"End of the Line"

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I remember watching this when it aired --- thanks for posting!!!

How pertinent is that quote from Gregg @ the 25 min mark --- "I'm sure Donald Trump has some sort of blues somewhere"

I've seen this a few times over the years, such a great period for this lineup and was nice to see the Allmans on TV somewhat often in the mid-1990s (Austin City Limits, Letterman, Conan, etc). Love that they included "Dreams" on a national broadcast. It's only part of full show, I wonder if the rest of the footage is still out there. Like most ABB fans, I'm not a big "Ramblin' Man" fan but I never warmed to this arrangement from the Warren/Dickey years.

One thing that stands out that makes me appreciate Derek - he always seemed to do something different with "Statesboro Blues", while still making it sound classic. Warren seemed to have settled on the exact same licks for 25 years.

porkchopbob this is a great live version of Ramblin' Man. Put on the headphones and let it rock. After the Chuck/Lamar lineup they never seemed to get it right.

porkchopbob this is a great live version of Ramblin' Man. Put on the headphones and let it rock.

blackey, that's from the Winterland '73, also appeared on Wipe the Windows. If you enjoy the Chuck & Lamar period, do yourself a favor and check out the whole show.

Yes the Winterland show was included as part of an EAP rerelease some years ago - whereas WTWCTODGas is a comp

porkchopbob this is a great live version of Ramblin' Man. Put on the headphones and let it rock. After the Chuck/Lamar lineup they never seemed to get it right.

You are correct. Listening through headphones you can hear how the band just goes off at about 5:10 when Dickey takes it into the stratosphere. Total jam. May be my favorite Dickey solo.

One thing that stands out that makes me appreciate Derek - he always seemed to do something different with "Statesboro Blues", while still making it sound classic. Warren seemed to have settled on the exact same licks for 25 years.

Never understood why Warren ever played slide in the ABB once Derek became a band mate. Going back to the Duane / Dickey years, Dickey was an acoustic slide player who acquiesced to Duane's leadership and ability. Warren has stated that he learned to play slide in standard and never desired to play in open tunings, Derek lives there. Different approaches, styles and tones. During the '89 re-union tour, Warren's slide playing from that point on sounded stale and I actually grew to dislike it.

I prefer Derek's slide playing but disagree about Warren post 1989. He definitely had an Allman Brothers sound. I'm thinking how good he sounds on something like the studio version of No One To Run With, or End of the Line. Absolute classic slide playing. I remember the first time I heard "Mountains Win Again" by Blues Traveler with Warren as guest. My first thought was ABB and my second was "that must be Warren." He was his own man for sure and more macho sounding, but his power is also what gave the band some credibility 1989 on.

He definitely let Derek play more slide than he did when they were in the band together and the two different slide sounds definitely gave the band some variety in the sound, which to me was always appreciated. I totally dug the two extended slide sections in songs like Aint Waitin Time No More during the Derek + Warren era.

And I get that mileage varies for sure.

Never understood why Warren ever played slide in the ABB once Derek became a band mate. Going back to the Duane / Dickey years, Dickey was an acoustic slide player who acquiesced to Duane's leadership and ability. Warren has stated that he learned to play slide in standard and never desired to play in open tunings, Derek lives there. Different approaches, styles and tones. During the '89 re-union tour, Warren's slide playing from that point on sounded stale and I actually grew to dislike it.

I much prefer Derek's slide playing, but Warren is still great on slide. Sometimes his licks get repetitive, but his meatier, more traditional approach on some of the old blues songs and 90s ABB tunes like "Devil's Sea" and "No One to Run With" are great. His pitch can get spotty beyond the 17th fret - his "Hoochie Coochie Man" intro and "Dreams" solos can get a little rough to my ears, but his slide on some of those songs is just as iconic. I thought Warren was still a little rough on slide in 1989 and didn't really hit his stride until 1991 or so, and just got better by the mid-1990s.

Open tunings don't make for a better slide player, the same notes are still on both fret boards. Jack Pearson plays in standard and his playing is effortless. You might not be able to slide a major chord on all 6 strings, but how often in a song is that even necessary? Andy Aledort said that Warren told him he played slide in standard because Dickey didn't want to wait for him to switch guitars.

