Sounds reasonable. Gun not loaded and threat to society overall factored in. I'm guessing they will have little sympathy of any future infractions, so this should be a solution. People get no time for selling heroin, actually assaulting people with injuries, and other victim crimes, so this fits fairly. Aren't there enough gang issues in Florida to allocate jail beds for, as a perspective prioritization? A month should be a wake up call. I did 10 days in 73 in New Mexico and it woke me up!

I don't know what an appropriate sentence looks like, but I hope they stop doing this stuff. However good or bad the zoning decisions are, I feel terrible for the people who are having their days or their weddings ruined because the Bettses are angry with the zoning board or land use people or whoever exactly they think did them wrong.

Re: the Betts' it is often said opposites attract. Seems these two, however, are cut from the same mold. Must be a fun house on a weekend evening if/when those two get to arguing. Just saying!!!

They're both sweethearts. Light(en) up.

They're both sweethearts. Light(en) up.

KK. We'll rent a canoe and go visit!!!!

I am fairly certain that we all have a tale or two about doing something stupid. I know I do.

As far as the Betts disturbing a wedding, I guess we should then disregard a couple of hundred kids moving in daily next door.

Property value - greatly affected
Privacy - gone
Peace and quiet of retirement home - gone
Effect on well being/health - fairly large I'm sure

Pretty sure every single person here would be pretty wrapped up in it.

Did she act in any sane manner that day? Obviously not. We have no idea on the full story or taunting going on. Pretty hard to be judge and jury.

Jail seems drastic to me but she broke the law which is the risk she took. Don't see bashing on her or taking delight in her sentence as something she deserves.

30 days away from the kids might be a holiday.

I am fairly certain that we all have a tale or two about doing something stupid. I know I do.

As far as the Betts disturbing a wedding, I guess we should then disregard a couple of hundred kids moving in daily next door.

Property value - greatly affected
Privacy - gone
Peace and quiet of retirement home - gone
Effect on well being/health - fairly large I'm sure

Pretty sure every single person here would be pretty wrapped up in it.

Did she act in any sane manner that day? Obviously not. We have no idea on the full story or taunting going on. Pretty hard to be judge and jury.

Jail seems drastic to me but she broke the law which is the risk she took. Don't see bashing on her or taking delight in her sentence as something she deserves.

30 days away from the kids might be a holiday.

Good call

If she's allowed to have music in there while doing her time, somebody should get her Humble Pie's 30 days in the Hole. She'll go in to jail as a soft spoken wife, and come out as a kick ass singer!

Gina Dickey's "I Got To Change My Way of Living" would be another for her to listen to. Dickey wrote that song sometime around the time Donna called the police on Dickey at a hotel while the band was on the road and Dickey shoved the police officer and ended up in jail and the band left him behind. I remember how angry Butch was about it. They had to get other guitar players to fill in. Dickey checked into rehab in Florida and admitted he had been on a two year drunk which was a lot of fun for him but not for the band and those around him and he wrote the song about then. But as with Gregg, the rehab didn't fix it. He went on the punch Butch in the nose for mouthing off to his face, something Duane himself wouldn't dare do to Dickey and pulled a knife on Allen Woody. I use to think it would have been wild if Ronnie Van Zant and Dickey would have been in the same band. A great bunch of songs being written but the singer and guitar player would be on stage with black eyes all the time. Ronnie was quick to brawl too. He went into the cockpit of their tragic flight when the two drunks they had for pilots forgot to fuel up and they ran out and crashed. Ronnie told them if they let the plane crash and they survived he was going to beat them bad. They said all they needed to do was run some gas over from the reserve tank but it was empty too. Sadly all three men were killed.

Yes Dickey must have put a good lawyer on the case. Dickey has deep pockets. He made more money than any of the Allman Brothers so he can afford it. And Dickey's sound and song writing was a huge part of the Allman Brothers success. So he deserved to have made a lot of money. I hope he and his wife find peace and happiness in their autumn years.

Wow Leafonthewind what a profound post. And your first one no less. One thing for certain Mr. nor Mrs. Betts are chickensh*t like yourself. That ain’t an opinion. 😉

Wow Leafonthewind what a profound post. And your first one no less. One thing for certain Mr. nor Mrs. Betts are chickensh*t like yourself. That ain’t an opinion. 😉

LOL but you may be speculating.

Doesn't make much sense. No speculating was going on anyway. Only opinion. Jail should be for hardened criminals and not moments of drunken stupidity. But again as I said, break the jail and run the risk. Give her more time? LOL - LIFE!!!!! I'm sure that will accomplish plenty.

Now Gina is cracking jokes and a multiple personality member mad.

When Gina makes you look like the crazy one then maybe keep it to one post. 😛

"I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x3724635

According to Ron Eckerman Ronnie Van Zant knocked Dickey out in a bar in 1977. The pilot story posted above never happened.

To appease the other side of the OpinionMeter:

Donna Betts must be Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really.. Really..

LUCKY... I mean REALLY LUCKY

She only got a measly, stinkin', lousy, inadequate, substandard, must be cause she's somebody, must have paid a lot to an attorney, certainly doesn't deserve it!, karma still will come, she should have a thousand rowers a day for this, crummy, tiny, miniscule, sub atomic particle size TRAVESTY of a so called jail sentence!

I mean really! REALLY!!!! Huff Huff Huff Snort Smart Dance! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

Hey man I've been posting on the d.Betts GB for a hundred years

What, did you.get shunned from there for your anti-Betts attitude?

