I downloaded the book last night but am trying to read it chronologically without skipping ahead, and haven't gotten to the Page era. But thanks for not blowing it for me!
I do find it somewhat interesting that Page played with them in 2011 in London, so wonder how that plays into it.
I'll find out soon, I suppose!
I always thought "Wiser Time" would have been a good song for the ABB to cover.
I always thought "Wiser Time" would have been a good song for the ABB to cover.
I always thought "Wiser Time" would have been a good song for the ABB to cover.
When I first heard that song, it sounded in the ABB vein to me....Aint Wastin Time No More.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
I'm curious if Marcus King might be involved - I certainly wondered if the As the Crow Flies run was serving as an audition of sorts for the inevitable Black Crowes reunion tour.
[Edited on 10/17/2019 by slothrop8]
I'm curious if Marcus King might be involved - I certainly wondered if the As the Crow Flies run was serving as an audition of sorts for the inevitable Black Crowes reunion tour.
I don't see that. King has his first solo album out in January and I'm guessing next year that will be his focus.
As The Crow Flies was a short tour, and just a side thing. A 30th anniversary Black Crowes tour likely will be a 6 month + commitment.
All that is needed to sell tickets is Chris Robinson's voice and The Black Crowes name.
I love blabbermouth as a music news source, but do all the band names always have to be in all caps? (First world problems...:P)
I'm curious if Marcus King might be involved - I certainly wondered if the As the Crow Flies run was serving as an audition of sorts for the inevitable Black Crowes reunion tour.
I don't see that. King has his first solo album out in January and I'm guessing next year that will be his focus.
As The Crow Flies was a short tour, and just a side thing. A 30th anniversary Black Crowes tour likely will be a 6 month + commitment.
As The Crow Flies was an awesome evening of music.
I don't care about all the $ bull. I've been jonesing for this for several years. Love the BC....forget all the crap and remember the tunes.....great stuff. Saddest thing is Weird Ed Harsch can't be involved his piano solo on Descending is in a word wonderful. A great talent sorely missed. Would like to see Gorman involved but he seems caught up in his own $ bull. Chris may be a douchebag but he has the most soulful voice in rock and roll. Other than TTB can't think of anybody I'd rather see live nowadays.
Would like to see Gorman involved but he seems caught up in his own $ bull.
Huh? The singer of the band you are in asks for you to give up your 1/3 interest so they can make almost all of the money and it's "his own $ bull"?
Agree with Ed's playing on Descending, just great.
,"They burned their bridge with Page too btw. "
I won't blow it for you. Gorman covers it in his book.....reading that part made my jaw hit the floor. (made Gorman's jaw drop too I would bet)
WOW....Just blew it for myself...… heard a podcast today where they talked about it briefly. Amazing....don't get it.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Recent Steve Gorman audio interview,
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
Would like to see Gorman involved but he seems caught up in his own $ bull.
Huh? The singer of the band you are in asks for you to give up your 1/3 interest so they can make almost all of the money and it's "his own $ bull"?
Agree with Ed's playing on Descending, just great.
gorman lost his 1/3rd in the early 00's
Recent Steve Gorman audio interview,
Thank You.
At they're best they Black Crowes are like Iggy Pop meets Humble Pie.
There isn't anything new they have to offer as a cover band, covering their own
tunes, hopefully they get better players than the ABB did during the Toler Neel incarnation.
They'd give Marcus a good career bump if he's one of the players.
Would like to see Gorman involved but he seems caught up in his own $ bull.
Huh? The singer of the band you are in asks for you to give up your 1/3 interest so they can make almost all of the money and it's "his own $ bull"?
Agree with Ed's playing on Descending, just great.
gorman lost his 1/3rd in the early 00's
And got it back in 05 when he came back after Bill Dobrow didn't work out as the drummer. They renegotiated after Steve came back.
