LOL- so the cowardly troll with a different user name reappears. We were almost troll free for a bit.

So you were there on the nights of those incidents and know exactly what happened such as "beating the crap" out of her? Thought so.

Dickey's actions have no bearing on any of this but don't let that stop you from further illogical bashing. Oh I forget you are a Dickey lover from his forum. How could we have missed that?

I never claimed any high road so I am always clear. Just thought if Marley and alter ego users like yourself would like to create imaginary accounts about what may have happen LONG ago in Dickey's life, well we may as well also throw out ACTUAL facts about Gregg.

Just as relevant. Meaning not at all.

So how many other user names do you hide behind? F'N Computer cowards - is there anything more pathetic?

I have a house in Florida so I am a little familiar with the gun laws. Florida has strict gun laws when it comes to pointing a gun at someone. She got off light as she could have gone to jail for a much longer period of time. Pretty fair to say she had an excellent lawyer and the legal bills probably ran in the high five figures. Had she not had the money for that type of lawyer, she would have had to serve a much longer sentence.

CanadianMule, if you can't see a "pattern of behavior" with the Betts as it relates to this incident, then you are just being bullheaded. OF COURSE the fact that Dickey and Donna have a volatile and violent past is "relevant" to this story.

Come on now, man. This isn't "Why is everybody being so mean to Dickey and Donna?" If your last name is Betts and you get arrested for pulling a gun on somebody, this what you are going to get. Don't like it? I got an idea. How about not pulling guns on people?

I'm a Falcons fan. When they blew a lead against the Dolphins last week, and people brought up the Superbowl, I wasn't all outraged about "Why are they bringing that up?" OF COURSE they were going to bring it up, because it naturally made people think "Oh, remember when this same kind of thing happened to these same people?"

In may be lazy analysis in both cases, but don't pretend that it's totally out of left field and has no place in the conversation.

Bessie didn't like her 30 days

If you can't do the time don't do the crime.

Lotta people handle difficult situations without pointing guns at
others. I don't feel sorry for her.

Rob

I don't contend that the obvious history of alcohol related Dickey stories will be brought up. Without the Dickey connection, neither us nor the media would be discussing this as Donna would not draw our attention.

But a domestic dispute in 93 is hardly relevant.

Besides I guess we should all just disregard the fact that Dickey didn't do it, or was he charged and he isn't going to jail.

Thank God I don't get judged on every stupid thing that I did 40 years ago. You guys?

I don't feel sorry for her or excuse her actions. Guns are never a solution in a civil world.

But we have owned property in Florida for 50 years now and I have seen many far more deserving of that jail cell.

But as I originally said - she took the risk with her stupid actions.

The circumstances are far beyond what any here have likely ever dealt with. You might not pull a gun in a drunken moment. Or maybe you would? I hope not. Easy to judge.

I don't see that taking joy or wishing ill upon her or especially Dickey accomplishes much besides negativity.

As for the situation at home, I feel for both Dickey and Donna. How many here have had a day camp with hundreds of kids move next door? Wedding bashes on weekends? This happens to you at the dream retirement property you invested in and now stand to lose millions?

I don't think many here have gone through that. I sure haven't and I guarantee that I did something stupid in 1993.

Hell I did in 2017 when I posted on this thread. 😛

Maybe she will find sobriety in her 30 days and maybe a new lease on life.

The twelve steps (by Russell Brand)

1. Are you fucked?

2. Could you not be fucked?

3. Are you, on your own, going to "unfuck" yourself?

4. Write down all the things that are fucking you up or have ever fucked you up and don’t lie, or leave anything out.

5. Honestly tell someone trustworthy about how fucked you are.

6. Well that’s revealed a lot of fucked up patterns. Do you want to stop it? Seriously?

7. Are you willing to live in a new way that’s not all about you and your previous, fucked up stuff? You have to.

8. Prepare to apologize to everyone for everything affected by your being so fucked up.

9. Now apologize. Unless that would make things worse.

10. Watch out for fucked up thinking and behaviour and be honest when it happens.

11. Stay connected to your new perspective.

12. Look at life less selfishly, be nice to everyone, help people if you can.

For anyone who wants to fix their lives and or distorted reactions to stuff, Albert Ellis, Rational Emotive Thinking can help those people do it. It can help you see where your thinking/beliefs are distorted, once you fix those, life gets easier, less stressful. Become self-actualized, and if you don't now what that means, find out and improve your life.

For anyone who wants to fix their lives and or distorted reactions to stuff, Albert Ellis, Rational Emotive Thinking can help those people do it. It can help you see where your thinking/beliefs are distorted, once you fix those, life gets easier, less stressful.

Interesting, strange that a person like yourself, who is obsessed with God and religion, would recommend Ellis who is a stone rationalist atheist, a cornerstone of his philosophy being that religion is comparable to mental disorder.

The opening sentence of his essay "THE CASE AGAINST RELIGIOSITY" pretty much sums up his view:

"This article will try to make a succinct and cogent case for the proposition that unbelief, skepticism, and thoroughgoing Atheism not only abet but are practically synonymous with mental health; and that devout belief, dogmatism, and religiousity distinctly contribute to and in some ways are equal to mental or emotional disturbance."

You are a very conflicted personality.

I guess I don't understand why people have to be put into a "box". You can take away what you want and leave the rest. Just because you may not entirely believe everything someone says doesn't mean that you can't agree with them on other things.

Really, we should all be looking for common ground, not our differences. It shows maturity when you can do that.

I applaud this post.

Nail on head. Head on nail,

A problem is people buying into pre-laid out schools of thought. Valid ideas exist in both Liberal and Conservative philosophies. Buying into company line politics eliminates one from free thinking. This is one of the reasons I don't discuss politics typically. I am such a mix of conservative, middle of the road, and liberal opinions that no preset ideologist ever agrees with me, or me them. Once people put labels on themselves, they are doomed IMO. Think for oneself, it works.

As for thread topic, I hope regardless of perceived severity, she sees this as a later in life teaching and the future holds more sane choices. Yes, she is lucky, and one should spin luck wisely.

Just talkin bout Shaft . . .

More Gun laws! More tests! More screenings!

LOL.....

Ask yourself this question..."would I ever threaten anyone with a gun"?

How did you get this gun? Were you moments away from actually pulling the trigger? Isn't this type of behavior the core of the problem? I guess we should reward her for her "willpower"....lol. If we went after this kind of crime like we pursue drug users, jails would be full with people showing this type of propensity towards gun violence.

30 days is getting off easy.