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ABBDutchFan
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I recently bought a second hand copy of this 2LP at a CD/LP Music Fair. It has side 1 and 4 on one LP and side 2 and 3 on the other LP. Did that happen with many copies? Did it happen with the original pressing or a later re-release? Just wondering if this is a common thing.

 
Posted : November 10, 2014 1:32 pm
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It was common at the time (my copies of LAFE & Eat A Peach were that way, too...most double albums were). Because of how common record changers were (where you'd stack a couple or more LPs on a spindle at a time), they pressed double albums that way...you put the two LPs on the spindle, first you would play, side 1, then the LP with side 2 would drop, then when those were done, just flip them over to play sides 3 & 4.

The 3 LP "Leon Live" (Leon Russell) had Side 1 backed with side 6, 2 with 5, then 3 & 4...for the same reason.

When changers eventually gave way to the more "audio-file" single LP turntables, most double albums were then pressed with the standard 1/2, 3/4 format.

[Edited on 11/11/2014 by chiliD]

 
Posted : November 10, 2014 3:22 pm
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That's actually a VERY good record. I'm glad I picked it up on CD 10 or 15 years back because it's now out of print as I'm sure you know. Amazon has it via MP3 for $5.99. They have new CD copies via a third party seller but minimum is $39.95.

 
Posted : November 10, 2014 3:30 pm
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What ChiliD said.

 
Posted : November 10, 2014 4:08 pm
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When my parents had a party in the late 60's, they put a bunch of records on the changer so all they had to do was switch it on when everyone arrived. Unbeknownst to them, the 8 yo me slipped one of my Monkee albums into the queue in between something like Sergio Mendez and Herb Alpert. They dug it!

 
Posted : November 10, 2014 4:34 pm
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It was common at the time (my copies of LAFE & Eat A Peach were that way, too...most double albums were). Because of how common record changers were (where you'd stack a couple or more LPs on a spindle at a time), they pressed double albums that way...you put the two LPs on the spindle, first you would play, side 1, then the LP with side 2 would drop, then when those were done, just flip them over to play sides 3 & 4.

The 3 LP "Leon Live" (Leon Russell) had Side 1 backed with side 6, 2 with 5, then 3 & 4...for the same reason.

When changers eventually gave way to the more "audio-file" single LP turntables, most double albums were then pressed with the standard 1/2, 3/4 format.

[Edited on 11/11/2014 by chiliD]

Well thank you very much for that explanation ... never used a stacking turntable and was always puzzled with the layout of "Eat A Peach", where not only was Side 1 backed with Side 4 and Side 2 with Side 3, but also Mountain Jam Part 1 was on a different disc to Part 2 ... it is all clear now ...

... but having always had a single play turntable I still find it annoying that I can't just flip a single disc to hear MJ in its entirety ...

 
Posted : November 11, 2014 12:26 am
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It was common at the time (my copies of LAFE & Eat A Peach were that way, too...most double albums were). Because of how common record changers were (where you'd stack a couple or more LPs on a spindle at a time), they pressed double albums that way...you put the two LPs on the spindle, first you would play, side 1, then the LP with side 2 would drop, then when those were done, just flip them over to play sides 3 & 4.

The 3 LP "Leon Live" (Leon Russell) had Side 1 backed with side 6, 2 with 5, then 3 & 4...for the same reason.

When changers eventually gave way to the more "audio-file" single LP turntables, most double albums were then pressed with the standard 1/2, 3/4 format.

[Edited on 11/11/2014 by chiliD]

Well thank you very much for that explanation ... never used a stacking turntable and was always puzzled with the layout of "Eat A Peach", where not only was Side 1 backed with Side 4 and Side 2 with Side 3, but also Mountain Jam Part 1 was on a different disc to Part 2 ... it is all clear now ...

... but having always had a single play turntable I still find it annoying that I can't just flip a single disc to hear MJ in its entirety ...

Yes, thank you very much indeed. I also never used a stacking turntable. Maybe they weren't that popular over here or i just can't recall them. My old vinyl copies from EAP and LAFE don't have it. They have the standard 1/2 and 3/4 format. Both of those releases are manufactured in the UK and not in the USA so that might be a reason. But i think my EAP copy does indeed have Mountain Jam on side 2 and the second part on side 4 but that was also stated on the album cover. I guess that the vast majority of my old vinyl is pressed in the UK/ Europe or is of a later date. So i always thought that the very few 2LPS i own with that "odd" 1/3 and 2/4 format were mislabelled / wrongly manufactured.

 
Posted : November 11, 2014 9:24 am
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This thread is funny. I'm old @ 40? I guess so. Yes, The spindle turntable days ("No, there's no damage done in dropping wax on wax...") made that weird LP pressing popular. I get it now, but it pisses me off 2014, LOL. The 2 that pop in my mind are Europe '72 & Hot August Night. Thanks for throwing this GA Title back onto the front page, though. Been a long time since I played this.

 
Posted : November 13, 2014 4:54 pm
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So you just play side 4 after side 1 if ya don't want to fuss with second vinyl at moment. It is goofy now with single play tables. As for GA Tour LP, One of my big treasures is the tour program I acquired that I keep as an insert in album jacket. It is multi page color with many GA pics. I guess they either sold at shows or handed out at door on way in. Anyone know?

 
Posted : November 14, 2014 6:59 am
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So you just play side 4 after side 1 if ya don't want to fuss with second vinyl at moment. It is goofy now with single play tables. As for GA Tour LP, One of my big treasures is the tour program I acquired that I keep as an insert in album jacket. It is multi page color with many GA pics. I guess they either sold at shows or handed out at door on way in. Anyone know?

Seems I recall getting mine @ the show.

 
Posted : November 14, 2014 8:13 am
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