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Lindsey Buckingham Leaves Fleetwood Mac, Mike Campbell Joins

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Stephen
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A lot of what I've read recently (since Lindsey's departure) is that his & Christine's CD is quite good -- one of those curiosities I'd like to hear sometime -- Hypnotized, 1 of those tunes that stays w/ya


 
Posted : April 16, 2018 8:39 am
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so you really think mike and neil are going to walk in and start demanding songs be played? yes the song was played when buckingham was not there. those were different times though as it was an active band still touring yearly and making new music.

you can continue to tell me sales=great artistic creations. go buy your justin beiber albums then

You are either comical or delusional.

Where did I say a thing about Mike or Neil saying a thing? I never mentioned it at all.

I never said a thing about sales and artistic creations.

Commercial failure where sales drop 90% is due to one factor - The Customer telling you that they do not like your product. If your local restaurant served you a Prime Rib dinner one night and then Spam the next night at the same cost - would you be happy?

Why did Tusk not sell as well? Took way too long, far too much filler but mostly the material was not as good. If Lindsey had spent 2 months or ten years the results would have been the same.

It should have been a single album with all the excess Lindsey crap left off. They all know that now - even Lindsey.

sales did not drop 90%. you are the one on crack. rumours worldwide sales in 1981 were roughly 12 million. tusk sales in 1981 worldwide were roughly 4 million. thats not a 90% sales drop.

also a bad analogy as rumours was a single album and tusk was a double album selling for more than the standard cost of a regular double album. they were not selling different things at the same price.

finally imo no ones material on tusk is as strong as rumours. nicks has 3 good songs on tusk, mcvie 3 and buckingham 5 and out of those 11 songs i'd say only 6 are close to whats on rumours

[Edited on 4/16/2018 by matt05]


 
Posted : April 16, 2018 8:56 am
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It's funny that you mentioned "Oh Well." I was surprised to see that song appear on the live album in 1980 from the Buckingham / Nicks line-up but also enjoyed it thoroughly; they did it right.

When I saw Tom Petty /ABB double bill some years back, Tom Petty played "Oh Well" and ripped it up. (I believe it appears on a live boxed set of his).

So, since Mike Campbell has already shown that he can do that song justice, this new Mac just may well play that song.

It could be that they will air "Stop Dragging My Heart Around " also?


 
Posted : April 16, 2018 8:59 am
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Why did Tusk not sell as well? Took way too long, far too much filler but mostly the material was not as good. If Lindsey had spent 2 months or ten years the results would have been the same....It should have been a single album with all the excess Lindsey crap left off.

It was a disaster in many ways, Lindsey went full screech singing on a few, and his material overdrenched the album, like they gave the reins to him. In a weird way I like the silly Tusk song. In his defense, it was not as strong Nicks / McVie material either.

A not better than, but suitable follow up to Rumours if a single album. Agreed.....


 
Posted : April 16, 2018 10:01 am
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Why did Tusk not sell as well? Took way too long, far too much filler but mostly the material was not as good. If Lindsey had spent 2 months or ten years the results would have been the same....It should have been a single album with all the excess Lindsey crap left off.

It was a disaster in many ways, Lindsey went full screech singing on a few, and his material overdrenched the album, like they gave the reins to him. In a weird way I like the silly Tusk song. In his defense, it was not as strong Nicks / McVie material either.

A not better than, but suitable follow up to Rumours if a single album. Agreed.....

and nicks actually has more total time on the album than buckinghams 9 songs. each one of stevies song is about 5 minutes or longer. they are just too long. again fleetwood told the band he wanted a double album. all buckingham could do was pretty much put everything deemed complete on the album. mcvie only had 2 songs that didn't make tusk that she offered up, nicks had 5 more, 2 were released a few years ago on 24 karat gold, 1 was released on her album wild heart, 1 of the FM album say you will and 1 is unreleased. nicks had more songs that she had set aside for her debut solo album and didn't offer them to the band. buckinham had 2 songs that didn't make the album.


 
Posted : April 16, 2018 10:48 am
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Personally I would love the band to come out and play only Green era songs while still charging the yuppy crowd $300. The puzzled look on faces would be incredible.

Yeah that would be awesome! They would be like....huh...?

I remember about 18-20 yrs ago I made a doctor friend of mine at the hospital I work at a mix of Green FM tunes. They never knew of that era or those songs. I dont think they were really into being more of the fans of the Nicks Buckingham lineup . Oh well, no pun intended.

