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My apologies if this has been posted before. It's lovely.


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 12:24 pm
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Not posted before as far as I know. That was extremely good guitar playing and incredible tone. Maybe a touch of Jeff Beck meets Eric Johnson. Jimmy is fast like Eric Johnson and Joe Bonamassa.

The guitar tone is absolutely exceptional. I have seen him use that guitar before. It's a Fender Stratocaster but it looked like it had been routed out to hold a couple of PF-90 pickups. But I just did some checking and that Strat was custom fitted with Lollar Imperial pickups.

How many agree Jimmy's Strat has outstanding tone?


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 1:07 pm
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I had never seen it, Beautiful.


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 1:24 pm
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Jimmy has always been a tone monster, and this example is no exception. I always loved his rendition of SIBLY and have watched that clip many times. (Neal Fountain is a monster on bass too, but don't want to go too off-topic.)

With the addition of the twang bar, I can see the Jeff Beck comparisons. Similar, but different. I don't recall exactly when he added it, but I'd say 2010-ish. I'd never seen him play with a tremelo setup in the 20+ years before then.

I've always thought Jimmy's sound was some sort of amalgamation of Steve Morse, Scott Henderson, perhaps a bit of Alan Holdsworth, and of course 2 parts Zambi. I know Jimmy has always been quick to give props to other players, such as Dickey Betts, Jimi Hendrix, Wes Montgomery, Django, John McLaughlin... the list goes on and on. But his playing, to my ears, is very heavy on the Steve Morse and Scott Henderson influence. Especially the early days. He has much more of his own sound since, I'd say, the early 2000s.

[Edited on 1/8/2020 by Zambi]


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 1:37 pm
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Zambi. I remember reading Jimmy's interviews just after he turned down Dickey's place in the ABB when he was asked by Butch to take the gig permanently. Jimmy said he was very uncomfortable replacing a living original member of the ABB and that Dickey was one of his heros. Jimmy then mentioned Dickey's solo on One Way Out on Eat A Peach as a solo that deeply moved him years back. Jimmy didn't say anything about how Dickey structured the solo and his selection of notes, bends and vibrato. Jimmy only mentioned what fantastic tone Dickey had on that solo. And to this day it is one of his favorite solos and tones.

I had forgotten about Steve Morse. Yes I can hear a touch of Steve in his style. I think it was the late 1970's I went to a club in Greensboro, N. C. to see the Dixie Dregs. There was a violin player too and I was very surprised. That band had players that were more technically polished than most bands.

That is how Jimmy strikes me. More technically polished than many guitar players and his tone is top notch here. This video is better Stratocaster tone than David Gilmore.


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 3:06 pm
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Jimmy is a great player. Watched him and John Mclaughlin trade licks a couple of years ago...


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 3:08 pm
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Yeah, Jimmy was a real Steve Morse devotee, which he proudly admits, especially early on. He still has his enormous shred chops from then, but has added his own unique soul. I can recall Morse praising Herring in the guitar magazines also. Both are class acts.

I get the Jeff Beck comparison especially in his spirit more than necessarily his note choice: he plays lines that sound very vocal, like a singer, at times, with his vibrato and legato, and he does use the whammy warble like Mr. Beck.

BEAST!

The nice thing about Youtube is going down the rabbit-hole of related videos. Watching this led me to some Aquarium Rescue Unit I had never seen; watching the Eric Johnson / Red Volkaert video got me to a bunch of Billy Strings and Tommy Emmanuel I hadn't seen.


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 3:10 pm
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All do respects to Mr Herring, very nice job....but does not match the feeling and intensity of Mr. Page. Just my opinion. I am a Page disciple. Grin

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uHRdRVTDdP0

[Edited on 1/7/2020 by jszfunk]


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Posted : January 6, 2020 4:21 pm
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Maybe Herring is a tad smoother than Page but you are right that Page has more intensity. Nice Les Paul tone.

But I think you agree Herring's tone on the Stratocaster is top notch.

Page's intensity on Stairway To Heaven always raised goosebumps on my neck.

Not including Slide, my favorite solo from the ABB for intensity is Duane Allman's solo on Liz Reed on Fillmore East. It just flat smokes.


 
Posted : January 6, 2020 5:06 pm
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Otis Clay does a nice version of this. Great vocals.

Gov't Mule performs "Since I've Been Loving You" at Gathering of the Vibes Music Festival 2013

Just got inspired for a new thread topic..... 😉

[Edited on 1/7/2020 by jszfunk]

[Edited on 1/7/2020 by jszfunk]


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Posted : January 7, 2020 4:20 am
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The thing with Page, and Blackmore too, as compared to some of the more modern players, is that with Page, when he was digging into a fast run, he was on the edge. He was playing as fast as he possibly could, and there was definitely the chance that it could go wrong. It was a battle of great intensity for him to nail that lick. When he succeeded, it was cathartic.

You just don't get that sense with some of the modern shred guys. It's not always a challenge for them.

I get that sense very explicitly with Steve Morse in Deep Purple as compared to Blackmore. For Blackmore to play some of the "composed" solos in concert, like the famous part toward the end of the "Highway Star" solo, or the harmony lick he plays with Jon Lord to end the "Child in Time" solo, Ritchie had to be completely locked in to get it right; it was a tightwire act. Steve Morse nails the part easily every time without breaking a sweat, so you don't feel the intensity.


