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twobug
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I would like to post very respectfully to those of you here on this first day of the New Year 2016, a Happy one to you all.
I have seen some posts here regarding Bobby and myself and hope to bring some light to any questions any of you may have regarding us or Bobby's friendship/relationship with Duane. Also to enlighten anyone who is interested in the stories told by Bobby. I see that there are a few people that are confused over which story to believe. Everyone has their own version of a story, no two is alike. But we will do our best to answer any questions you may have.
All I know is that Bobby loved Duane..the first time they met was when he was with Delaney and Bonnie, not at Stax. Despite what anyone may say, Bobby loved Delaney very much. Our story is long and involved, but it was never a sordid one. We came together in a beautiful way and that did not involve some of the things I have heard or read. Bobby never "ran off with Delaney's wife" (me). I left Delaney, sadly due to his addiction and abuse. That story is of course in Bobby's book...my version is slightly different, that is how stories are.
Thank you and ABB for allowing our participation in this site.
X CC


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 5:34 am
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All in the past, and this is a new day. Cool
Happy New Year, Bonnie.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 7:05 am
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Happy New Year
thanks for you post, and thanks for all the incredible music


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 7:11 am
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This is CoCo (and Bobby when he so chooses to answer),
I don't know who the Bonnie is and am not concerned about that. TwoBug was our publishing name, however that turned out to be Bobby's. So there you have it.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 7:58 am
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I am certain that a moderator on this site can indeed confirm that I am who I say I am.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 8:03 am
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Bonnie thank you.. I've seen you a couple times over the years and have never been disappointed!


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 9:40 am
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I am certain that a moderator on this site can indeed confirm that I am who I say I am.

Welcome, Coco Carmel! and Bobby Whitlock! Grin

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Thank you very much, nice to be here. Great site and thread.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 11:15 am
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CoCo and Bobby, it's good to see you two here. I really enjoyed the posts years ago on the Steve Hoffman Music forum. Didn't that lead Bobby to write his book?


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 12:09 pm
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Hi Salcapitano...Thank you, it is a pleasure to be here, the Steve Hoffman Forum was epic, and yes it led to Bobby writing his book and our friendship with Marc Roberty.
And Pops42...thank you so much, and too for mentioning the dvd Road to Austin, that was a fabulous show..our only regret is losing Stephen Bruton so soon.
Still not sure of the best way to respond to an individual post here.

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Posted : January 1, 2016 1:47 pm
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CoCo and Bobby, it's good to see you two here. I really enjoyed the posts years ago on the Steve Hoffman Music forum.

Same here - thanks for all the posts on that forum.

You seem to be responding fine.
You can also use the quote function.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 2:22 pm
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CoCo and Bobby, it's good to see you two here. I really enjoyed the posts years ago on the Steve Hoffman Music forum.

Same here - thanks for all the posts on that forum.

You seem to be responding fine.
You can also use the quote function.

Thank you so much, glad to know that you were on the Hoffman Forum. We could not believe how that whole thing took off like fire agfter simply answering a question which was who was the girl on the inside sleeve.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 3:24 pm
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CoCo and Bobby, it's good to see you two here. I really enjoyed the posts years ago on the Steve Hoffman Music forum.

Same here - thanks for all the posts on that forum.

You seem to be responding fine.
You can also use the quote function.

Thank you so much, glad to know that you were on the Hoffman Forum. We could not believe how that whole thing took off like fire after simply answering a question which was "who was the girl on the inside sleeve of the Layla record?" (Kay Poorboy).

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Posted : January 1, 2016 3:25 pm
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We could not believe how that whole thing took off like fire after simply answering a question which was who was the girl on the inside sleeve of the Layla record (Kay Poorboy).

[Edited on 1/2/2016 by twobug]

That was pretty amazing. All from one simple question. I don't remember what the answer was back then but did the members of D&D appear together on Bobby's first album and if so did they play together on a song or as individuals throughout the disc.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 3:30 pm
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We could not believe how that whole thing took off like fire after simply answering a question which was who was the girl on the inside sleeve of the Layla record (Kay Poorboy).

[Edited on 1/2/2016 by twobug]

That was pretty amazing. All from one simple question. I don't remember what the answer was back then but did the members of D&D appear together on Bobby's first album and if so did they play together on a song or as individuals throughout the disc.

