One of the things that is awesome about the Allman Brothers is their amazing, diehard fans. The Allman Brothers made it seem like an extended family early on, and managed to keep a much larger Brotherhood of fans of sorts up until the end. It also leads to one of my ABB-related pet peeves - fans who think they are some kind of insider expert. You hear them in line at shows blabbering about what a clueless roadie told them or repeating widely distributed stories they read in an article as if they were there. Almost everyone here has read the same books, articles, and gossip over the years. No need to repeat it ad nauseam here. Just enjoy the music that remains, let the dead rest.

My favorite story, and I've told it here before, was from seeing the ABB in lawn seats in Hartford in 2006, when they were playing with Tom Petty.

The guy behind us looked and sounded exactly like Joe Walsh, complete with bandanna and shades. He was watching the band and asking everyone around, "Which one's DUANE, man?"

Hah JimSheridan, we were at the Rosemont in Chicago ('05 or '06) and moe. opened. When the ABB took the stage and the lights came on we noticed Jack P. was playing instead of Warren (amazing show). My buddy and I looked at each other like, "where's Warren" but also very delighted Jack was there. The random guy to my left looks at us and says, "Where's Dickey Betts?", the only thing we could answer with was...."check your fax machine".....

there's a seat chart with the seat numbers floating around somewhere on the web, not sure how to attach it here. But if you're looking at the stage from your seats, the numbers go left to right

BROS, Joe the Lurker will see you there!! Sec C Row 13 Seats 1-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the things that is awesome about the Allman Brothers is their amazing, diehard fans. The Allman Brothers made it seem like an extended family early on, and managed to keep a much larger Brotherhood of fans of sorts up until the end. It also leads to one of my ABB-related pet peeves - fans who think they are some kind of insider expert. You hear them in line at shows blabbering about what a clueless roadie told them or repeating widely distributed stories they read in an article as if they were there. Almost everyone here has read the same books, articles, and gossip over the years. No need to repeat it ad nauseam here. Just enjoy the music that remains, let the dead rest.

God bless you, Bob. Somebody needed to say it. This dynamic is surely getting old.

My favorite story, and I've told it here before, was from seeing the ABB in lawn seats in Hartford in 2006, when they were playing with Tom Petty.

The guy behind us looked and sounded exactly like Joe Walsh, complete with bandanna and shades. He was watching the band and asking everyone around, "Which one's DUANE, man?"

HA! Good one! I got one from 2004. I saw the ABB here in Indy at The Lawn Whiteriver Park downtown. About half way through the show three guys came in looking like they just got off the golf course,beers in hand and appeared to be feeling pretty good. One leaned over to me and ask "which one is Dickey Betts?' I politely obliged his question and pointed to the gentleman on the left hand of the stage playing the bass. Could not resist that one!
😛 😛 😛 😉 😉

God bless you, Bob. Somebody needed to say it. This dynamic is surely getting old.

I'm sure we'll get an anecdote about the financial impact of A Decade of Hits this afternoon, regardless...

Based on presale availability I don’t think this is going to sell out unless they start leveraging dynamic pricing down. Lots of availability. The jump from $99 to $179 is huge and the next jump seems to be to $269.

I’m tempted to grab good seats at the $179 price point but leaning towards waiting. I can’t see the resale market for this show being too strong unless they start adding special guests or dropping rumors.

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God bless you, Bob. Somebody needed to say it. This dynamic is surely getting old.

I'm sure we'll get an anecdote about the financial impact of A Decade of Hits this afternoon, regardless...

You know Butch wasn't happy at all about that album, right?...

Based on presale availability I don’t think this is going to sell out

When someone else & I said this we got blasted, but 20,000 is a lot of seats to sell.

Anyway, you got seats. Have a great time.

section A row 11 seats 9 & 10. embarassed by what i paid. i have almost cried with joy about this show. i'm beyond excited for 2020. Brothers...2 ttb shows and black crowes all booked for me. God loves me and wants me to be happy!!!!!!!

section A row 11 seats 9 & 10. embarassed by what i paid. i have almost cried with joy about this show. i'm beyond excited for 2020. Brothers...2 ttb shows and black crowes all booked for me. God loves me and wants me to be happy!!!!!!!

Awesome!!! I’m in 116 row 10...yes, paid a pretty, pretty, pretty, penny. But I’m psyched!! Derek and Warren playing together - on Allman Brothers material - come on! Worth. Every. Penny.