Then was told he had to give it back up in 2014 for Chris to be willing to do the 25th anniversary tour. Chris wanted Steve's 1/3rd plus 9 percent more from Rich to give him 75 percent. That has been well documented when they split in 2014.
https://www.alternativenation.net/the-black-crowes-member-reveals-sad-reason-reunion-could-happen/
[Edited on 10/18/2019 by WarEagleRK]
Recent Steve Gorman audio interview,
If you can get past the host's interview style there are a lot of good interviews on his Let There Be Rock podcast. He has interviewed Steve, Marc and Rich from the Crowes over the years.
Recent Steve Gorman audio interview,
If you can get past the host's interview style there are a lot of good interviews on his Let There Be Rock podcast. He has interviewed Steve, Marc and Rich from the Crowes over the years.
Yeah ,I listened to it. The host was kind of annoying. Steve is a great interview.
Everyone has a plan, till you get punched in the face,
I'm curious if Marcus King might be involved - I certainly wondered if the As the Crow Flies run was serving as an audition of sorts for the inevitable Black Crowes reunion tour.
I don't see that. King has his first solo album out in January and I'm guessing next year that will be his focus.
As The Crow Flies was a short tour, and just a side thing. A 30th anniversary Black Crowes tour likely will be a 6 month + commitment.
Probably just a 1 year commitment though - and still an opportunity to to play solo/MKB shows between legs of any Crowes tour. The chance to put "former lead guitarist of the Black Crowes" on your publicity as you try to break into new markets with his own band for the rest of his career - and a 1 year payday probably exceeding anything he's made so far as he gets himself established.
There's some upside for someone like Marcus if the gig is offered to him. Not to say that it will be, but he would be surely tempted to make the logistics work if the opportunity arises.
My personal preference would be for Luther to return, but not sure how likely that might be. I'd obviously be very much on board with Marc Ford too, or Audley, or Paul Stacey. It'll be very interesting to see what they end up doing lineup wise.
Marcus is doing just fine on his own and that would not help make his career any bigger.
Not like Luther, Marc etc became household names.
Marcus should focus on Marcus at this stage.
Marcus is doing just fine on his own and that would not help make his career any bigger.
Not like Luther, Marc etc became household names.
Marcus should focus on Marcus at this stage.
I completely agree.
On a side note: i can never understand why the lead singer, lead guitarist, main songwriter, band leader of a band that already bears his own name needs to record a solo album.
,"They burned their bridge with Page too btw. "
I won't blow it for you. Gorman covers it in his book.....reading that part made my jaw hit the floor. (made Gorman's jaw drop too I would bet)
WOW....Just blew it for myself...… heard a podcast today where they talked about it briefly. Amazing....don't get it.
WOW, indeed. Just finished the book last night. Thanks for posting the podcast link. Will listen to that later today.
Having now finished the book, more generally I have to say that Rich really does come across generally as a jerk. Always thought or assumed Chris was the real d-bag, and Rich came across in interviews as far more reasonable. I wouldn't say the victim, because it takes 2 to tango for 25+ years of BS arguing, but in interviews with Rich it always seemed like Chris was the primadonna. But Steve Gorman's perspective really paints Rich in a poor light. I know it's only SG's perspective, but seems like a reasonable interpretation of what went down for all of those years. Huh....
Marcus is doing just fine on his own and that would not help make his career any bigger.
Not like Luther, Marc etc became household names.
Marcus should focus on Marcus at this stage.
I completely agree.
On a side note: i can never understand why the lead singer, lead guitarist, main songwriter, band leader of a band that already bears his own name needs to record a solo album.
LMAO
Very true.
Especially if it sounds like the other band anyway.
On a side note: i can never understand why the lead singer, lead guitarist, main songwriter, band leader of a band that already bears his own name needs to record a solo album.
Didn't Petty do the same thing with Full Moon Fever?
I love their music but from a business angle, they were always difficult to deal with. Always some story or angle to why something didn't happen.
