Never heard of this song. Pretty lame, feels beneath the band. Glad they shelved it.

@porkchopbob It's on a Gov't Mule album. I think it's Heavy Load. 

Reminds me of Hoochie Coochie Man but slower. But Hoochie Coochie Man especially when it's Berry Oakley singing is great I think. 

I wasn't aware the Allman Brothers Band ever did it. I've heard it by the Mule. 

Gregg Allman and Butch Trucks didn't like Tombstone Eyes, Rave On and J. J.s Alley and thought they were not good enough for the band as they did with Mean Woman Blues and Everybody's Got A Mountain To Climb and Gregg didn't like Nobody Knows and refused to keep singing it hoping it would be dropped but Dickey refused to take it out of the set lists and just began singing it himself. Good move on Dickey's part to enhance harmony in the band. 

All of those were dropped along with Ramblin' Man in 2000 orders of Gregg and Butch so it's not surprising Gregg or Butch or both shelved Hiding Place as I agree it's a " hit the men's room" place in the set. 

I guarantee if the Brothers recorded this song with Gregg on vocals you would of liked this song.

@fender31 I would've enjoyed Gregg singing the freakin' telephone book!  😉

@rusty Maybe Gregg should have started singing Ramblin' Man so minimalist fans wouldn't show up expecting to hear it and notice it's not played. Not played from 2000 to 2014. 

All through the 2000's after Dickey was voted out by Butch and Gregg when the band would play in Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta and Richmond etc ( where I could hear radio stations) the commercials for those concerns for 14 years included Ramblin' Man with Dickey on vocals along with Blue Sky with Dickey singing and the usual One Way Out, Midnight Rider and Whipping Post with Gregg singing. 

Maybe one of the stupidest things the band did was dropping Ramblin' Man in 2000. 

But hey Butch Trucks on his blog in 2003 stated as soon as they wrote some new instrumentals they were dropping ALL songs written by Dickey. 

Fortunately Gregg and Jaimoe did not vote to do that except Butch was right about Ramblin' Man. They never played it again. 

But you have to admit despite the several times Gregg Allman said the Allman Brothers Band would record another album even if they had to record it without Butch Trucks, Butch was right about that. Butch said on his blog about 2007 the Allman Brothers Band will never record another studio album because they just don't sell well enough to justify the money the band would spend as they are not with Epic anymore and Butch was right. After 2003's Hitting The Note, they never recorded another studio album. 

@robertdee I could discuss Ramblin' Man (an amazingly, wonderful, GREAT song) all day in several different directions.  But the issue about the Allman Brother's Band not recording any more past Hittin' the Note is more intriguing.  They can blame studio costs etc all day  - but the fact is, several band members had/have viable recording studios in their homes.  No, it might not be the Record Plant or RCA Studio A but in the modern era of Pro Tools (for example) you can record a decent product in a home environment.  Personally, I think that the real and most honest reason they stopped recording new material is the lack of any exceptional new material.  Home studio, live recordings - there are ways to record music that don't break the bank.  All of this is my opinion.  Feel free to disagree.

@rusty Rusty I don't disagree at all. It probably was indeed lack of strong original material. 

Butch nixed any new studio album by the Allman Brothers about 2006 or 7. Gregg was asked about that in another interview without Butch being there and flatly contradicted Butch saying " There absolutely will be another Allman Brothers studio album." 

Then in another interview some months later Gregg was told Butch Trucks said no more Allman Brothers Band albums and the band is now a live show ensemble only. 

But Gregg responded they WILL do another album and WITHOUT Butch Trucks if necessary. 

Then there was discussion about why he couldn't get Queen Of Hearts on Brothers and Sisters and Gregg said it was opposition in the band but its long ago so I'm not going to discuss it now but his initials are Butch Trucks. 

Hey that isn't initials!!! 