Bobby says: we had George Harrison and Klaus Voorman, Carl was not on the first record except Country Life with Jim Keltner which was recorded in California at another time. So the answer to that question is that Bobby had George Harrison and Eric and Klaus Voorman, Jim Gordon all in the same room at the same time recording. Andy Johns behind the board.
They overdubbed Bobby Keys and Jim Price.

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Posted : January 1, 2016 3:44 pm
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I've got to think up some more questions for you. Right now I'm drawing blanks. Too much info stored in my head. I read in Galadrial Allman's book that Duane seriously considered joining D&D. In a letter to his wife, Donna, he states that he was offered a lot of money to join the band along with a 20% cut. I had never heard that before reading the book and seeing the letter. I would assume that the rest of the band was in agreement on this.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 3:53 pm
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Bobby: It never went to the table, none of this is true. All they (Bobby and Eric)did was ask Duane if he wanted to join the band, and Duane said no, and that he wouldn't leave his brother. No negotiations were ever discussed and certainly no money or percentages. The Dominos had already signed their contracts, they were with Robert Stigwood at the time and there were only four members, that was that. We still have the original contracts. There was no Duane. He was paid a session fee, and hired purely as a session musician and was also doing a session with Sam The Sham at the same time in studio B at Criteria.
Duane never thought it over (re being asked to be in the Dominos), he was asked and said right then no I can't do it.

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Posted : January 1, 2016 4:25 pm
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So far this is a pretty interesting thread. It brought back some memories about the Steve Hoffman forum and how the Bobby Whitlock's book came about. An excellent book I might add.

It's amazing how such a small question in an online music forum or the fact that Eric and Duane were in the same city at the same time can come up with something historic or creative. History can really turn on a dime can't it.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 5:59 pm
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So far this is a pretty interesting thread. It brought back some memories about the Steve Hoffman forum and how the Bobby Whitlock's book came about. An excellent book I might add.

It's amazing how such a small question in an online music forum or the fact that Eric and Duane were in the same city at the same time can come up with something historic or creative. History can really turn on a dime can't it.

Who would have known that it was going to turn out the way it did, quite naturally..the best way. Bobby wrote for 17 months straight. And then one day it stopped. There are over 500 stories, most would never make it into the book. For some reason the stories keep flowing. Thanks very much.


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 6:22 pm
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Who would have known that it was going to turn out the way it did, quite naturally..the best way. Bobby wrote for 17 months straight. And then one day it stopped. There are over 500 stories, most would never make it into the book. For some reason the stories keep flowing. Thanks very much.

So how about one of those 500 stories. Bobby has had one hell of a career. The D&B time and the D&D time are some of my favorite music. It was a great time for music and the man was a big part of it. Oh to be a fly on the wall. So much emotion. How did you come upon Hittin the Web with the Allman Brothers?


 
Posted : January 1, 2016 6:58 pm
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So how about one of those 500 stories. Bobby has had one hell of a career. The D&B time and the D&D time are some of my favorite music. It was a great time for music and the man was a big part of it. Oh to be a fly on the wall. So much emotion. How did you come upon Hittin the Web with the Allman Brothers?

There is talk of another book because of the many stories. Bobby was indeed an integral part of many historical events in musical history in the seventies. In fact, I think he was in more places than anyone in those days from Stax, D&B,George Harrison,Derek & The Dominos,The Stones, Capricorn and more. His contribution to each of these were more than just being a musician, his endless ideas, songwriting and singing influenced all of these people.
Bobby is the only musician that played on three seminal albums of the seventies: Layla, All Things Must Pass and Exile on Main Street. Layla (Derek & The Dominos) of course being his own band.
He has never considered himself a sideman, he feels quite the contrary and will argue with you about that, and rightfully so.
I was on the web searching for something and saw a post that happened to be from this site, just like the Hoffman Forum.
The information regarding Bobby, myself and others was completely wrong.
Thank you
CC

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Posted : January 2, 2016 6:33 am
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I'm well acquainted with guitarist Les Dudek. He played on a Capricorn album with Bobby. Les is credited on one song, however, (and bear in mind our discussion was many years later) Les thought that he'd actually played on numerous cuts. I know that back in that day, due to contractual arrangements etc., musicians might appear on a certain release but not receive any credit once it was released.

Does Bobby recall Les's participation on the Rock Your Sox off release and how much Les may have contributed?


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Posted : January 2, 2016 7:50 am
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Also, what are some releases that Bobby may have been involved in that he never received credit for?


