
I just bought EIGHT tickets for next Friday in Newark... bringing my whole family, plus my sister, brother-in-law and nephew... Only music we all LOVE and that alone is priceless... I can't think of any other show my 12 year old would beg to go to and my 15 and 18 year olds would gladly give up a weekend night with their friends to attend with their fam... I for one can not put a price on that.
That may be the best description of TTB I've heard: Easy listening for the entire family.

I just bought EIGHT tickets for next Friday in Newark... bringing my whole family, plus my sister, brother-in-law and nephew... Only music we all LOVE and that alone is priceless... I can't think of any other show my 12 year old would beg to go to and my 15 and 18 year olds would gladly give up a weekend night with their friends to attend with their fam... I for one can not put a price on that.
That may be the best description of TTB I've heard: Easy listening for the entire family.
Really rob, is that necessary?

An extended family doing anything together is a beautiful and meaningful thing. If they were listening to old Maybelle Carter records that would be great
I sometimes think the member slant here is heavily tinted by folk that are in areas where they can readily see ABB family bands, are deep fans who have seen the band mutations many times, and are a bit, ummm... "expective" in terms of setlists and performances at times.... a different perspective is mine.
In the northwest, ABB family bands are not as popular, intimately followed of the doings, or appear to play nowhere near as often as the eastern brethren here experience. So when I go to an ABB related show up here, I find by WAG: 5-10% core fans up on the musicians doings. 80% fans from old days with not much current knowledge, buy ticket based on memories. 10% who knows....
So when I saw TTB band in Spokane last year, it was that kind of crowd. Most knew Derek from ABB tie in, I think. Walking out was interesting. The moving crowd to the out doors, I was in the midst of.... Many, many jaw dropped faces and comments of how incredibly good the show was.
When you live in more of a musical drought than many of you know, these things are true gifts!

I find there to be nothing sexier than a woman with a fantastic voice playing the guitar. Hot stuff Susan.
"I Pity The Fool" is a great showcase of both her strong voice and guitar skills.

I don't get all the venom and hate. I just don't. Why do people feel the need?
can you quote one comment in this discussion that is hateful? I thought we were having an interesting discussion about music with different opinions being expressed-where is the venom?

I just bought EIGHT tickets for next Friday in Newark... bringing my whole family, plus my sister, brother-in-law and nephew... Only music we all LOVE and that alone is priceless... I can't think of any other show my 12 year old would beg to go to and my 15 and 18 year olds would gladly give up a weekend night with their friends to attend with their fam... I for one can not put a price on that.
That may be the best description of TTB I've heard: Easy listening for the entire family.
Really rob, is that necessary?
why not? It seems like Rob made a funny comment. Nothing wrong with that.

Rob's comment didn't offend me. Why does everyone have to like everything? I'm looking forward to the show with my family next week... totally different experience for me than going to the ABB and getting completely lost in the music.... Nothing else does that for me... Gov't Mule comes closest on the right nights.. but I'll keep seeing all of them as much as I can.

In the northwest, ABB family bands are not as popular, intimately followed of the doings, or appear to play nowhere near as often as the eastern brethren here experience. So when I go to an ABB related show up here, I find by WAG: 5-10% core fans up on the musicians doings. 80% fans from old days with not much current knowledge, buy ticket based on memories. 10% who knows....
I've lived in San Diego since 1981 and have seen some pretty sparse crowds at both ABB and family bands shows in that span. Gov't Mule rolls through and does not sell out the downtown H.O.B. Caught TTB at Humphrey's by the Bay (1200 seat venue) and was able to get tickets at showtime with lots of empty seats behind us. Back in the Warren/Woody years the band did not sell out the Starlite Bowl (less than 4,000). The DTB used to play the belly-up tavern. The Brothers have supplied the soundtrack to my life, but with each family band or "spin-off" the crowds get smaller regardless of the quality of the music; fans will always remember "the old days".....
I sure do.

I don't get all the venom and hate. I just don't. Why do people feel the need?
can you quote one comment in this discussion that is hateful? I thought we were having an interesting discussion about music with different opinions being expressed-where is the venom?
Thank you. Just different opinions on something totally subjective. Geez....... 😉
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.

I think there's something to be said for what Alan is talking about. The last TTB show I saw was very diverse in terms of age, race, and gender. You don't see that anymore.
As for the comments about the drummers, I think their differences may be more subtle than Butch and Jaimoe, who played with defined roles, but I think they bring different styles to the band. JJ sounds much more like a jazz drummer and Tyler plays like a percussionist but with a drum set. They seem to play off each other more than play differently, which melds their sound a bit and can sound as if they are playing similarly when they are actually weaving in and out of each other's rhythms. At least that's my take, as someone who played the drums for a bit, although very poorly, I'll admit.

