@bill_graham: I got the same Ticketmaster email this morning, $20 lawn seats (I have zero interest in sitting on the lawn at Shoreline Amphitheatre it's like watching a show on TV). And I looked at the reserved sections, like you say, they have a LOT of tickets available and still some very decent seats. Seems like they may have dropped the prices a bit too. Obviously the Crowes are possibly not quite as big a draw as they might have expected. But I think I'm going to pass on The Crowes. Two reserved would still come to $170 with fees and I've recently bought three very good club shows for this summer for between $35 and $54 for two tickets. The bigger buck shed show I did buy (same venue) was The Outlaw Festival in October: Willie, Avett Brothers, Gov't Mule, Lucinda, Ida Mae. Came to $200 for two.
I wish the Robinson brothers the best on this tour. I saw Chris Robinson Brotherhood twice and his other project Green Leaf Rustlers twice also. Both great bands and to be honest they were going musically into areas I find more interesting than anything the Crowes will do, although I do like The Black Crowes. I imagine Chris was selling enough tickets for CRB and GLR to get by, but "get by" only, and COVID delivered a huge hit to even that. I would bet that Rich Robinson solo had an even tougher time. No secret why the Crowes are going to tour, but who can blame them? If someone turned me on to a ticket I would love to see them otherwise just not motivated.
@bill_graham: I got the same Ticketmaster email this morning, $20 lawn seats (I have zero interest in sitting on the lawn at Shoreline Amphitheatre it's like watching a show on TV). And I looked at the reserved sections, like you say, they have a LOT of tickets available and still some very decent seats. Seems like they may have dropped the prices a bit too. Obviously the Crowes are possibly not quite as big a draw as they might have expected. But I think I'm going to pass on The Crowes. Two reserved would still come to $170 with fees and I've recently bought three very good club shows for this summer for between $35 and $54 for two tickets. The bigger buck shed show I did buy (same venue) was The Outlaw Festival in October: Willie, Gov't Mule, Lucinda, Ida Mae. Came to $200 for two.
I wish the Robinson brothers the best on this tour. I saw Chris Robinson Brotherhood twice and his other project Green Leaf Rustlers twice also. Both great bands and to be honest they were going musically into areas I find more interesting than anything the Crowes will do, although I do like The Black Crowes. I imagine Chris was selling enough tickets for CRB and GLR to get by, but "get by" only, and COVID delivered a huge hit to even that. I would bet that Rich Robinson solo had an even tougher time. No secret why the Crowes are going to tour, but who can blame them? If someone turned me on to a ticket I would love to see them otherwise just not motivated.
Yeah I most likely will pass as well unless I get an offer I Can't refuse. I just dropped a good chunk of change to rent a beach house on Cape Cod for a week with the family in early August so concert funds are low at this point.
Nice grab on the Outlaw Festival tix as I am a huge Mule fan and have never seen Willie Nelson in concert. The tour is not coming too close to where I live so it lowers the temptation to splurge on tix and drive a couple of hours one way.
Please give us a review after the Festival.
@bill_graham Very interesting interview. All these icons wanted to meet Chris because they liked the new record except Gregg who didn't give a (blank). Gregg could be cocky at times. He got that way with Phil and the entire Allman Brothers Band just after he met Cher. Most of the time in 1975 Gregg didn't give a (blank) about recording Win, Lose or Draw or Johnny Sandlin who couldn't get Gregg on the phone most of the time.
Butch said at the time in an interview with Rolling Stone "You can't depend on Gregg Allman for a thing".
Crazy. Here in Chicago they actually raised the prices. Now it is is $48 face just to sit on the lawn. So I put in two tix. $115.55 out the door. Oh and an extra $7.25 for insurance if you want it on your "seats". Hmm... I guess I see what people are saying about this. Not paying 60 bucks to see them.
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Just keeps getting funnier. I got an email from The Black Crowes. They gave me a code to get 10% off the ticket price but they jacked up the price of lawn seats to 50 bucks. In one day. So they are raising the price yet trying to entice you with a discount. 🤔
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Just keeps getting funnier. I got an email from The Black Crowes. They gave me a code to get 10% off the ticket price but they jacked up the price of lawn seats to 50 bucks. In one day. So they are raising the price yet trying to entice you with a discount. 🤔
Maybe tickets are selling better in Chicago but out here I think they hit the wall and there are tons of tickets left.
May be they will start selling again as things have opened up again in Massachusetts or maybe or maybe they will need to have more sales to sell those cheap seats and also lower prices on the better seats. I can wait and see as I won't mind if I don't end up going but would grab some tix if the better seats drop in price.
When I lived in the Detroit suburbs the biggest shed was Pine Knob. The ABB played there every year for quite some time. When classic rock bands were touring in one of those package shows (two or three old bands) tix were often priced at $7.50. I used to get free ones sitting on the counter of the 7-11 at the end of my street.
Saw a bunch of bands; Fleetwood Mac (they sucked), Kansas, Skynyrd with Bad Company, Ray Davies of the Kinks, Three Dog Night, REO. A bunch of other ones.
Point being, anything to get you in the door because you are going to spend a lot of money.
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Funny story from Chris Robinson during a 2017 interview with Howard Stern about meeting Gregg Allman. The Gregg story starts at 1:26 into the interview.
I remember hearing this interview whenit first came out. I busted out laughing!!! Funny stuff!!
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
I understand the concept lee. Much like the airlines practice of dynamic pricing a concert promoter knows it is better to fill a seat at half price then to leave it empty.
They will make a little on the discounted ticket and more on concessions and maybe a cut on merchandise.
