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Kirk West To Showcase The Brothers at Gallery West,Talks 71 Tx Release

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plqmule
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Cool Kirk interview.
He says Texas 71 comin out. Grin

https://www.soundandsoulonline.com/2020/06/15/seriously-intimate-kirk-west-to-showcase-the-brothers-at-gallery-west-june-19th-20th/?fbclid=IwAR0btdAy-P_1Kyt-TjBW82XLlPec115v9-VgAUf8mXlxn_hhgqQsuvw9p04

You photographed the Allman Brothers for the first time in 1973. In 2020, you went up to New York City to photograph The Brothers. Does it still excite you to see this music goin’ around again?

Oh, good Lord, yes, Aaron! Absolutely! Number one, the show at the Garden was absolutely spectacular. The plan is that they’re remixin’ and re-editing the video and sometime this year, that’ll be released on a CD/DVD and streaming. But yeah, it’s exciting as hell. In addition to all the photography stuff that I’m proud of, I mean, it’s full circle, Aaron. I felt that way when I photographed the last show– when they played their last show in New York at The Beacon in 2014. I was no longer working for the band, and so I just shot it like I was a kid shootin’ pictures for the first time. It was a wonderful deal! This was a bit of that, but also a proud re-involvement.

When they got off the van, the garden had done this little walkway from the underground parking to the dressing room. They’d built a little Highway 41 with peach trees… It was a nice little entrance, and Derek climbed out of the van. He said, “I was nervous, Kirk… Until I saw you.” (Laughs) And then I said, “This is just the way it ought to be! It’s goin’ to be just fine! (Laughs) It had been 10 years since I had worked for the band. Although I’ve seen them throughout, things changed. But the fact is that this music is still important to the world, to the people. We’ve got projects comin’ out all the time! At the end of last year, we put out a 10 LP box set called Trouble No More. It was 50 years of Allman Brother’s music. We’ve got a package we’re doing now, live tracks from ’70 and ’71 that have never been released. There’s a lot of cool things. We’re putting out a show that will be available only at the gift shop of The Big House. You’re not going to be able to buy it on the internet or nothin’. It’s a show that’s never circulated, a live show from Texas in ’71. There’s a big video project being developed that will focus on the Duane era that we’ve uncovered and tracked down. There’s a lot of stuff coming out in the next 12 months. And it’s all very exciting, Aaron, to be re-engaged at this level, at this depth there with this music. Grin

[Edited on 6/23/2020 by plqmule]

 
Posted : June 19, 2020 6:56 pm
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Sell a show from Texas 1971 only at The Big House - that is a bad idea and really makes no sense at all.

The ABB doing all that in 12 months. I will believe it when I see it. It would be their most active year of releases ever. I hope I am wrong as I would love it all.

I am releasing a CD tomorrow but you can only buy it at my house. That way I can sell as few as possible. 😛

 
Posted : June 19, 2020 8:09 pm
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Yeah small marketing strategy. Just get it out there! I'm in.

 
Posted : June 20, 2020 9:41 am
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Grin cool, probly a show from their late-Sept run - 9/26 Sam Houston Colesium - the 27th, State Fair Colesium, Dallas - 28th, Austin Municipal Auditorium

They were also in Houston 6/6 & San Antone 6/10
All database info 😉

[Edited on 6/20/2020 by Stephen]

 
Posted : June 20, 2020 10:02 am
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Don't get me wrong - put it out by all means. Just no sense to limit it to people going to The Big House - their fans especially those from the Duane era are not getting any younger. And we have all sat around waiting on promised shows for so long. I'm sorry but it makes little sense at all. It will just lead to pirated copies sadly but true.

For that matter - give it for free online and make money with ads. I have gotten the last three Joe Bonamassa albums for free like that. Gets millions of hits that way. After 50 years, every day that shows sit on a shelf is another wasted day.

As for all the rest - I would love if it all happens and I am wrong.

 
Posted : June 20, 2020 7:15 pm
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Amazing that Kirk "leaks" a new release from the original six and it gets meager response. Come on people that is why we are all here!

I can't wait. Might be same set list but as you know it was never the same.

Thank you to the folks making this happen!

Let it eat!!!

 
Posted : June 21, 2020 1:38 pm
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Yes, yes, yes. I want all the original band releases I can get. But please don't make me drive all the way to Macon, Georgia to get Texas 71.