I don't care much for either the originals or covers done by the TTB. Maybe that has to do with the way all the players struggle to fit together. The two songs I liked best in one of the last shows I saw were The Sky Is Crying, done with no horns or backup singers and with Derek and Susan trading some great solos. and Wade In the Water, also done very simply and beautifully.
This is paraphrased, but sums up much what I find lacking in the TTB:
There are more people in TTB, so there is not as much time for each player to say the things they want to say. With more of a song environment, what Susan brings to the show and the horn section, it allows for different styles, so there’s a whole lot more to bring in comparison to DTB but the DTB had way more freedom in terms of moments to improvise.

The Spokane show from about a year ago was fantastic! And someone youtube'd the crazy-town Kebbi sax solo, he went off the deep end and returned
We wish we had a recording of that whole show.
We brought 2 friends who, back in the day, saw their share of great music but who were not all that familiar with TTB and they turned into rabid fans.
Of course it helped that we were sitting about 8th row center.
Susan has range and dynamics and great tone. Her voice is a great one.
The shows are great, nice vibe, varied crowd, we go see them whenever we get the chance.
Have seen the mule once, walked out. Never could stand listening to Warren sing all night. Despite his fantastic playing. He is not a compelling singer except for a few songs. But at least he won't deliver a bad show 'cause he is drunk and ranting like DB. Warren's a professional. We are hoping to catch a Garcia symphony show sometime, love his riffing on Jerry Tunes. Thought the Railroad Earth stuff was boring. OTOH, wish we'd seen David Rawlings instead.
Rock on TTB, we hope for many more years of them. Derek ain't going backwards so anyone who wants what used to be can archive.org to their heart's content.

Easy listening for the whole family.....if you happen to have a cool family!
I took my teens to see Rush. They took me to see Wiz Kalifa and Fallout Boy.
When I was a kid, my parents did not like rock. They liked John Denver. However, I can remember the whole family singing along to "Ramblin Man" and of course to The Band while we were in the station wagon while driving cross-country. Great times. The Band is definitely easy listening music for the whole family.
"Dad rock" is a term of insult that desperate hipsters like to throw at Wilco. Their loss. Bonding with people you love through music is a great thing. I feel sorry for people who can't do that.
Mind you, I'd love to see any family survive the TTB' s Bitches Brew jams or the out to to The Storm!

Easy listening for the whole family.....if you happen to have a cool family!
I took my teens to see Rush. They took me to see Wiz Kalifa and Fallout Boy.
When I was a kid, my parents did not like rock. They liked John Denver. However, I can remember the whole family singing along to "Ramblin Man" and of course to The Band while we were in the station wagon while driving cross-country. Great times. The Band is definitely easy listening music for the whole family.
"Dad rock" is a term of insult that desperate hipsters like to throw at Wilco. Their loss. Bonding with people you love through music is a great thing. I feel sorry for people who can't do that.
Mind you, I'd love to see any family survive the TTB' s Bitches Brew jams or the out to to The Storm!
Music is definitely a great way to bond. My younger daughter saw her first ABB show at 4-1/2. When she was a teen I took her and a friend to a Blink 182 show and experienced moshing for the first time... and the last.
My wife started going to ABB shows with me, because otherwise she did not see much of me in March. She was a big fan of the DTB and STB, as were both my daughters.

Just a couple of points re TTB from my perspective
1) This is a band best seen Live
2) Susan's singing has noticibly improved over the past 5+ years
3) Derek guitar jams within the shows has expanded over time
4) My wife will go with me to the shows but would not with ABB (not saying this is either good or bad)
If I had a magic wand I would be seeing Warren and Derek playing together all the time but for me the next best thing is TTB. Looking forward to Lockn and the Beacon. Based on their expanded run it appears that their popularity is growing.

The Spokane show from about a year ago was fantastic! And someone youtube'd the crazy-town Kebbi sax solo, he went off the deep end and returned
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We wish we had a recording of that whole show.
We brought 2 friends who, back in the day, saw their share of great music but who were not all that familiar with TTB and they turned into rabid fans.
Of course it helped that we were sitting about 8th row center.
Susan has range and dynamics and great tone. Her voice is a great one.
The shows are great, nice vibe, varied crowd, we go see them whenever we get the chance.Have seen the mule once, walked out. Never could stand listening to Warren sing all night. Despite his fantastic playing. He is not a compelling singer except for a few songs. But at least he won't deliver a bad show 'cause he is drunk and ranting like DB. Warren's a professional. We are hoping to catch a Garcia symphony show sometime, love his riffing on Jerry Tunes. Thought the Railroad Earth stuff was boring. OTOH, wish we'd seen David Rawlings instead.
Rock on TTB, we hope for many more years of them. Derek ain't going backwards so anyone who wants what used to be can archive.org to their heart's content.
"Never could stand listening to Warren sing all night."
Wow! That is the first time I ever heard anyone say that about Warren's singing but as everyone points out, to each their own. I love Warren's playing and voice.