20+ years ago when I was single I would go for the nose bleed cheap tickets with a bunch of friends as none of us had kids and the tailgating was as important as the music. Now that I am a senior and married with young daughters, and have less discretionary income, tailgating is not that important to me and I no longer care to sit in the nosebleeds so I am very picky on where I sit and can reasonably afford to spend on concert tickets.
I would rather go see Gov't Mule at a small venue and sit in great seats for under $100 then spend several hundred dollars for "platinum" level tickets just to get decent seats to a big name act.
The only exception would be to go see the Rolling Stones where I am willing to pay more for decent seats or sit in the nosebleeds as it is still as much a social event as a concert for me and my friends.
But YMMV and everyone has different priorities these days.
Kind of off topic but I thought about going to the Cubs game tonight since we don't have to get up early tomorrow. The best seat is $164 before fees. So it's about $400 for a pair before you even walk in the door. I've sat everywhere in that place and nothing is worth that much. They even charge you extra for aisle seats to your point of dynamic pricing.
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@lee Wow! What prices. I use to go to Yankee Stadium in the late 1950's and 1960's when my dad was in New York City a lot for $15.00. The better seats if you could get 10 to 15 rows behind home plate were $28.00.
Mickey Mantle eventually was paid $100 thousand a year which at the time seemed an enormous salary.
$15.00 to get in to see bands back in the 1970's. I have a Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels ticket from 1966 that is $12.00.
@lee Wow! What prices. I use to go to Yankee Stadium in the late 1950's and 1960's when my dad was in New York City a lot for $15.00. The better seats if you could get 10 to 15 rows behind home plate were $28.00.
Mickey Mantle eventually was paid $100 thousand a year which at the time seemed an enormous salary.
$15.00 to get in to see bands back in the 1970's. I have a Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels ticket from 1966 that is $12.00.
OT, Before I moved to Mass I lived an hour and change from the old Yankee Stadium. I would drive down to the stadium solo in the 1980's and early 90's and buy field box tickets from scalpers for less than $30. In those days the stadium would be half full so getting cheap tickets was easy.
When I would go with friends we would buy the cheapest tickest and sit field level in empty seats and if anyone showed up we would just move our seats. Never had issues with ushers as there were so many empty seats.
Can't do that these days as the Yanks draw 3 mill a year in the new stadium and even upper deckers are no longer cheap.
Back on topic I saw the Crowes with Luthar Dickinson in the band and at a packed Boston HOB for $60. Last saw them at the Boston Orpheum again for less than $100.
This is the same crap that Chris and Rich have pulled for years. In 1997 it was "Marc's so fucked up he's not even playing the same song as the rest of the band", instead of just, "Our brother Marc is hooked on heroin and we need to try and help him". I'm sure his playing suffered but most of their shows were taped and traded during this period and I've yet to hear the show where he's playing different songs than the rest of the band plus this was part of the Horde tour where there were other bands who would ask Chris and Marc to sit in with them sometimes for a few songs. Who would ask Marc if he was that bad? Anyway my point is every time the shit hits the fan the Robinson's usually blame anyone but themselves for it and since he wrote the book telling everyone what assholes they are this time it's Steve's turn. I think he said before they ever decided to get back together that he wouldn't be a part of it if it happened so I guess everyone is happy.
They apparently are close to settling with Steve
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/black-crowes-settling-lawsuit-steve-gorman-royalties/
Gorman's book was a very interesting read but also incredibly negative. I doubt he and the Robinson brothers have spoken since it came out and doubt they ever will again. I don't think Gorman really needed to bash Chris Robinson as much as he did in his book.
Gorman's book was a very interesting read but also incredibly negative. I doubt he and the Robinson brothers have spoken since it came out and doubt they ever will again. I don't think Gorman really needed to bash Chris Robinson as much as he did in his book.
He could have been a little less harsh but evidently there is a lot of bad blood on Gorman's part towards Chris.
Remember Chris tried to get Gorham give up his partnership share as part of the deal to reunite the last time the band regrouped. I know if it was me I would be ticked off.
Then again if it is the truth is it really bashing or just telling the truth?
I listened to the audio book where Gorman did the read and you could feel the emotion in his voice when he talked about Chris. Highly recommend way to check out the book as it really adds to the emotion of what Gorman felt when he wrote it.
Gorman's book was a very interesting read but also incredibly negative. I doubt he and the Robinson brothers have spoken since it came out and doubt they ever will again. I don't think Gorman really needed to bash Chris Robinson as much as he did in his book.
He could have been a little less harsh but evidently there is a lot of bad blood on Gorman's part towards Chris.
Remember Chris tried to get Gorham give up his partnership share as part of the deal to reunite the last time the band regrouped. I know if it was me I would be ticked off.
Then again if it is the truth is it really bashing or just telling the truth?
I listened to the audio book where Gorman did the read and you could feel the emotion in his voice when he talked about Chris. Highly recommend way to check out the book as it really adds to the emotion of what Gorman felt when he wrote it.
I was thinking just a few days ago about this and if anything became of it. Good for Steve.
You hear stories about the Robinson Brothers, maybe more so Chris, so personally I do not doubt what Steve has said. Whether he went to far with it , is up for debate. Johnny Colt was on the State Of Amorica podcast about a year ago, and from what he said, pretty much in line with Mr. Gorman.
Who knows.... Lot of times there can three sides to a story. The truth lies between the two.
Below is an excerpt about giving up their shares.
When THE BLACK CROWES announced their split in 2014, Rich issued a statement saying that he loved his brother and respected his talent but that "his present demand that I must give up my equal share of the band and that our drummer for 28 years and original partner, Steve Gorman, relinquish 100 percent of his share … is not something I could agree to."
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