[Edited on 1/7/2020 by Bossyman]

I have a granddaughter in Brooklyn getting me a ticket. I am getting sticker shock. I want to feel as as if The Allman Brothers Band has been resurrected but it an illusion. This is NOT the Allman Brothers Band. It's The Brothers.

What is wrong with me? I'm willing to pay this kind of money to see Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes basically pretend to be Duane Allman and Dickey Betts with Warren I presume pretending to be Gregg Allman on vocals and Duane Trucks pretending to be Butch. I saw the Mule twice this year and heard Warren Haynes sing Gregg's words on a couple of songs for a lot less money than this.

One original member of the band and a few members of the last lineup playing songs with the exception of Jaimoe and Chuck they didn't write or even record to be on an ABB record. With the exception of Jaimoe and a few songs Chuck played on these people didnt write or record these songs!!!

I love Derek and Warren but damn this feels like a rip off. I'd feel better if much of the money is going to Melinda Trucks.

Yeah it costs a fortune, but it's the 50th. I have to trust Derek's quote saying one last time so this is it. I never thought Derek would do any show like this again.
I've taken my wife to TTB and Mule a few times each and a front row Allman Betts Band, and while it's great, like i've said before it's nothing compared to an Allman concert. This is my once in a lifetime chance to take the wife to see the music I love the most in the world. We missed the Oct 2014 shows because we were new parents with an infant at home. I'm turning 40 this March too so happy birthday to me. I don't have the luxury of waiting for last second deals because airfare and lodging and all that but who cares, IT'S THE BROTHERS BACK TOGETHER AGAIN!!!

Somewhere is an interview clip with Oteil where he says "People pay ridiculous amounts of money to see us because they're counting on a spiritually uplifting experience." What Oteil Said!

[Edited on 1/7/2020 by Joe_the_Lurker]

What is wrong with me?

I'm not a doctor, but somebody's doing a very nice thing for you and you're slagging on the band...

What is wrong with me?

I'm not a doctor, but somebody's doing a very nice thing for you and you're slagging on the band...

I don't think Blackey is" slagging" on the band, at least I am not perceiving his post that way. He is very
passionate about the original lineup and he has the right to his opinion. I read nothing disparaging in it. I have respectfully agreed to disagree with him before. I get where he is coming from on some of his sentiments.

I can't tell people how to spend their money, to each there own as far as feeding the industry. Personally there is NO WAY I would pay these inflated prices. I love the ABB Derek,Warren,Jaimoe,Marc.......but these prices are beyond me.

Is this 50th anniversary "Brother" driven, formulated by the last lineup or did the industry look at this as a opportunity and present it to them?

What is wrong with me?

You run at the mouth (or keyboard) too much.
Nobody in the band is "pretending" to be a departed band member.
Put on the Brothers of the Road VHS and smoke a doob.
If you don't want to spend the $, don't go to the show.
Just STFU about it.

What is wrong with me?

I'm not a doctor, but somebody's doing a very nice thing for you and you're slagging on the band...

I don't think Blackey is" slagging" on the band, at least I am not perceiving his post that way. He is very
passionate about the original lineup and he has the right to his opinion. I read nothing disparaging in it.

Describing the players as "pretending" to be other musicians is pretty insulting, especially when you're talking about guys who filled these roles in this band for 10 or 20 years and who have always been very vocal about their love and respect for the band's entire history. Everybody here loves the original version of the band and 99% of everybody here thinks it's the best, but it's not a contest with any other lineup.

Is this 50th anniversary "Brother" driven, formulated by the last lineup or did the industry look at this as a opportunity and present it to them?

Who cares? If they didn't think it was right they wouldn't be doing it, and their comments say they think it's a meaningful tribute.

What is wrong with me?

I'm not a doctor, but somebody's doing a very nice thing for you and you're slagging on the band...

I don't think Blackey is" slagging" on the band, at least I am not perceiving his post that way. He is very
passionate about the original lineup and he has the right to his opinion. I read nothing disparaging in it.

Describing the players as "pretending" to be other musicians is pretty insulting, especially when you're talking about guys who filled these roles in this band for 10 or 20 years and who have always been very vocal about their love and respect for the band's entire history. Everybody here loves the original version of the band and 99% of everybody here thinks it's the best, but it's not a contest with any other lineup.

Is this 50th anniversary "Brother" driven, formulated by the last lineup or did the industry look at this as a opportunity and present it to them?

Who cares? If they didn't think it was right they wouldn't be doing it, and their comments say they think it's a meaningful tribute.

