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Dickey Betts Band 1986 12 16 Westbury, NY

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porkchopbob
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Interesting show. Definitely a transition period for Dickey after hanging around Nashville and before hooking up with Warren. Anyone know who the other singer is?

Intro
Hideaway
Just the Night
Your Memory Ain't What It Used to Be
Blue Sky
Thunder & Lightning
Crime of the Century
Ain't Nothin' You Can Do
Jessica


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Posted : September 19, 2024 4:59 pm
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Hideaway was excellent. Great guitar playing by Dickey. 

It is such a pleasure to hear Dickey play solos when he wasn't too far in the bag. He had his own sound and style which was for me the best. 

I saw some of those 1986 shows and the Gregg Allman Band was on three of the five I saw. Third set the two bands would merge and do an Allman Brothers set with Danny Toler and Dickey on Les Paul's. When it was just Dickey's band in the mid 80's he played an Ibanez Artisan some. Played it when he opened for Hank Jr. some in 1984 and Dickey had that old Strat some too. It sounds as if he used it here on Hideaway. 

Dickey had another guitar player who sang some but as best as I can remember, only played rhythm guitar. Marty Prevett (sp) on bass and Matt Apts on drums. Chuck Leavell played a few dates with Dickey that year but wasn't at any I saw. 

The Blue Sky on this show is sensational!! Such a melodic plus intense solo from Dickey played only as he could. 

Those versions of Blue Sky the last Allman Brothers lineup did., Gregg singing then Warren were so off the mark vocally and the solos to me. It certainly made an old fan like me realize how not to play a Betts Blue Sky in a band called the Allman Brothers Band. Those versions belonged in one of their solo bands only. Not in a band using Allman Brothers Band. 

 


 
Posted : September 19, 2024 6:11 pm
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Good post robertdee, yes in one sense, Blue Sky sung & played so differently as it was later on - Dickey’s absence is almost, or all-but, the front & center of those versions

one thing I really liked about the later versions is the change back to its original EAP key 

🍄keen to listen to that 1986 show


 
Posted : September 19, 2024 7:03 pm
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Posted by: @robertdee

Those versions of Blue Sky the last Allman Brothers lineup did., Gregg singing then Warren were so off the mark vocally and the solos to me.

Nah they were amazing and better than Great Southern during that period. And as @stephen points out, back in E where it sounds best.

 


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Posted : September 20, 2024 8:37 am
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@porkchopbob  I saw the last line up with Gregg singing once and 3 or 4 times with Warren singing and I didn't like any of them. Including the solos. 

I would hit the restroom or concession stand the last couple of times. Then I quit seeing the ABB all together about 2010. Did see the Brothers show at the beginning of the Covid pandemic and liked it a lot but that band didn't call itself The Allman Brothers Band. 

Seeing the Allman Brothers Band performing Blue Sky without Dickey Betts singing and playing a solo is like seeing the Rolling Stones play Honky Tonk Women with Ron Wood singing instead of Mick Jagger. Not for me!! 

And Derek Trucks CAN'T play circles around Duane Allman on slide. I bet Derek wouldn't say that. I think Derek is an excellent side player and Jack Pearson is too. Jaimoe said Jack Pearson was the closest to Duane's style but that is his opinion and we all like different things and foods and colors and automobiles etc. 

I happen to like the way Duane plays those old songs better than Derek, Jack Pearson, Warren etc. Duane's hard edge tone and energy on slide is second to none to me. 

Hope you and everyone have a great weekend. 

 

 

 


 
Posted : September 20, 2024 12:49 pm
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@porkchopbob  I saw the last line up with Gregg singing once and 3 or 4 times with Warren singing and I didn't like any of them. Including the solos. 

I would hit the restroom or concession stand the last couple of times. Then I quit seeing the ABB all together about 2010. Did see the Brothers show at the beginning of the Covid pandemic and liked it a lot but that band didn't call itself The Allman Brothers Band. 

Seeing the Allman Brothers Band performing Blue Sky without Dickey Betts singing and playing a solo is like seeing the Rolling Stones play Honky Tonk Women with Ron Wood singing instead of Mick Jagger. Not for me!! 

And Derek Trucks CAN'T play circles around Duane Allman on slide. I bet Derek wouldn't say that. I think Derek is an excellent side player and Jack Pearson is too. Jaimoe said Jack Pearson was the closest to Duane's style but that is his opinion and we all like different things and foods and colors and automobiles etc. 

I happen to like the way Duane plays those old songs better than Derek, Jack Pearson, Warren etc. Duane's hard edge tone and energy on slide is second to none to me. 

Hope you and everyone have a great weekend. 

I like good music and those versions of "Blue Sky" are stellar. Music is not a competition. If you're waiting for Duane or Dickey to walk on stage you're always going to be disappointed. Just as the ABB kept Elmore James' music alive, so shall the ABB's music by others.

 


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Posted : September 20, 2024 12:56 pm
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I'm all for good music and I go see different people and bands. 

What I'm taking about is a band billing itself as XYZ and ABC is one of your favorite songs and you go but the singer/soloist you admire and love isn't in that band any more. It's one of the other guys singing and playing ABC in the XYZ band. Suddenly it's a different singer and soloist. 

That is why I stopped seeing the Allman Brothers Band after they didn't break up as some rumors claimed in 2009. 

I continued to see Gov't Mule and TTB and lots of other bands and artists and if one of them played Blue Sky it was enjoyable. 

What wasn't enjoyable to me was paying for an Allman Brothers Band ticket and Dickey didn't sing and play Blue Sky. 

Butch Trucks claimed they were phasing out Dickey's songs and even he said it didn't sound right to do Blue Sky with Warren singing. But that didn't happen. Butch was wrong about the band ditching Dickey's songs so I stopped going in 2009 or 10. But I didn't stop seeing Mule and TTB and others playing good music. 

I had two friends decades ago ( one is deceased now) who wouldn't see the ABB anymore after Berry Oakley died. They were opposed to the band callings itself the Allman Brothers Band after Duane and Oakley died. But they saw Gregg and Dickey solo in the 70's and 80's. Both became big Little Feat fans and rarely talked about the ABB. Just Little Feat over and over and their favorite in that band died. I can't remember what they did then. 

Guess I march to a different drummer Porkchop. But we can still be friends? 

 


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