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For the next greatest band of all time that comes out of the South, please don't make NYC your 2nd home. There's a perfectly good theatre (or arena) in Atlanta that we could do all this in.


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 7:14 am
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Although I benefited from the ABB playing at the Beacon all those years, I never understood why they were there.


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 7:52 am
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Although I benefited from the ABB playing at the Beacon all those years, I never understood why they were there.

Seriously?


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 7:54 am
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Although I benefited from the ABB playing at the Beacon all those years, I never understood why they were there.

Seriously?

Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA (based on where GA lived during his drug & sickest years). Yeah, Bill Graham liked them & let them open in NYC & Fillmore was their big break, but 20 years later NYC's Beacon seemed jolting & the crowd wasn't locals.


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 8:19 am
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Although I benefited from the ABB playing at the Beacon all those years, I never understood why they were there.

Seriously?

Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA (based on where GA lived during his drug & sickest years). Yeah, Bill Graham liked them & let them open in NYC & Fillmore was their big break, but 20 years later NYC's Beacon seemed jolting & the crowd wasn't locals.

I am sure there is a nice venue in Savannah where they could have played for ten nights.

There may have been a lot of out-of-towners at the Beacon shows, but the majority came from the Northeast.


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 9:05 am
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New York crowds were good to the band from its very early days, and between that and Bill Graham's support it became a second home. Later, they not only drew bigger crowds here, NYC audiences were willing and able to pay higher ticket prices, and more people wanted to travel to New York than (say) Atlanta. I wish the band had done a better job building its audience elsewhere but it's not a mystery why they played so many shows here.


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 9:13 am
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA (based on where GA lived during his drug & sickest years). Yeah, Bill Graham liked them & let them open in NYC & Fillmore was their big break, but 20 years later NYC's Beacon seemed jolting & the crowd wasn't locals.

By the band's own admission, they never caught on with the West coast crowd as much as they did on the East coast. Even in the final decades, they made fewer and fewer trips beyond the northeast and southeast.

A lot of people may have made the trek to the Beacon, but having lived in NYC during that time, I can assure you the majority were fans from the region. NYers love them some Allman Bros.


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Posted : March 10, 2020 9:27 am
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Yep Northeast loves the ABB. I've seen shows in Boston, Springfield, Burlington, Saratoga, etc always well attended an warm welcome.


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 10:12 am
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New York crowds were good to the band from its very early days, and between that and Bill Graham's support it became a second home. Later, they not only drew bigger crowds here, NYC audiences were willing and able to pay higher ticket prices, and more people wanted to travel to New York than (say) Atlanta. I wish the band had done a better job building its audience elsewhere but it's not a mystery why they played so many shows here.

As someone who regularly went to the Beacon to for theatre, lectures, and occasionally bands, it was a jolt to walk past there every March & see their marquee. To me, it was kinda like living in _______ & seeing "Home to the Knicks" on the arena's marquee for a month.

Definitely, NYC is the one place everyone aspires to play so that part always made sense - everyone who ever sang, danced, acted, etc. does a stint in NYC along the way. I know most of the crowd was from the NE. I never knew the part about them not catching on the West Coast. Hey, I was glad they were there.


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 10:32 am
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After the Fillmore closed, they played everywhere. I don't recall a series of shows anywhere. Just tours across the country.

In the early 90's they were invited to play the Beacon in the spirit of New York City and the Fillmore and Bill Graham who was important in the band making it commercially. Then the band realised in the big city they could play 20 or so shows and stay in one stop and make good money. No paying to have everything moved from one town to the other.

I think Atlanta and Georgia and Florida and North Carolina were important to them too. And Gregg liked to play the west coast.

New York, Atlanta, Georgia, Florida were part of the bands legacy.

I think Jacksonville, Florida, Atlanta and Piedmont Park and New York City were where the originial members felt were their town and lots of fans. Boston and North Carolina. In the 90's they said since Love Valley, North Carolina was a major market for them.

I imagine they could do a run in Atlanta similar to NYC.

[Edited on 3/10/2020 by blackey]


 
Posted : March 10, 2020 12:39 pm
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Respectfully speaking, the show last night was a prime example of why these shows (including the Beacon shows all these years) just didn't feel comfortable, at least to me. Most the people around me were people that flew in from New Orleans, Georgia, Tennessee, Carolinas, etc.; and were wonderful and hospitable . And to be frank, most the people I met that were locals were piss drunk and just yelling Melissa and Midnight Rider the whole show. And to the 2 people that pushed me in the back to get through instead of kindly saying "excuse me", Go $%&*%&%&@W^. Besides from the typical NY BS, the show was absolutely amazing and I'm still jaw dropped by the whole thing. Thanks to the guys for putting it together, and Jaimoe...for being himself...his words at the end brought tears to the place.


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 8:09 am
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For the next greatest band of all time that comes out of the South, please don't make NYC your 2nd home. There's a perfectly good theatre (or arena) in Atlanta that we could do all this in.