Dickey Betts: " Berry Oakley was kinda our ambassador to our fans. He would go out and talk with the fans to see if they were cool with things. Berry was always making sure the promoters weren't changing too much for tickets so our people could afford to come see us. And he was always going to the vendors making sure Allman Brothers merchandise was worth what was being charged"

Hooray for Berry Oakley!! He loved and cared about the fans.

 
Posted : June 21, 2020 2:52 pm
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This is all great to hear. This thread would certainly get more attention if it was re-titled. Like to give it a shot piqmule? Something like "Kirk West announces plans for new ABB releases this coming year"

 
Posted : June 22, 2020 8:47 am
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Selling an exclusive 1971 live CD at the Big House is ridiculous, but it wouldn't
surprise me at all. This is a band that only sold its most popular t-shirt design (the
1969 mushroom logo) through Hittin' The Note (and not at their concerts). So this
is par-for-the-course....

 
Posted : June 22, 2020 1:05 pm
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Nobody really looked after the fans after Berry Oakley died in 1972. Gregg and Dickey would mention in interviews occasionally about Berry making sure the fans were happy with merchandising that was worth its price, ticket prices not getting expensive and generally making sure the fans were pleased with the band and its activities.

That was no longer a priority apparently after Berry with band members and with Gregg being addicted to narcotics and an alcoholic and according to Butch Trucks apparently Dickey also was an alcoholic and a drug addict ( Butch's exact words) is it any surprise? I've had close friends addicted to drugs and honestly you can't count on them for anything.

Butch Trucks 1975 quote to the press: " You can't count on Gregg Allman for anything".:)

 
Posted : June 22, 2020 1:37 pm
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Fans today are well looked-after too imho w/stuff like the Fillmore West & Trouble No More releases - guessing they’ll figure a way to get it to their diehard fans, depending on how many are made-available etc

It’s an uncirculated show Kirk said - keen to know more Cool Smile

 
Posted : June 22, 2020 1:50 pm
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This is all great to hear. This thread would certainly get more attention if it was re-titled. Like to give it a shot piqmule? Something like "Kirk West announces plans for new ABB releases this coming year"

Done. Cool

 
Posted : June 22, 2020 5:35 pm
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Video project focusing on the Duane era!!! YES!

He also mentioned that Derek got sick. Didn’t hear about that- seems like he did OK.

Thanks for sharing

 
Posted : June 22, 2020 6:42 pm
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Agree with sentiments above ^ bad idea overall to only provide an uncirculated through one entity. That is . . . unless you work at the Big House or own something in Macon that stands to turn a profit from visitors coming to the area. Whatever. Not surprised. The video project is the only thing that has my interest. So put that out and a 1998-99 show(s) and/or the 98 PPV on DVD with Jack Pearson and those will pull me in. But I already have plenty of original generation ABB now.

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 5:23 am
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I’d sure like to see some sort of officially-released 1998-99 2- or 3-CD comp - the was a pivotal juncture/turning point in the band’s history
...realistically of course I know it won’t happen - as always, traders, THANKS

Agree w/Holt, a set w/Dreams, & mayb 1 or 2 others, as the common song between the two years, would really be cool - Jack & Derek were both just great, & Oteil also has a lot to do w/why there are so many good shows from that era
They both went otherworldly on Dreams

Stoked to know more about Texas 71:D

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 5:57 am
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Looks like I missed someones post that is gone now ^.

But a '71 Dreams might be nice if it exists in decent quality. Better yet make it a more than conscious effort to put something out with both Hot 'Lanta *AND* MJ on the tracklist so that Butch's estate and Jaimoe get a cut with the group credit.

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 8:36 am
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:D2/28/71 Brewer Fieldhouse is close but I don’t see how anything could top the Dreams from 9/19 Stonybrook by the original band

Was referring to your mention of 1998/99 & how off the charts Jack & Derek took it in both years (previous post quoted Smile )

Really no need for anything ‘official’ to be ‘released’ I suppose from 1998-99 - there are many good-sounding shows from both years in trading circles - DATs were all the rage then, even audience tapes sounded good 😮 😉

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 9:01 am
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I don't agree. It is an insult to the higher level of talent and skill of JP to not officially release something from his period of time in the band. Especially when you consider that Bert himself stated in print just days after GA passed that JP would be picking a release and . . . Especially when you consider the fact that the lineups directly before and after that time period have MORE than a handful of official releases then it is pretty clear management and the archive selection committee has consciously chosen not to. It is pretty clear to me that they are choosing name recognition and making money first over talent and skill in the selection of releases. That's fine. But let's not call the selection of material something it is not or say well we have plenty of DAT's or soundboards so . . . .

