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Jimmy Herring is a technical wizard

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Technically Jimmy Herring is just as impressive to me as Eddie Van Halen. Steve Via,  Gary Moore,  Joe Bonamassa and I guess Neil Young too!

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Posted : December 14, 2020 8:27 pm
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Posted : December 14, 2020 9:11 pm
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Have traded music/live shows for years. At one point I did some trading with the original bassist from Electric Light Orchestra.

His only interest was obtaining shows that had to include specific guitarists. Those were Buzzy Feiten, Jack Pearson and Jimmy Herring.


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Posted : December 15, 2020 12:35 pm
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Posted by: @oldcoot

Have traded music/live shows for years. At one point I did some trading with the original bassist from Electric Light Orchestra.

His only interest was obtaining shows that had to include specific guitarists. Those were Buzzy Feiten, Jack Pearson and Jimmy Herring.

I'm gonna have to check out Buzzy Feiten then. Never heard of him until now. Thanks


 
Posted : December 15, 2020 12:55 pm
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I'm gonna have to check out Buzzy Feiten then. Never heard of him until now. Thanks

I've only heard of him in regards to the guitar tuning system he invented, patented and licensed out to various manufacturers.  The tuning system was supposed to correct some imperfections with pitch/tonality of the way a guitar is tuned.  It never seemed to go anywhere though, and I haven't seen much on it in the past 10 or maybe 15 years. 

 

Never heard his playing though, but in very good company with ALO bassist's other tastes.


 
Posted : December 15, 2020 2:03 pm
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Feiten has had quite a career. For a time, he formed a band (Larsen Feiten Band) with Neil Larsen who was in Gregg's solo band at one point.

Not entirely sure, will have to do some digging, I think Buzzy might have been on tour with one of the Gregg Allman & Friends lineups, or at least guested.

Did a LOT of session work including with Aretha and Stevie Wonder among others.

Oh yeah, he also played on.......

 

 

 

 

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Posted : December 15, 2020 5:12 pm
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That is right Old Coot. He played on Laid Back which Gregg called "his baby". To me its Gregg's masterpiece.  I was inclined to read all the credits etc on albums back then and remember the name from that 1973 release by Gregg. Laid Back was also Gregg's best selling solo album. Feiten supposedly was a man Gregg was impressed with as was Deering Howe. 


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Posted : December 15, 2020 5:26 pm
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Back to Jimmy Herring.  More real good playing. 


 
Posted : December 16, 2020 11:50 am
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Buzz played lead on "Queen of Hearts". Some tasty stuff.

 


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Posted : December 16, 2020 12:00 pm
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Buzz played lead on "Queen of Hearts". Some tasty stuff.

 

I Googled his discography.  He's played with just about everybody!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Feiten_discography

 


 
Posted : December 16, 2020 12:46 pm
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Well it's a 3.5 hour show between the 2-3 bands playing that night, but this is as good as any place to start watching during the first set:

 


 
Posted : December 16, 2020 11:19 pm
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As Yonrico said, “We love Jimmy!”

Brother gpm and I took in the McLaughlin/Herring tour at the Joy Theater in New Orleans.  Upper level music in every way.

Love Jimmy Herring Band doing Within You, Without You.  Very fortunate to hear it live at the State Theater in Falls Church, VA. 

Jazz is Dead and the best post-Garcia, Phil Lesh Quintet.

As to the Buzz Feiten tuning system, I have it on an SG and my Firebird.  To my ears it does help a Gibson type with across the board intonation.  Both installed by Andrew Olson, he also did locking bridge and saddles.  Both still intonate great after several years, untouched.  The idea does seem to have become less used.

 


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Posted : December 17, 2020 3:11 pm
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I've seen Jimmy live several times and was blown away for both!  He's amazing!  

And Buzzy...I'm pretty sure he played with the Paul Butterfield Band after Bloomfield left.  


 
Posted : December 18, 2020 5:17 pm
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Here's that legendary tripped out "Mountain Jam" from the 2000 Summer tour.


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Posted : December 19, 2020 1:58 pm
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 Buzzy is interviewed extensively in the Paul Butterfield documentary.


