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GREGG ALLMAN BAND : Tokyo 1977

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Interesting brief solo period for Gregg between ABB break-up and first reunion. Definitely not his best period, more of a curio.


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Posted : June 5, 2025 12:16 pm
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Interesting.  Can't identify many of the band.  Looks like Bill Stewart on drums, maybe Ricky Hirsch (Wet Willie) on one guitar?  Not the Laid Back band that I saw in 1973.  Layin' low in Tokyo!  😉 


 
Posted : June 5, 2025 5:03 pm
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Bill Stewart is the drummer. Bill played the drums on Laid Back.  I think Willie Weeks is bass. You got the guitar player right and the other was Steve somebody? 

I bought the album they recorded in LA, Playing Up A Storm. It sold only around 40,000 copies and Gregg said Phil Walden didn't care for it so only paid for 50,000 copies to be printed so not long after release it became hard to find which killed it. Gregg remained irritated at Phil Walden for that for years. 

Gregg did admit the producer in LA finally yelled at him for being tardy or a no show for sessions. 

Butch Trucks told Rolling Stones magazine back then " You can't depend on Gregg Allman for a **** thing". 

You probably already know how difficult and uninterested in Win, Loose or Draw Gregg was. Always a no show and Gregg doesn't play on several tracks. Johnny Sandlin had to fly to Los Angeles to get Gregg to agree to be on the album. And it was all overdubs. Except Can't Loose What You Never Had which I think Gregg did record with the band in Macon. 

I still enjoyed watching this from 1977 and Japan. Allman and Woman played in Japan too and some of that was on TV. Cher was there for this but not sure it's the same show. 

After Gregg and Cher broke up for good I think is when Gregg temporarily joined The Nighthawks. 

I saw one Nighthawks show in Atlanta and someone else here at this site said he was at the same show. Gregg was hot at that show and so were the Nighthawks. 


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Posted : June 5, 2025 7:12 pm
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Y'all just click on the YouTube link, and watch this on the Tube, and in the comments, you will get a track listing and the personnel listing. 

 

The YT version is better quality than what gets embedded - at least on my mobile.

 

 


 
Posted : June 13, 2025 12:19 am
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Gregg Allman - Vocals, Keyboards, Guitar

Rick Hirsch - Guitar

John Hug - Guitar

Neil Larsen - Keyboards

Charlie Dinwiddie - Saxophone, Percussion

Kenneth Burk - Bass

Bill Stewart - Drums

Cher - Vocals


 
Posted : June 13, 2025 3:49 am
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I’m still hoping for an official release of Gregg with the Nighthawks.  The show they did at Brothers Bar in Jacksonville with Johnny Shines opening is one of the best shows I ever heard


 
Posted : June 15, 2025 2:59 pm
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@linus I saw a show from that tour in Atlanta. Gregg and the Nighthawks were really cooking. The best it seemed from Gregg since Duane died. 

I'm not sure of the year but it must have been late  1977 or 1978. After Gregg and Cher split and before the ABB got back together in the latter half of 1978. 

I too would enjoy hearing a show from that tour. We had the impression Gregg had joined the Nighthawks but maybe he was just guesting with them for one tour. 


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Posted : June 15, 2025 3:05 pm
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There is a 2CD show in trading circles ...

 

The Nighthawks (with Gregg Allman)

Scorpion Lounge @ PA State College

8th May 1978

 

Gregg is on 11 of the 21 tracks


 
Posted : June 16, 2025 6:43 pm
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@harvey Thanks. So Gregg was with them in early 1978. That is what I was thinking.


 
Posted : June 16, 2025 9:32 pm
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Posted by: @robertdee

@harvey Thanks. So Gregg was with them in early 1978. That is what I was thinking.

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I don't know how many shows Gregg sat in with them ... but the only other recordings of the nighthawks from this time that I know of were a date in January 1978 and another on 18 May 1978 and he wasn't at either of those ...

 


 
Posted : June 17, 2025 5:41 am
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@harvey That makes it sound as if those who claimed Gregg had joined the Nighthawks were not accurate. 

I can't remember if Gregg touched on his brief time playing with the Nighthawks in his book. 

Apparently it was over between Gregg and Cher and he wanted to play again but his solo band had broken up after Cher left the last tour and filed for divorce and the Allman Brothers had broken up because of Gregg turning state's witness against Scooter Herring and not speaking to Gregg so apparently he got an invite from the Nighthawks to sit in with them for a run of shows. 

Then Dickey heard Gregg was put between a rock and a hard place by the drug police and prosecutor and approached Gregg about resuming the Allman Brothers Band. Butch and Jaimoe agreed and they played with Gregg doing an Allman Brothers Band set at Central Park at a Dickey Betts and Great Southern show. 


 
Posted : June 17, 2025 8:02 am
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The hip bumping with Cher literally broke my cringe meter 


 
Posted : June 17, 2025 7:36 pm
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@islalala Was that beyond the pale for ya? I present to you, Gregg from Ork!


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Posted : June 18, 2025 9:37 am
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