In the immediate wake of the plane crash several press reports said Ronnie went into the cockpit and confronted the pilots. Later Billy Powell said he went to the cockpit to see what was wrong. Artymus Pyle also reported he went up. Their stories don't completely agree. It was said Ronnie was asleep on the floor when it became clear the plane was in trouble. And Ronnie was awake and was very pissed. So it's probably doubtful Ronnie went to the cockpit. But a couple of accounts indicated Ronnie didn't get a seat belt on and when the plane went in, the cockpit twisted and the top of the plane split open and Ronnie was thrown violently from the plane and into a tree killing him instantly.

Supposedly Dickey was the only member of the Allman Brothers to attend Ronnie's funeral.

I don't know if I believe Ronnie knocked Dickey out of his chair. He absolutely did not knock out Dickey in a bar. Dickey would have killed him. Maybe not that day but Betts would have knocked on Ronnie's door with a gun or knife plus Dickey is karate. Dickey did do a tour with Great Southern in 1977 with s huge black eye but it was a fight within Dickey's band with the keyboard player, bass player and one of the drummer being fired. If you check the lineup of the debut Dickey and Great Southern album and Atlanta's Burning Down, you see three of the musicians had been replaced.

My guess Ronnie and Dickey respected each other. If there had been a significant fight between Dickey and Ronnie, it would have made the news and Rolling Stone. Dickey knocked out a man back stage at an ABB show in 1990. I think it was in Washington DC and Bob Dylan was there but it made the news. I remember reading the story.

Calling for a tougher sentence strikes me as being on the "anti" side of the courtroom.

if anything she probably deserved MORE jail time not less.

If I was up on charges and someone said this I would consider them opposition.

How is your stance on this being taken on the red site? Kinda looks like you showed up here just special for this one.

If you MUST speculate as an internet sport, considering that the Betts' are white, rich, and famous, if anything she probably deserved MORE jail time not less.

Feel better? Still looks like trashtalking Donna Betts.

Would you express your opinion on this to her or Dickey in person?

I can see why you defected from the red site - just checked, the discussion forums died out quite a while ago. Welcome. This site seems to be breathing its last as well.

Donna Betts Shmonna Shmetts.

[Edited on 10/16/2017 by BrerRabbit]

Would you express your opinion on this to her or Dickey in person?

I don't know if this is intended to read like one of those "Oh yeah? Would you say it to his face??" posts, and forgive my misinterpretation if it's not, but... can we be honest about this? We all know Dickey has been charged at least twice with domestic violence against her. It's been hanging over this whole discussion and I didn't want to bring it up either, but there comes a point where it's just ignoring reality. For that matter he ALSO reportedly threatened some rowers with guns - he just had the sense not to point the gun at anyone like she did. Not to mention the knife incident in "One Way Out."

It would probably be a very bad idea to bring this up with either of them for exactly that reason, but that doesn't make it any less true. And the point of the above is not gossip or judgment; hopefully he's gotten help, and if that's so and they've chosen to stay together, it's their business. But we ought to be honest about what we're talking about, both in talking about him and in talking about what she was just sentenced to jail for.

it's their business

exactly.

it's their business

exactly.

Since you didn't quote even a full sentence, I'm not sure you're interpreting that line the way it was written.

Moved on . Honestly couldn't care less . Hope the Betts are doing ok. nuf said. Peace.

5 years probation, mandatory pop quiz drug tests, community service, and 30 days in the clink as well. The sentence sounds fair to me regarding the real issue was triggered by drug or alcohol related reasons.

Goob, the real issue is not having the coping and decision making skills that the situation required. Ten people may be faced with the same situation, yet the choices and decisions each makes in regard to the situation can be very different. Her actions at the time of the incident indicate she just did not know what else to do to make them stop. The aggravation went on for a long time, till it led up to a Clint Eastwood type moment (Grand Torino - 'get off my lawn'). I saw some of the videos of the rowers, and I don't know how anyone could deal with that constantly in their back yard, it wasn't just a few kids and their teacher. The situation reached the point that there was no harmony anymore; so what are the options? The most rational one is if that group is not going to change how often they hold classes, how many people there are there, or do something about the noise from the weddings, then the question becomes, do you want to keep living near people who are totally disrupting peace in your lives and if the answer is No, then you got to move on.

Can't get hung up on 'it shouldn't be that way' or 'why do they have to keep doing this sht', it don't matter why, the reality is they will continue as long as they have the property there to do it, and the student base. Do you want that in your life? Things change, when a place becomes unbearable, you got to move on to someplace else. That is the best thing to do to have peace in your life and peace is priceless. Your peace and your health are the most important things. Money comes and goes, but your peace and your health you can take someplace else and be happy.

You just got to take the change, make the choice.

I hope they find find peace, trying to block out the crap by drinking is only just putting a band aid on the wound, it doesn't fix the problem. They love where they live, but they have no peace there, if peace cannot be re-established there, then they have no choice, they got to move on or watch their lives go to hell.

According to Ron Eckerman Ronnie Van Zant knocked Dickey out in a bar in 1977. The pilot story posted above never happened.

What the late Ron Eckerman actually claimed was: Ronnie knocked Dickey out of his chair backstage at an L.S. show . I agree on the pilot story, by all accounts Ronnie was asleep when the plane crash occurred.

[Edited on 10/15/2017 by pops42]