When you flash dollar signs in front of someone who knows what they think,decide or say? Ask the Robinson brothers.

[Edited on 1/8/2020 by jszfunk]

Okay when Warren Haynes is singing Blue Sky and adding clear Dickey licks to some of his Blue Sky or Jessica solo, maybe he isn't "pretending" to be Dickey but I guarantee you he is thinking about Dickey. And Gregg when he sings Statesboro Blues ABB style and Derek thinks about Duane Allman every time he playes slide on Statesboro Blues. Everytime.

Bloomberg and Forbes are rather accurate listing the net worth of famous people. Keith Richards is listed at 340 million from several sources. Clapton 300 million. With ABB people, Dickey 40 million, Gregg at his death 18 million, Warren 13 million, Derek 6 million, Jaimoe 1 million and 700 thousand dollars. Apparently the big difference between Gregg and Dickey is Gregg filed for bankruptcy in the early 1980's. It was in the papers. Both men have made millions off song writing royalties. The ASCAP and BMI royalties for radio airplay can be significant. I doubt it's the case now, but back in the mid nighties Butch Trucks posted here that other than all the airplay they got from Ramblin'Man and Jessica in 1973, the band gets more airplay on FM rock stations for selected tracks off many of their albums right now than ever before.

Radio stations have to keep up with the music they play and pay royalties through ASCAP or BMI. And the artist gets NOTHING!!! It's the song writers.

Gregg agreed to split Midnight Rider with Kim Payne 95% for Gregg and 05% for Kim because Kim helped him think of a lyric when Gregg became stuck. Sales of Idlewild South, Laid Back, A Decade of Hits, airplay of Midnight Rider etc has been a nice little income stream for Kim Payne even at just 5%=of one song. And the Brothers put Statesboro Blues on Fillmore East which sold over a million copies and the same track is on A Decade of Hits which sold over 2 million copies. That is a lot of royality money for whoever gets the money made by Blind Willie McTell.

In 2000 when the band was having the Dickey drama, Gregg was quoted in the press, " This is not about money. We all are millionaires and can retire right now."

Is this 50th anniversary "Brother" driven, formulated by the last lineup or did the industry look at this as a opportunity and present it to them?

Who cares? If they didn't think it was right they wouldn't be doing it, and their comments say they think it's a meaningful tribute.

When you flash dollar signs in front of someone who knows what they think,decide or say? Ask the Robinson brothers.

[Edited on 1/8/2020 by jszfunk]

I’d have to believe there might be some truth to that - people are only human & everyone needs money -
That said, the boys also see this as a way to honor music they & many people love - they won’t sell out on that end of it, Ever, not that they’re even doing that to begin with - a VERY special night is in store

Before going back to topic
hate sounding like a broken record.....

But gosh, wouldn’t it only be fitting to try to arrange something similar for Dickey - he’s still with us, few are more deserving & IMHO, such a show at the Beacon Theatre, harkening back to all those years of packed March shows, in honor of this amazing musician, would be just as wonderful

Thank you Bros., March 10 will be a treat!

[Edited on 1/9/2020 by Stephen]

Bloomberg and Forbes are rather accurate listing the net worth of famous people".....

blackey, you don't need to repeat the same financial stats you read on sugar packets in every thread. I enjoy your stories -- your stories, that you were a participant in -- but please stop dragging every thread towards the same tabloid gossip. We've all read the same books and articles you have, no need to rehash the same histories here.

I hope you have a great time at The Brothers show in March, it should be a great night of amazing music we all love.

Okay when Warren Haynes is singing Blue Sky and adding clear Dickey licks to some of his Blue Sky or Jessica solo, maybe he isn't "pretending" to be Dickey but I guarantee you he is thinking about Dickey. And Gregg when he sings Statesboro Blues ABB style and Derek thinks about Duane Allman every time he playes slide on Statesboro Blues. Everytime.

He definitely isn't pretending to be anyone; he's playing songs he's played hundreds of times. And this is not how good musicians make music. When these guys are playing, they're in the moment, listening to each other and reacting to what the others are playing and what they're feeling. If you're thinking consciously about something while playing, the thing that happens most is that you screw up. They don't need to think about these guys to play like them. They spent I don't know how many hours listening to them or playing with them. It's instinct. They sometimes talk about adding a particular person's flavor to what they're doing, but once you've practiced that, it's not something you have to stop and think about. They talk about this stuff all the time in interviews.