Mike Campbell could probably pull of the Greeney stuff.

I always wanted to hear Warren and Derek take on "Coming Your Way" Great Harmony guitar work from the original.

[Edited on 4/16/2018 by jszfunk]


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Posted : April 16, 2018 1:09 pm
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JSZ, good call on Coming Your Way. So many good harmony leads by the Mac.

Interestingly for ABB fans, Peter Green and John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers did “You Don’t Love Me” on their 1968 album A Hard Road. I have to assume the Allmans knew that version, as they are pretty close.


 
Posted : April 16, 2018 4:56 pm
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Fleetwood Mac can still sell plenty of tickets without Lindsey Buckingham.

Wonder how a tour with him but without Stevie Nicks would sell. Hmmmm.

well here are the thoughts of fans on the rolling stones forum

https://iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,2532684,page=7

Yeah. Try a FM tour at this point without Rhiannon, Sara and Landslide. See how sales go.


 
Posted : April 16, 2018 6:09 pm
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FYI - This Neil Finn guy's a pretty good guitar player himself. He's a great vocalist and songwriter. I've never been a gigantic Fleetwood Mac fan, but I'll be interested in hearing whatever comes out of this.


 
Posted : April 17, 2018 1:01 pm
Stephen
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Fleetwood Mac can still sell plenty of tickets without Lindsey Buckingham.

Wonder how a tour with him but without Stevie Nicks would sell. Hmmmm.

well here are the thoughts of fans on the rolling stones forum

https://iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,2532684,page=7

Yeah. Try a FM tour at this point without Rhiannon, Sara and Landslide. See how sales go.

However, if FM was to do a tour which, instead of concentrating on that era, concentrated instead on the Boston Tea Party era w/Peter Green, Danny Kirwan etc -- IMO a lot of people would be interested in that
Nick Mason is doing the same thing w/Pink Floyd, putting together a band, Saucerful of Secrets, that is playing the music of the Syd era Grin Grin


 
Posted : April 17, 2018 2:15 pm
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This thread got me jonesing. So I went back and listened to some live Peter Green Mac tonight. No matter how many times I hear it, that band never ceases to blow me away. I think partially because it’s such a quick snapshot in time. But man, they’re awesome.


 
Posted : April 17, 2018 5:37 pm
cmgst34
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My goodness. Green used SPACE so well. Bonamassa could use a bit of that. Green let it breath and you can literally feel the tension he builds. Straight outta that B.B. school.


 
Posted : April 17, 2018 5:47 pm
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This thread got me jonesing. So I went back and listened to some live Peter Green Mac tonight. No matter how many times I hear it, that band never ceases to blow me away. I think partially because it’s such a quick snapshot in time. But man, they’re awesome.

Agree!

Green really had it going on. Monster player. It does not get to much better than the Boston Tea Party recordings.

This is a fun one!!

Twist and Shout

On we Jam

Fleetwood Mac Encore Jam

I was wanted to hear Derek do a cover of the song below. Seems to fit him.

Peter Green solo
Give me Back My Freedom


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Posted : April 18, 2018 3:31 am
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I saw the reunited FM back in 1997 and it was joy to see them together. They had extra musicians on stage doing what the 5 of them did back in the lat '70s....but oh well (pun intended).

Rumours, despite being run into the ground by rock radio over the decades is one of my all time favorite albums. The Fleetwood Mac album is not far behind and about half of Tusk is right up there with the previous two.

That said, what they've been doing on tour in 2015-2017 wasn't so exciting for me since it was incredibly predictable.

I am actually more interested in this tour now than I would have been otherwise. I think we stand a very good chance of hearing Oh Well and couple pre-Buckingham/Nicks tracks.....like the band used to do on the 1976 & 1977 tours very well. I'd be really like to hear Hypnotized, Why, Spare Me a Little, Station Man. They won't go too heavy that direction but I predict a couple. I'm making that calll that Campbell gets a lead vocal part on Stop Draggin My Heart Around duet.

And I suspect ticket prices will be cheaper than they would have otherwise been...


 
Posted : April 18, 2018 4:51 am
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about half of Tusk is right up there with the previous two.

Why they failed to realize that a single album was what was needed is beyond me? Well cocaine and ego.

I'd be really like to hear Hypnotized, Why, Spare Me a Little, Station Man. They won't go too heavy that direction but I predict a couple.

I would love a couple from that era also. But agree that they won't likely go there aside from maybe one song.


 
Posted : April 18, 2018 6:19 am
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