed it, smiled, and then moved on to the next person. I was sky high! The card has a prominent place in my music room and I look at it every day.
Gregg gave so much to all of us. He is still there everytime I crack open his music. Thank you buddy! I admit it is still hard to play Southern Blood, though!
Nice post. You sure seem to know your stuff. I agree the One More Try release is epic as well.
Not to nitpick you but you weren't at The State Theater in Chicago, there isn't one. You were at The Chicago Theatre. 😀
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Looks like The Gregg Allman Tour is also getting re-released, but not in an expanded edition, which is a shame. There is a lot of great material from that tour.
I'm glad this thread has been revived, lots of interesting stuff here. Looks like The Gregg Allman Tour never did get remastered though. I looked, Amazon does not carry it and to my knowledge they have just about everything. Fortunately I bought it 20 some years ago so I have a copy. Thanks to this thread Southern Blood is in the stereo right now and damn it sounds great. Hadn't played it in over a year. In some ways it reminds me of Laid Back, mostly for the sheer beauty of the performances.
Looks like The Gregg Allman Tour never did get remastered though. I looked, Amazon does not carry it and to my knowledge they have just about everything.
I looked it up and Tour just got the vinyl re-release, not a remaster or CD release.
@porkchopbob: Thanks for the info. That's a shame they didn't do a CD remaster but as mentioned, I already own the original disc.
Yes so wish an expanded version of the Tour would get a release. I traded for the whole show with someone years ago. started with the Overture, which I thought was fantastic. And Tommy Talton does such a great job on slide on Dreams. What a wonderful man he is. At the aforementioned ABB show in Chicago ( and thanks for the site correction!) Tommy was playing at Buddy Guys. I took my son and his girlfriend ( now fiancée, they get married in October !).. Tommy was hanging out before the show and I had always wanted to meet him.. So my son and I walked up and started a conversation. I had his CD with me and asked him to sign it. He pulled out a pen, but it didn't work. He said Don't worry, I have a sharpie backstage and I will sign it for you after the show.
He did a great two hour show. Great band with him. as we prepared to leave, I hear a voice say "Peter!" and there was Tommy with his sharpie and signed my cd. I again told him what a thrill it was to meet him and how I loved his show, and the Cowboy albums, and as a music lover I never dreamed I would get a chance to meet him. Tommy just smiled, and gave me a hug! later that night he jammed with the Brothers at the show. What a great night for me!
Low boot, but nice performance from that tour. We know there's more out there from Carnegie Hall '74. @robertdee you will dig hearing these I bet
"Midnight Rider" sounds like a better mix actually some stereo separation.
@porkchopbob: That was a very nice version of Multi-Colored Lady and it makes me wonder why that was not included in the record. Too bad they have not gotten around to a remastered, expanded CD instead of just vinyl but then again I guess $$$ is the answer here. Us ABB fans are older and a small minority. Would this disc sell enough to make the project feasible?
@robslob I think your estimation question is right on. Your last two sentences say it all. Yeah man, we sure are getting older and i doubt the numbers are there to warrant a remastered CD. In my case, I did not purchase the reissue plus. Too much extraneous material. I would, however, get a remastered CD, at a reasonable price.