But Butch eventually said on his blog if he had it to do over he would have fought like h*** to keep Ramblin' Man of that album. When they recorded it before Oakley died Butch thought it was a demo to send Merle Haggard. That after they added the long guitar solo at the end Butch thought it did sound like the brothers enough to use it but he realized it was a big mistake and they were stuck with playing that until they got rid of Dickey. And it's embarrassing all the country rock bands used Ramblin' Man and other Dickey songs to shape their sound and that is NOT the sound and style of the band from the beginning. 

Inside band politics can break up bands. 

Not to sound like a dick, but if it hadn't been for Ramblin Man, Butch wouldn't have had near as much money to squander!

@rusty Actually I really enjoyed Butch posting on his blog and answering questions from the fans. That was really novel and fans including me had answers to questions some had held for years. 

One wanted to know who is laughing at the end of the chant on Black Hearted Woman on the first album. Butch said the chant is Gregg, Duane, Dickey, Berry, Jaimoe and himself and the laugh is Berry Oakley who cracked up at the end of the version they used. 

Very revealing was when Butch complained about an archival release titled " 1969 - 1979 A Decade Of Hits" which was released in 1991 and sold over 2 million copies. 

Those songs were no long owned by the band. Thanks to Phil Walden and the Capricorn collapse, the band didn't have ownership of those recordings in 1991 so the band members and musicians including Butch Trucks did not get any money from the 2 million copies, the first ABB release after Brothers and Sisters to sell over a million copies and the ONLY one so far. 

BUT the song writers of course had to be paid their royalty so the Willie McTell estate was paid for Statesboro Blues and Duane Allman's daughter was paid for Little Martha and One Way Out writers made money etc and according to Butch, Dickey Betts and Gregg Allman made over a million dollars each off of that archival release and Jaimoe AND BUTCH made NOTHING!! 

Butch was angry he was blocked by Dickey from getting a writing credit for In Memory of Elizabeth Reed as Butch said he wrote the drum break and turn around at the end of the song. 

I myself wrote and asked why he didn't go to Duane about it and Butch said he did but Duane sided with Dickey and when Elizabeth Reed or Whipping Post or what have you took shape for an Allman Brothers Band album, that is ARRANGEMENT not song writing. Butch admitted to another poster Gregg 's Whipping Post was a slow acoustic ballad when Gregg wrote it. Berry Oakley came up with the famous bass intro and Berry and Butch came up with the time signature used on the song. I guess the only thing at that point that was from Gregg was the original idea and the lyrics. But under Duane's policy only Gregg enjoyed a writing credit. 

Yes Butch said Duane ruled whichever member brought the original song to the band got the writing credit and how the band shaped it into an Allman Brothers Band song was arranging! 

Butch admitted the same as Dickey that they all got to vote and opinion about band business but also they all knew they were playing in Duane Allman 's band. Even Gregg knew his brother was the big boss in the operation. 

Soon in the mid 1990's Butch said he was going to look for ways and business endeavors where he too can make money off the band which is beyond being a musician in the band like Dickey and Gregg did with song writing. 

Don't know for sure but it seems likely those side businesses Butch started is what got him into deep, deep trouble with the Internal Revenue Service and cleaned Butch out financially and sadly led to him taking his life in 2017. 

I knew two men who developed their own businesses and sadly didn't get what was owed Uncle Sam up to snuff and suddenly found out they owed tons of money for back taxes and interest and penalties. 

One shot himself in his wearhouse and the other in his car at the campus of the college he attended. Both were under 50 and owing almost everything to the tax man after five or six years of seeming to be very successful small business men was something they couldn't face so they both pulled the trigger. 

Sad indeed. 

@robertdee Nothing like big money when it comes to killin' a band vibe!  I just finished Mike Campbell's book (Heartbreaker).

His story starts with the good old lean days - playing in small sweaty bars, living in a small place with 5 other people - no heat or air conditioning etc.  Fast forward to when the big money starts to roll in:  Tom Petty's lawyer assembles the other bandmembers to tell them that Tom will be taking 50% and the rest will divide what's left.  As expected all are pissed.  Campbell rationalizes to them - "We will all be rich - Tom will just be a lot richer."  Songwriting and perspective.  I honestly believe that all of the Allman Brothers should've been cut in on some of the songs - especially those with instrumental improvisation.  That's also my opinion.