"Never could stand listening to Warren sing all night."
Wow! That is the first time I ever heard anyone say that about Warren's singing but as everyone points out, to each their own. I love Warren's playing and voice.
Count me as someone who can only take Warren's voice in doses like in The Allman Brothers. I don't dislike his voice, he can certainly sing, but I don't love listening to his voice for 2.5 hours. In Mule, his guitar tone gets a little too fat and crunchy for my tastes as well.

"Never could stand listening to Warren sing all night."
Wow! That is the first time I ever heard anyone say that about Warren's singing but as everyone points out, to each their own. I love Warren's playing and voice.
Count me as someone who can only take Warren's voice in doses like in The Allman Brothers. I don't dislike his voice, he can certainly sing, but I don't love listening to his voice for 2.5 hours. In Mule, his guitar tone gets a little too fat and crunchy for my tastes as well.
why all this hate towards Warren?
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"Never could stand listening to Warren sing all night."
Wow! That is the first time I ever heard anyone say that about Warren's singing but as everyone points out, to each their own. I love Warren's playing and voice.
Count me as someone who can only take Warren's voice in doses like in The Allman Brothers. I don't dislike his voice, he can certainly sing, but I don't love listening to his voice for 2.5 hours. In Mule, his guitar tone gets a little too fat and crunchy for my tastes as well.
why all this hate towards Warren?
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Derek needed a break and Warren volunteered.
Although it would be far easier to bash on Jack White IMO. 😉

ROFLMAO my little time bomb comment about Warren goes off as intended.
PS we really are Mule fans. I just wanted to have some fun with y'all. Thanks for playing!

"Never could stand listening to Warren sing all night."
Wow! That is the first time I ever heard anyone say that about Warren's singing but as everyone points out, to each their own. I love Warren's playing and voice.
Count me as someone who can only take Warren's voice in doses like in The Allman Brothers. I don't dislike his voice, he can certainly sing, but I don't love listening to his voice for 2.5 hours. In Mule, his guitar tone gets a little too fat and crunchy for my tastes as well.
why all this hate towards Warren?
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Derek needed a break and Warren volunteered.
Although it would be far easier to bash on Jack White IMO. 😉
One word: Stefani

Is she the new "Yoko" now and Susan gets a break too?

Very nice looking setlist from the other night!
Looks look an electric take on Done Somebody Wrong. Would sure love to hear that. Would be interesting to hear DSW augmented with horns.

I'm seeing this band for the first time in October at the Beacon and I cannot wait - for me its a bucket list item - I've been meaning to go for some time now so I got off the pot - so to speak - and bought myself a tix - another bucket list item I can cross off - Misty Copeland dancing Odette in Swan Lake - oh yes at the Met in June - whooooo hooooooooooo - now if Dickey would come back to NY this summer

I went through the past several set lists - they've been mixing things up quite a bit more than they used to.
Looking forward to seeing them in July.

I went through the past several set lists - they've been mixing things up quite a bit more than they used to.
Looking forward to seeing them in July.
I think they were focusing on each record individually while also working up a nice list of covers the first few tours. Now that they have three full records of originals and a boatload of covers they are starting to diversify the steeliest which will keep the very nice fanbase they have built coming back over and over just like the ABB did. Being able to add shows and do a six show run at the Beacon I would have to think that expanding the set lists is something they need to do if they want fans coming back over and over.

agreed
I hope this means more 2 set shows and multi night runs

I went through the past several set lists - they've been mixing things up quite a bit more than they used to.
Looking forward to seeing them in July.I think they were focusing on each record individually while also working up a nice list of covers the first few tours. Now that they have three full records of originals and a boatload of covers they are starting to diversify the steeliest which will keep the very nice fanbase they have built coming back over and over just like the ABB did. Being able to add shows and do a six show run at the Beacon I would have to think that expanding the set lists is something they need to do if they want fans coming back over and over.
I agree with you that if they want to have people attend multiple nights, they need to mix the setlists up. A few months ago I saw them one night and then the next day at a radio show invite only thing where they played for a bit over an hour or so. I had just heard the same songs a little over 12 hours before that. I didn't go to the actual concert that second evening so I don't know what they played and I didn't look it up but I imagine it was pretty much the same. Still just as talented though.
Everything in Moderation. Including Moderation.

TTB on Done Somebody Wrong 5/8/16
ABB played a set list that was numbingly the same during 70/71 and multi-shows per day at that. Not sure I saw a bunch of people going on about hearing the same stuff. Check the set lists for the Fillmore shows. Nearly all the same. Just sayin'
TTB already mixes it up better than that. And now they are mixing it up even more!

Derek sounds great on that! Susan's lead is tasty too.
That said, I hope they play this one some more and get comfortable with it. It's sort of stiff and lacking that swing which the ABB version has. Which is too bad because TTB can swing (see Part of Me on Made Up Mind)
Obnoxious unsolicited advice: turn up the bass! That's what drives the swing in the ABB version; a little dirtier and more pronounced tone on Susan's power chord rhythm; let the horns sustain notes like a Hammond organ and Thor in a few riffs.
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