When looking for them at a radio station for interviews, ticket give-a-way and record promos/station id stuff as they were hours late, their tour manager at the time says "All I know is that they left in a car with a big bag of pot on their way to the station.".
1st album and first time dealing with them. It did not improve over time and I stopped working things involving them. Just watched the shows which made their shows much better for me. LOL - No fun having contest winners staring at you looking for their tickets/backstage passes and telling them to look for the stoned guys who didn't show and get their tickets.
Individually they were all pretty good guys but there was always drama. From my meetings over the years, Chris was always the more out going and friendlier of the two brothers.
I'm curious if Marcus King might be involved - I certainly wondered if the As the Crow Flies run was serving as an audition of sorts for the inevitable Black Crowes reunion tour.
I don't see that. King has his first solo album out in January and I'm guessing next year that will be his focus.
As The Crow Flies was a short tour, and just a side thing. A 30th anniversary Black Crowes tour likely will be a 6 month + commitment.
Probably just a 1 year commitment though - and still an opportunity to to play solo/MKB shows between legs of any Crowes tour. The chance to put "former lead guitarist of the Black Crowes" on your publicity as you try to break into new markets with his own band for the rest of his career - and a 1 year payday probably exceeding anything he's made so far as he gets himself established.
There's some upside for someone like Marcus if the gig is offered to him. Not to say that it will be, but he would be surely tempted to make the logistics work if the opportunity arises.
My personal preference would be for Luther to return, but not sure how likely that might be. I'd obviously be very much on board with Marc Ford too, or Audley, or Paul Stacey. It'll be very interesting to see what they end up doing lineup wise.
It might be an upside for Marcus, but I don't think he is a fit for that music. The As The Crow Flies show I attended was good, but as talented as Marcus is, those songs don't really fit his playing.
Marcus is doing just fine on his own and that would not help make his career any bigger.
Not like Luther, Marc etc became household names.
Marcus should focus on Marcus at this stage.
I completely agree.
On a side note: i can never understand why the lead singer, lead guitarist, main songwriter, band leader of a band that already bears his own name needs to record a solo album.
Wanting to work with other musicians and maybe cowriters. If the Marcus King Band is truly a band, then it makes a little more sense.
On a side note: i can never understand why the lead singer, lead guitarist, main songwriter, band leader of a band that already bears his own name needs to record a solo album.
Didn't Petty do the same thing with Full Moon Fever?
Yeah, he used most of the Heartbreakers on his solo albums, but he also used people like George Harrison, Ringo & Jeff Lynne. The music doesn't sound that different, but the players were. I think Mike Campbell was the only Heartbreaker who played on all of Petty's "solo" stuff.
Much like Springsteen outside of the E-Street band. It sounds close to the same, but just different collaborative partners.
I disagree that playing for the Black crowes would not be an opportunity for Marcus.
He's not a household word. Is really getting just started in his career. It wouldn't be the end of the world, but it can sure open new doors for him.
you can read how he grew as a musician as a result of being part of as the crow flies.
Is not yet fully formed.
He will need to have a breakthrough of some sort if he wants to do more than the invited on the bills of bigger band
I personally don't care what he does with his life for the record.
I disagree that playing for the Black crowes would not be an opportunity for Marcus.
He's not a household word. Is really getting just started in his career. It wouldn't be the end of the world, but it can sure open new doors for him.you can read how he grew as a musician as a result of being part of as the crow flies.
Is not yet fully formed.
He will need to have a breakthrough of some sort if he wants to do more than the invited on the bills of bigger band
I personally don't care what he does with his life for the record.
Marcus has done well in a short period of time. Gets book at festivals with higher billing than many other the long time bands.
It will likely end up much like a Joe Bonamassa - Gary Moore thing. The inferior guy copies much from the other and ends up more popular. I think that may happen with Marcus and Warren if it hasn't already started.