Yes I agree. Dickey even stated to Dan Rather that Chuck Leavell had several good ideas to get Jessica to where it was on Brothers and Sisters that he may should have been part of the writing. 

Non band member Les Dudek insists he wrote the bridge for Dickey on Jessica and thought he would get a writing credit and supposedly Dickey told Phil Walden that Les should receive a percentage but when Gregg and Butch Trucks became adamant Les Dudek would not be replacing Duane Allman and no one will replace Duane, that Phil Walden nixed the thing and as manager registered Jessica with the publisher as being a Dickey only composition. 

Les also claimed Dickey apologized to him. 

But I'm more recent years Chuck Leavell said Jessica is Dickey's song. It was Dickey who found the melody and changes for the first part watching his daughter play with beer cans and cigarette butts that Dickey had tossed on the floor in his writing and practice room. 

Indeed with Dickey writing FOUR songs on an album which sold over SEVEN million copies, Dickey jumped ahead of the others in the net worth department and Gregg filed for bankruptcy protection about 1983 leaving Dickey way out in front. 

It has been listed that when the Allman Brothers Band broke up and retired in 2014, Dickey was worth $40 million and Gregg was $15 million with Warren next at $12 million. 

Jaimoe was at $2 million and Butch twice that but was eventually at ZERO net worth after Butch received yet another big back tax bill from the IRS. 

Tom Petty taking half while the rest split what is left sounds like what a suite with a law degree would do. 

The founder of Fantasy Records took 90 percent of the royalties of Credence Clearwater Revival including 90 percent of the writing credits. But the band was poor and desperate to record and have a label backing them and after a few million selling albums they wanted to rework the contract and the answer was no.

John Fogerty went solo and for years refused to play the songs he wrote for CCR. 

Then you have the suites with the keys to the studio and the record label who demand a writing credit to get the artists songs recorded. One example is Marshall Sehorn on One Way Out. He made money off every copy of Eat A Peach which sold over 2 million copies and didn't write a note or a lyric. It was Elmore James and James borrowed some from Sonny Boy Williamson 2 so ended up having to split with Sonny Boy and Sehorn but Sehorn was just the suit with the keys to the studio and label who demanded a cut or no label or recording. That is dirty to me. 

B. B. King was forced into a similar contract and had to split his originals with a suite who didn't write a thing according to what I read. 

Most of B. B. King's songs are co-written by B. B. King and Jules Taub. Jules Taub is a pseudonym for Jules Bihari the owner of Kings first label and studio recordings. The contract demands King share his song writing with Taub for years hence. I can't remember exactly how long. 

I remember B. B. admitting later in life that Jules Taub didn't write anything. That B. B. said he had to do what he had to do like it or no to get in a studio and a label to back him in hopes of getting his career off the ground and make the bigger money off live shows. It worked. B. B. became famous and only Joe Bonamassa has charted as many albums on the Billboard blues album chart. I guess Joe will pass B. B. soon since Joe is still working and B. B. is off the road. 

Gregg Allman had to share his royalty on Melissa with Steve Alaimo and Steve didn't write a word. Steve loaned Gregg $500 dollars when Gregg was broke and Steve wanted a credit on Melissa and collateral. When Gregg got the $500 to pay Steve back, suddenly Steve Alamio wanted $10,000. 

Gregg eventually got a lawyer who got Steve Alamio 's name of the song. 

My original copy of Eat A Peach has Steve Alaimo listed as co-writer on Melissa. I used to wonder why Gregg co-wrote that song on Eat A Peach with Steve Alaimo who was a pop singer I remember from the early 1960's. Their styles are so different. Well Steve Alamo DID NOT write any of it. 

Steve Alaimo died last year of the year before. I recall one of his songs being a big hit single on Top 40 radio back in the early to mid 60's. Here it is!