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 9:41 am
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If that last post is directed at me, I have no idea what you’re talking/disagreeing about
My original post was agreeing w/yours about a 1998/99 release
Where it went from there I do not know
Have you been to the live show database? Or the trades/vines threads? Someone can likely hook you up with a show there
Most of my 1990s boots were recorded w/DAT recorders - they sound real nice - yeah that was the dawning of a new audience concert recording age when they came along alright Cool

[Edited on 6/23/2020 by Stephen]

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 11:05 am
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If it wasn't clear I meant it as a respectful disagreement of course. In your last post you said something about DAT's from '97-'99. Respectfully I don't need a DAT's or cd's and I do appreciate the fact that someone was willing to take their time to try to help and send me the way to some but . . . I have some. I think what I was getting at is this . . . I'd like to be able to pay the living band members or the families money for an official release(s) from the '97-'99 period but its clear that period isn't a quick or near priority to the "selection committee" due to the thought of making more $money$ on '70-'71 and the name recognition/popularity factor that other band members bring despite the talent level that others bring. I feel that I am frustrated with the process. I don't think that some of the decisions are well thought out. It has nothing to do with you, Stephen, obviously. I think that the last money ABB, Inc. gets from me will be for the Duane video project however . . . oh well.

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 12:44 pm
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Gotcha - now I understand, knew I was missing something, thanks holt
Yeah I too recall something being said shortly after Gregg’s passing that a Jack-era show was in the works - let’s hope Texas 71 & the DVD don’t go the way of it 😮 Smile

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 12:58 pm
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As has been my thinking with some other classic era artists.... I think these guys are nuts, "these guys" being ABB management.

There is a whole generation of middle-aged fans out there not getting any younger. We still do have disposable cash to spend on archival music, we still love physical copies / nice packaging.

In 5 or 10 more years, there will be a lot fewer of us. There will be more and more people who do not pay for music and/or have less and less interest in archival music from this era. Or, we might retire from full-time work and will tighten up our budgets.

I don't understand why any band from this era doesn't just strike while the iron is hot. Put out some archival stuff every 6 months.

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 3:07 pm
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There are many Soundboard recorded shows traded from Jack's era that will match any release. Not saying they shouldn't release one but if the fans want them - they are out there.

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 4:10 pm
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There’s a big video project being developed that will focus on the Duane era that we’ve uncovered and tracked down. There’s a lot of stuff coming out in the next 12 months.

I will believe it when I am watching the DVD in my home and not a minute before

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 4:47 pm
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There are many Soundboard recorded shows traded from Jack's era that will match any release. Not saying they shouldn't release one but if the fans want them - they are out there.

I’m personally hoping for a Blu-Ray/DVD release of this lineup. The Great Woods 1998 show was filmed for PPV and they were also filmed for Farm Aid.

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 5:00 pm
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There are many Soundboard recorded shows traded from Jack's era that will match any release. Not saying they shouldn't release one but if the fans want them - they are out there.

I’m personally hoping for a Blu-Ray/DVD release of this lineup. The Great Woods 1998 show was filmed for PPV and they were also filmed for Farm Aid.

Both have been traded for years and a trip to the Trades section will likely get what you are seeking.

The PPV and Farm Aid may be difficult as others may hold the rights. Always possible but might be a reason they have never been released.

 
Posted : June 23, 2020 7:03 pm
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Posted by: @bigv

There’s a big video project being developed that will focus on the Duane era that we’ve uncovered and tracked down. There’s a lot of stuff coming out in the next 12 months.

I will believe it when I am watching the DVD in my home and not a minute before

Yep - no word since this interview - same with the Texas 71 recording Kirk mentions - now halfway thru the time frame mentioned - both previously uncirculated material, gathering dust 

mayb this year......

HNY Vince, you’re missed around here

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