 
Posted : December 19, 2020 2:28 pm
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@zambi The first number on the Jimmy Herring/John McLaughlin video sounds like one of Dickey's tunes but I guess it isn't.:)


 
Posted : December 19, 2020 6:01 pm
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That tripped out Mountain Jam from 2000 was interesting and I liked it. But except for Gregg's organ solo and Butch during the drums part, it didn't sound like the Allman Brothers.  Jimmy, Derek, Otiel and even the drums during the first 14 minutes was completely different than the way Duane, Dickey and Berry played it. But that is good through. The new guys want to put their own stamp on it rather than trying to copy 30 years before. 


 
Posted : December 19, 2020 6:25 pm
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30 years earlier. Not as fast. Not close to being as fast. But more melodic and the styles from the musicians are more familiar to me. But I do want to hear the 2000 version some more as I didn't see the band when Jimmy Herring was in it. Technically Jimmy is one of the best. 


 
Posted : December 19, 2020 6:46 pm
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Thought I would see what Jimmy Herring has in his ax arsenal. 

Apparently Jimmy's number one is a white Paul Reed Smith NF3 with maple neck, stock electronics and Dunlop 6000 frets. Also Jimmy often uses a natural finish PRS NF3 custom made for Jimmy by Paul Reed Smith.

In addition Jimmy plays Fender Stratocaster guitars almost as often as PRS guitars. Jimmy's Stratocasters are equipped with two Lollar Imperial humbuckers. The fretboard radius has been flattened out to 20 inches and has Dunlop 6000 feet wide specified by Jimmy to Fender. Jimmy also occasionally uses a 1970 Gibson SG given him by Derek Trucks. 

Jimmy uses effects sparingly with an Ernie Ball volume pedal and H and K Tube factor. 

With Widespread Panic Jimmy usually uses a 3 color sunburst Fender Stratocaster built specifically for Jimmy by Gene Baker at the Fender custom shop. It has two factory installed Seymore Duncan 1959 humbucker pickups. 


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Posted : December 20, 2020 11:07 am
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Okay porkchopbob or any guitar experts. Jimmy's guitar in the Widespread Panic video that Jimmy ordered from Fender has Fender Stratocaster on the headstock.  But just two pickups. Both 1959 Seymour Duncan's.  Many artists modify their guitars. Is this guitar too much modified to be a Fender Stratocaster even though it was built by Fender for Jimmy?

Apparently Eddie Van Halen's guitars were so heavily modified I'm told now in private Email guitar aficionados generally just call them "Eddie's guitars" rather than Kramer, Ibanez, Gibson, Fender etc.


 
Posted : December 20, 2020 11:25 am
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Okay porkchopbob or any guitar experts. Jimmy's guitar in the Widespread Panic video that Jimmy ordered from Fender has Fender Stratocaster on the headstock.  But just two pickups. Both 1959 Seymour Duncan's.  Many artists modify their guitars. Is this guitar too much modified to be a Fender Stratocaster even though it was built by Fender for Jimmy?

I read that Jimmy had his Strat heavily modded, but Fender sells Strats with humbuckers.

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/stratocaster/boxer-series-stratocaster-hh/0251750324.html


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Posted : December 20, 2020 12:12 pm
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@porkchopbob Okay porkchopbob.  Thank you. I should have thought to visit Fender's website myself. 

The answer is yes. A Ford Mustang or Chevrolet Corvette with a jet engine is still a Ford or Chevrolet if it is factory built as Jimmy's Stratocaster for Widespread Panic was. Built for Jimmy Herring by Fender.

Eddie Van Halen's guitars often were parts guitars and the electronics put together by Eddie and sometimes with pickups and switches that were not wired to anything to confuse copycats. Apparently that is why Eddie scrubbed the brand name of some of his headstocks because the instrument has little in common with a certain make. I mistakenly thought some were modified Stratocasters because of the headstock shape but those necks were Charvel. And they could use the patented shape because Fender bought Charvel. 

Thank you so much.  I saw Jimmy with Widespread Panic once and his Stratocaster sounded fantastic.  Great tone and of course his playing was very clean and advanced technically. 


 
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