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Posted : January 2, 2016 8:01 am
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Also, what are some releases that Bobby may have been involved in that he never received credit for?

Bobby has just recently been credited (September) for his participation in the writing of Bell Bottom Blues, that is major and a wonderful thing that Eric has done, we are very grateful.

One of the other most famous was Exile on Mainstreet, Bobby not only played on that track, he co-wrote it, his input was the music, it was his music. Mick asked him about his dad who was a preacher and asked Bobby to play something with a gospel feel (while they waited on Keith to show up), you will find the story in the following interview from a couple of months ago on PBS Facio/Create:

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Posted : January 2, 2016 10:02 am
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I'm well acquainted with guitarist Les Dudek. He played on a Capricorn album with Bobby. Les is credited on one song, however, (and bear in mind our discussion was many years later) Les thought that he'd actually played on numerous cuts. I know that back in that day, due to contractual arrangements etc., musicians might appear on a certain release but not receive any credit once it was released.

Does Bobby recall Les's participation on the Rock Your Sox off release and how much Les may have contributed?

Bobby says that the producer (Paul Hornsby) and Capricorns (Phil Walden) kept bringing in guitar players...he just mentioned seven of them to me just now including Les and Dickie Betts. It got crazy and Bobby never lived those records so to speak, he never went out and played the songs. He got a bit fed up with the whole thing and does not remember who was on what on the guitar... (because he didn't care about it very much). The producer may or may not have used any particular guitar player for a number of songs even if they may have played on more than one.


 
Posted : January 2, 2016 10:11 am
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So what are you guys up to nowadays, what projects are you working on?

Also, talking up Eric Clapton, any particular reason why Bobby didn't play with Eric when he did the tour a few years back that touched on quite a few songs from the Layla record? He had a pretty hot band with a couple of real good guitar players in Doyle Bramhall II and Derek Trucks. I caught the show in Auburn Hills just after Trucks left for Allman Brothers obligations and was bummed he wasn't there. Clapton was really playing some inspired versions of those old songs. He can be hit and miss on tour, even to the point of looking bored but that show was very hot.

Thanks again for hanging out, this is a nice way to bring in the new year!


 
Posted : January 2, 2016 12:19 pm
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So what are you guys up to nowadays, what projects are you working on?

Also, talking up Eric Clapton, any particular reason why Bobby didn't play with Eric when he did the tour a few years back that touched on quite a few songs from the Layla record? He had a pretty hot band with a couple of real good guitar players in Doyle Bramhall II and Derek Trucks. I caught the show in Auburn Hills just after Trucks left for Allman Brothers obligations and was bummed he wasn't there. Clapton was really playing some inspired versions of those old songs. He can be hit and miss on tour, even to the point of looking bored but that show was very hot.

Thanks again for hanging out, this is a nice way to bring in the new year!

That was several years ago. We were invited to one of the shows in Birmingham..and you can hear Eric dedicate Anyday to Bobby on a video from that show (

). Eric did some Dominos Songs at the behest of Doyle and Derek Trucks. The only time the two have played together since D&D, was on Later with Jools on the BBC back in 2000. What we have been told is that it pains Eric to play that stuff, it was a bad time in his life and he does not wish to do a D&D reunion of any kind for the same reason. If Bobby were to join him onstage, it would turn into a D&D reunion of sorts and people would literally go crazy, Eric doesn't want that.
As for us, we just finished a Tour of the East coast and play in Austin on occasion. Getting ready to go out on the road again.

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Posted : January 2, 2016 7:01 pm
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Great to see you here Coco... welcome to the site!


 
Posted : January 2, 2016 11:12 pm
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Great to see you here Coco... welcome to the site!

Great to be here, thank you very much

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Posted : January 3, 2016 4:58 am
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Wondering if the vocals on D & D were arranged or just kind of happened? They certainly sound pretty loose and spontaneous, which is one of the things I love about the album. Wasn't Eric pretty reluctant to sing prior to that?


 
Posted : January 3, 2016 5:14 am
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Welcome CC. Let me say that your husband was no side man. He was as integral to D&D ( and other bands ) as EC was. Of course Duane certainly brought so much to Layla. But Bobby wrote and sang ( and of course played ) some of the greatest songs EVER. I love all the stories ! Keep them coming ! And Happy New Year too.


 
Posted : January 3, 2016 5:43 am
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