Open tunings don't make for a better slide player, the same notes are still on both fret boards.

Back in the mid 70s when I first started to play slide, I began in standard and all it took for me to switch and learn a new discipline was a fellow player introducing me to open E, I've never looked back.

Open tunings don't make for a better slide player, the same notes are still on both fret boards.

Back in the mid 70s when I first started to play slide, I began in standard and all it took for me to switch and learn a new discipline was a fellow player introducing me to open E, I've never looked back.

I play slide in both open and standard tunings. Open E definitely has it's advantages. But a lot of Open E slide players use it as a crutch and just play the same riffs around the chord (like Dickey did in the mid-1970s, or Joe Walsh sometimes does) rather than learning the adjusted scales on the fret board. That's what makes Derek's slide playing so unique, he doesn't fall into that tradition. But you listen to Duane or Jack and Derek play "Dreams", it doesn't matter what tuning they are in.

Open tunings don't make for a better slide player, the same notes are still on both fret boards.

Back in the mid 70s when I first started to play slide, I began in standard and all it took for me to switch and learn a new discipline was a fellow player introducing me to open E, I've never looked back.

I play slide in both open and standard tunings. Open E definitely has it's advantages. But a lot of Open E slide players use it as a crutch and just play the same riffs around the chord (like Dickey did in the mid-1970s, or Joe Walsh sometimes does) rather than learning the adjusted scales on the fret board. That's what makes Derek's slide playing so unique, he doesn't fall into that tradition. But you listen to Duane or Jack and Derek play "Dreams", it doesn't matter what tuning they are in.

While we are having a nice discussion about an art form we both practice, I would like to throw in a couple of takes about the players you've mentioned. Joe Walsh - Simple approach, nothing to difficult or challenging, but always a good fit for the music he's written. Jack Pearson is a beast. Warren is an aggressive player who attacks, too small a set of licks in his slide catalog, kind of like Dickey in that respect. The one player mentioned here that I just don't here anything "amazing" from is (sorry) Andy Aledort. His notes "linger", lots of "drag"...not very clean, not impressed. But thanks for the conversation.

While we are having a nice discussion about an art form we both practice, I would like to throw in a couple of takes about the players you've mentioned. Joe Walsh - Simple approach, nothing to difficult or challenging, but always a good fit for the music he's written. Jack Pearson is a beast. Warren is an aggressive player who attacks, too small a set of licks in his slide catalog, kind of like Dickey in that respect. The one player mentioned here that I just don't here anything "amazing" from is (sorry) Andy Aledort. His notes "linger", lots of "drag"...not very clean, not impressed. But thanks for the conversation.

Joe Walsh has always been economical, but also super melodic. He reminds me a bit of George Harrison or David Gilmore (not in style, but in approach) in that his solos were always deliberately scored melody rather than an improvised jam.

Agree about Aledort's slide playing. He's talent but a bit of a hired gun, has to play a lot of different styles as a working guitarist. Never had a defining sound that jumps out at you.

Andy is good at explaining how great guitarists get their signature sound and style. Just watched Andy's video on Gary Moore the other night and discovered some complicated licks Gary did in solos that made Gary's sound unique. All the great players have that. Something that puts a stamp on their playing that is unique to them.

Andy is also an expert on how Jimi Hendrix played. Jimi had his own thing too. And Andy is an expert on how to make a good Strat sound even better.

But Andy, as someone said, doesn't seem to have his own style.

Speaking of Strats, I always liked the tone Warren got on that Strat with the red headstock. Too bad someone stole it and Warren was never able to find it.

The best slide playing on the old songs played by the Allman Brothers is by Duane Allman. Dickey said seeing Jessie Ed Davis is what flipped Duane's slide switch but his style came from listening to harmonica players. What Duane did on songs such as One Way Out, Statesboro Blues, Must Have Did Somebody Wrong etc on those old records by the ABB is as good as slide playing gets in the ABB. NONE of the later guitar players in the ABB topped Duane.

The meh so what comments about Andy’s playing would change w/a listen to his Live at the Northstar CD
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Not saying he isn't a fantastic guitarist, you'd have to be to keep up with Dickey. Just doesn't have a style that is immediately recognizable, he's a bit of a chameleon. I'll check out the album.