Being a Snellville resident myself... I couldn't agree more Grin


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 8:23 am
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Respectfully speaking, the show last night was a prime example of why these shows (including the Beacon shows all these years) just didn't feel comfortable, at least to me. Most the people around me were people that flew in from New Orleans, Georgia, Tennessee, Carolinas, etc.; and were wonderful and hospitable . And to be frank, most the people I met that were locals were piss drunk and just yelling Melissa and Midnight Rider the whole show. And to the 2 people that pushed me in the back to get through instead of kindly saying "excuse me", Go $%&*%&%&@W^. Besides from the typical NY BS, the show was absolutely amazing and I'm still jaw dropped by the whole thing. Thanks to the guys for putting it together, and Jaimoe...for being himself...his words at the end brought tears to the place.

Probably not a great sample size, NYers are some of the nicest people on earth and some of the most devoted music fans. I've been at Beacon shows where the out-of-towners are the shouting drunks. I've been at shows in Florida and Georgia where it's the locals singing their drunken made up lyrics to "Melissa". Every crowd in every town has them no matter where you are. I think the bigger the venue and the ticket, the more of that kind of behavior you're going to get. I get that it's frustrating seeing a southern band embraced in another region, but they wouldn't keep going there if there weren't fans there.

Besides, the obnoxious drunks are usually in the for the day from NJ, you can't hold that against NYC 😉


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Posted : March 11, 2020 8:40 am
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If you were at the DB and GS show in 1978 when the ABB reunited in Central Park and saw the reaction you would not say what you are saying...and they were all locals. NY is a giant ABB hotbed for years with great fans


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 8:59 am
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For the next greatest band of all time that comes out of the South, please don't make NYC your 2nd home. There's a perfectly good theatre (or arena) in Atlanta that we could do all this in.

I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion on this. They started at The Beacon in 1989 and set up a residency for literally decades. I think I've seen them there about 40 times. That was part of my vacation every year. Regarding many folks from the area, well yeah that makes sense. People live around there. If they played in your back yard the brunt of people would be local.

Having said that, a LOT of people traveled there from out of the region, myself included. I've met a lot of people from all over the country and even from Europe and Canada that would show up. I think they established themselves as a March institution for over two decades at The Beacon alone. That doesn't even count going back to The Fillmore.


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Posted : March 11, 2020 10:25 am
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA

Me too. But as we all know, the world revolves around NYC
😛


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 10:45 am
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA

Me too. But as we all know, the world revolves around NYC

Funny how Capitalism works ain't it?


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Posted : March 11, 2020 11:14 am
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA

Me too. But as we all know, the world revolves around NYC

Funny how Capitalism works ain't it?

No, quite the contrary. The brothers play there the most, because that is where the money is, everything else is arrogance.


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 11:23 am
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA

Me too. But as we all know, the world revolves around NYC

Funny how Capitalism works ain't it?

No, quite the contrary. The brothers play there the most, because that is where the money is, everything else is arrogance.

I think that's what he meant with the comment about capitalism.


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 11:57 am
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA

Me too. But as we all know, the world revolves around NYC

Funny how Capitalism works ain't it?

No, quite the contrary. The brothers play there the most, because that is where the money is, everything else is arrogance.

This is exactly the opposite of "to the contrary".


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Posted : March 11, 2020 11:58 am
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA

Me too. But as we all know, the world revolves around NYC
😛

Hey, BigV we're agreeing on something!!!!

I was born in the south & heard my 1st ABB concert there w/Duane. Moved to Manhattan at 18 for college & never looked back. I was merely remarking that despite NYC being the center of the universe for most things artistic, I still thought it was a little incongruous for the ABB to set up a residency there. They did, it was great, and it's over. Doesn't matter what I thought.


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 12:56 pm
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Respectfully speaking, the show last night was a prime example of why these shows (including the Beacon shows all these years) just didn't feel comfortable, at least to me. Most the people around me were people that flew in from New Orleans, Georgia, Tennessee, Carolinas, etc.; and were wonderful and hospitable . And to be frank, most the people I met that were locals were piss drunk and just yelling Melissa and Midnight Rider the whole show. And to the 2 people that pushed me in the back to get through instead of kindly saying "excuse me", Go $%&*%&%&@W^. Besides from the typical NY BS, the show was absolutely amazing and I'm still jaw dropped by the whole thing. Thanks to the guys for putting it together, and Jaimoe...for being himself...his words at the end brought tears to the place.

Can you share a bit of what he said?


 
Posted : March 11, 2020 1:53 pm
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Yeah. I always wondered why they weren't playing a residency in Atlanta or LA

Me too. But as we all know, the world revolves around NYC
😛

Hey, BigV we're agreeing on something!!!!

I was born in the south & heard my 1st ABB concert there w/Duane. Moved to Manhattan at 18 for college & never looked back. I was merely remarking that despite NYC being the center of the universe for most things artistic, I still thought it was a little incongruous for the ABB to set up a residency there. They did, it was great, and it's over. Doesn't matter what I thought.

WooHoo! Born in S.F. and reared in Savannah, Ga. No desire to visit, N.Y. Boston, Jersey or Philly. Too many damn Yankees.

Wait for it.
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Posted : March 11, 2020 2:50 pm
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