 
Posted : January 7, 2020 7:44 am
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is that with Page, when he was digging into a fast run, he was on the edge. He was playing as fast as he possibly could, and there was definitely the chance that it could go wrong. It was a battle of great intensity for him to nail that lick. When he succeeded, it was cathartic.

Nice observation and well described. I get what your saying, kinda of a controlled chaos, ready to go off the rails but never does....love the rawness of his playing.


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Posted : January 7, 2020 7:55 am
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Don't want to go too far off topic, but here is another fun one from that era.

Within You Without You.....lots of Beck influence playing instrumental of Harrison/Beatles with that twang bar.

This one is fun too. Not as huge of a fan of the tune itself (it is great though), but just the high quality of the video and audio with the guys playing in the studio.

[Edited on 1/8/2020 by Zambi]


 
Posted : January 7, 2020 4:54 pm
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Europe does a nice version of this.

John Norum is a VERY TALENTED player. He plays that solo in the spirit of JP very well.

[Edited on 1/9/2020 by jszfunk]


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Posted : January 9, 2020 8:29 am
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Yeah I liked John Norum. He is clearly tipping his hat to Page.


 
Posted : January 9, 2020 2:29 pm
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Alright jszfunk and all you guitar heads. Here is 30 minutes of hot, hot, hot high speed shredding with wammy bar gone wild. I listened over the weekend and have enough of this high octane playing to last me for the rest of the month.

To me this hottest playing starts about a 3rd of the way in.

This is very advanced playing technically too but it's basically shredding.


 
Posted : January 9, 2020 2:39 pm
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Where is JimSheridan, jszfunk, Zambi etc. I thought I would see some comments about this display of electric guitar wizardry. Speed, cleanness, incredible licks, whammy bar gone wild, extremely high level of technical ability.

This puts the lid on the jar for this kind of guitar playing. This is a notch above even Eddie Van Halen , Steve Vai, Brad Gillis, Richie Blackmore, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page etc.

I listened to the entire 30 minutes over the weekend carefully and NEVER heard one CLAM ( missed note).


 
Posted : January 9, 2020 4:36 pm
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Well no comments. I guess then we are all agreed that Gary Moore was not only the master of the Stratocaster but the king of the super fast, technically advanced, whammy gone wild shredding style of guitar playing.

I saw Van Haken 4 times, Jeff Beck 5 times, Led Zeppelin twice, Deep Purple once, David Lee Rorth once with Steve Via and Gary Moore once in the 1980's and to my surprise the night I saw Gary I thought he was a slight notch above Eddie etc and I think this video with clips of Gary blowing his top proves it.

Unless someone disagrees, I'll assume we all agree the pre blues Gary Moore was the king of the hot rod shredders.

And it's funny to me. We use talk about were Derek, Warren and Dickey ranked on that top 100 guitar player list that came out some years ago, Hendrix was number one and Duane Allman was number two.....well Gary Moore wasn't on it AT ALL!!


 
Posted : January 10, 2020 6:40 am
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Alright jszfunk and all you guitar heads. Here is 30 minutes of hot, hot, hot high speed shredding with wammy bar gone wild. I listened over the weekend and have enough of this high octane playing to last me for the rest of the month.

To me this hottest playing starts about a 3rd of the way in.

This is very advanced playing technically too but it's basically shredding.

Good stuff!!! Thanks for sharing.

GREG LAKE FEATURING GARY MOORE - LIVE AT THE HAMMERSMITH ODEON LONDON 5.11.1981. - R.I.P. GREG LAKE


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Posted : January 10, 2020 9:47 am
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Well no comments. I guess then we are all agreed that Gary Moore was not only the master of the Stratocaster but the king of the super fast, technically advanced, whammy gone wild shredding style of guitar playing.

I saw Van Haken 4 times, Jeff Beck 5 times, Led Zeppelin twice, Deep Purple once, David Lee Rorth once with Steve Via and Gary Moore once in the 1980's and to my surprise the night I saw Gary I thought he was a slight notch above Eddie etc and I think this video with clips of Gary blowing his top proves it.

Unless someone disagrees, I'll assume we all agree the pre blues Gary Moore was the king of the hot rod shredders.

And it's funny to me. We use talk about were Derek, Warren and Dickey ranked on that top 100 guitar player list that came out some years ago, Hendrix was number one and Duane Allman was number two.....well Gary Moore wasn't on it AT ALL!!

You are a guitar junkie I gather. Your opinion on one of those polls could very well differ from someone else's. I see Clapton toward the top of some of those. I love Clapton but I don't think he was Duane. It's very subjective of course. I do kind of like seeing those rankings that pop up from time to time and see what someone thinks is good, great, whatever. There are some great guitar players I have seen / heard that most people have probably never heard of. Fun discussions.


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Posted : January 10, 2020 11:59 am
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Yeah Lee. One of the guitar mags just had a poll of 50,000 voters and Steve Via was voted best electric guitar player working today. That may be right...technically. Derek made the list but Warren didn't.

I'm very impressed with Steve Via but I play Warren a lot more when I'm just in the mood for good music and not focused on hot licks and drum sticks.


 
Posted : January 10, 2020 12:30 pm
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