Bloomberg and Forbes are rather accurate listing the net worth of famous people.

They are not. Their estimates are about as good as you're going to get from an outsider, but they're not that accurate. Wealth is very hard to calculate and people try to game the system. At best, it's educated guesses built on educated guesses, which means it's not very factual. And you’re not getting those Allman Brothers numbers from Bloomberg and Forbes. They’re not spending much time examining the wealth of people worth $6 million.
Anyway: who cares about any of this? At best it's trivia, and it's not even good trivia. It doesn't tell you much of anything about the music, which is what most of us are interested in.

I’d have to believe there might be some truth to that - people are only human & everyone needs money
That said, the boys also see this as a way to honor music they & many people love - they won’t sell out on that end of it, Ever - a VERY special night is in store

Everyone has bills to pay, but all of these guys have their own gigs already. I'm doubtful any of them needs this money badly enough that they would do this type of show if they didn't think it felt right.

[Edited on 1/8/2020 by Marley]

Thank you porkchop. I hope I enjoy it too. I did okay before I retired but I'm not as wealthy as Dickey or even Jaimoe. So I'm not accustom to paying this kind of money to enjoy ABB music being played by musicians we should assume can play it better than any others working today.

Yes I imagine Warren, Derek, Chuck, Otiel, Jaimoe, Marc can play Allman Brothers music better than any group working today and Reese and Duane Trucks likely can rise to that level. Widespread Panic is sounding great and I well remember Reese with Stevie Ray Vaughn and was aware from 1970 when I first saw the ABB that Reese was the Peter Best of sorts of the Allman Brothers. Reese got bumped not because of his playing, but because they decided they needed Gregg to come in and do most of the singing. A couple of my buddies who were musicians back then saw a show or two when Duane's then unnamed band played at Second Coming shows. They indicated Dickey was singing a couple of songs, Duane was too and Berry was singing many including Trouble No More. They were blown away with Dickey, Duane, Berry, Butch, Jaimoe and Reese's playing. The chemistry and level of musicianship was very good. But the singing was just okay. Duane didnt impress at all and Dickey and Berry were fine on some songs but not that great on others. When they finally saw them under the ABB name at the park with Gregg singing, they then were really something. Likely to break out and be a big touring band. I'm a big fan of Gregg's organ playing but one of the guys I'm talking about felt Reese was better. But Gregg's singing made a huge difference in the quality of many of the songs.

I hope people will get behind Warren, Derek, Otiel, Jaimoe, Marc and Chuck etc to do a tribute show at the Fox in Atlanta or Beacon or somewhere for Dickey Betts while he is still living. You could have Allman Betts Band do a few songs and have people such as Jack Pearson and others who played with Dickey.

But this group called The Brothers playing at MSG in March could nail all of Dickey's songs such as Jessica, Blue Sky, Liz Reed, Seven Turns, Southbound etc. I mean nail them. Dickey would be the guest of honor and it would be his night. No need for Dickey to play.

[Edited on 1/8/2020 by blackey]

Unbelievable haha....I really hope that blackey is just trolling everyone with this nonsense. If that's in fact the case, my hat's off to him......funniest/longest/most dedicated troll job I've ever seen. Bravo.

This is how they should play Southbound at MSG. This is live from 1973 and it's starts like the album but keeps building and building and by Chuck's solo they are REALLY SMOKING!!! Jaimoe and Larmar showing why Chuck bonded with them. Well all 6 are smoking by halfway through. It is such a joy to hear a group of musicians play in this level. I bet MSG in March will be like this.

If you play this, play it loud and listen to them burn and leave a trail of smoke on the stage.

[Edited on 1/8/2020 by blackey]

Unbelievable haha....I really hope that blackey is just trolling everyone with this nonsense. If that's in fact the case, my hat's off to him......funniest/longest/most dedicated troll job I've ever seen. Bravo.

Blackey is not a troll. But he is passionate, I will say that. Lot's to read here, but dissecting this, I agree with 2 things: This concert is a great idea, and if Derek and Warren are in the middle of it, what can be bad?

It would also be deserved to honor Dickey Betts, and not just for his contributions to the Allman Brothers but rather his contributions to music. His resume of writing, playing and involvement with other artists is worthy of legend status. I would hope someone is inspired to put this together, just don't know who

I agree that Blackey is no troll.
He tends to repeat stuff over and over-a bit obsessive but not by any means a troll.
Seems like a good guy who is deeply devoted to the band.