Am almost certain you’ll hear his playing differently w/him as frontman - great 4 piece band w/organist & rhythm section, & Andy knocks it outta the park - wailing hard blues-rock - a lot there, would be the equivalent of a 2-LP set

ANDY! showing some of his tricky licks.

Am almost certain you’ll hear his playing differently w/him as frontman - great 4 piece band w/organist & rhythm section, & Andy knocks it outta the park - wailing hard blues-rock - a lot there, would be the equivalent of a 2-LP set

No doubt; it's his slide playing I find highly mediocre.

Am almost certain you’ll hear his playing differently w/him as frontman - great 4 piece band w/organist & rhythm section, & Andy knocks it outta the park - wailing hard blues-rock - a lot there, would be the equivalent of a 2-LP set

No doubt; it's his slide playing I find highly mediocre.

Yeah, Andy can play, but he's way more at home on a Strat playing Texas blues. Here's some of his slide work which isn't my favorite.

Yes Andy can play and is a great one to break down the various styles of the great guitar players and Andy knows Hendrix forward and backwards.

Porkchopbob is right I think. Andy is at his best with blues and Texas blues and when he is playing a Strat.

Speaking of Strats, to me Warren Haynes' best slide tone was back when he was playing that Strat with the red headstock. Some @&%$@#^ stole the guitar and a medicine bottle Duane once used and that is why Warren quit using it. A.Paul said Warren had guitar stores, pawn shops etc checked extensively and never found the guitar.

Speaking of Strats, to me Warren Haynes' best slide tone was back when he was playing that Strat with the red headstock.

I prefer Warren playing slide on his Les Paul - way more tone. Just sounds more ABB to my ears, his strat on "Blue Sky" always sounded off to me. But I'm biased, I don't like strats very much.

That is the beauty of music, we all hear something different from the same notes.

Warren's slide playing is one of the main reasons that we even have a Forum to discuss this stuff. In 89, the ABB returned with the closest to the original sound that they had since Duane died. Warren provided that sound and feel. His slide playing is much closer to Duane than Derek's playing is.

Those first few tours after the 89 reunion were full of people saying "Who The Hell is this guy???". His playing continued to expand and grow with each tour. He helped give the ABB back their sound and credibility and without him - Derek would never have had a chance to join.

As for Andy, he is getting quite a lack of respect and credit IMO. Andy is an incredibly skilled player with killer musical theory knowledge. I think some here are judging without having even really heard him.

Remember that Andy was not some "slide" player, he was just an incredible player and the ability to play slide is just one of his "tools/abilities". He is much more of a straight player than a slide guy. That makes it even more incredible that he could assume that role with Dickey. Most "straight" players could never take on a gig playing slide all night. Then add to the fact that it is Duane Allman's slide work that he has to play.

Are Derek, Warren and Jack better slide players than Andy? Sure but they are all know for their slide abilities. No shame at all in not being the "best" when compared to those guys.

Andy's contribution to guitar is massive. 30+ years of guitar guidance, lessons and interviews with so many greats. He has the ability to breakdown peoples' playing, explain the theory and how to play it. He can play so many styles and techniques so well.

He has taught guitar in the magazines for so long. In eras where those magazines were some of the only resources that people could find to learn. Andy was where players went before there was a Youtube/Google.

I wrote it here before and I have mentioned it to Alan Paul - Andy Aledort belongs in the R&R Hall Of Fame as a Builder. The number of players that he helped is staggering.

Great perspective CM!

Great perspective CM!

Takes a lot of balls and confidence to take a gig like that. Andy's playing is much more suited to the "Dickey" role in the ABB so to just grab a slide and say "I have got this" - takes balls. Also knowing that everyone will compare you to Duane, Warren, Derek and Jack - most players would walk away as you just can't win. If it bothered Andy or made him a bit nervous, I never saw it or heard it in his playing.

Andy was great each time that I saw them and I think for that period of time in Dickey's career - Andy helped make those tours shine at times. Maybe Dickey was starting to falter at times and it was usually the late starting shows but Andy was bang on each time.