
No you're not.
I have been spoiled by the ABB. Don't like much rock.
Was always in to jazz and blues. Some fusion.
But I do like the Dead, the Band, old MTB, CSNY and some others.

ABBA
Could have something to do with an ex-neighbor in the condo complex I lived in playing them at top volume all hours of the night while on a nightly drunken bender but never got the appeal of there bland music.

Dave Matthews Band
Very talented band but can't stand Matthews' voice and it sounds like elevator music to me. But the women seem to love him.

Most of the bands named have at least one passable song......
or at least have a song........
but of course, then there is Phish.....

I don't know why, but I've never been more than a casual fan of Clapton, Zappa, the Dead and Springsteen. Just can't dig the Journey, Boston, Styx, REO genre...........Peace.......joe
Totally don't get the Dave Mathews thing.
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U2. By far. I think there must be some alien mind trick to make people think they’re good. I try to at least get where folk are coming from when I don’t care for the band. U2. Nope. It don’t make no sense.

U2. By far. I think there must be some alien mind trick to make people think they’re good. I try to at least get where folk are coming from when I don’t care for the band. U2. Nope. It don’t make no sense.
Agreed, Their guitar player, "The Edge" is the absolute master of two chord rock

Phish
Dave Matthews Band
I tried very hard to appreciate these two bands, but I just don't get it.

Journey & Foreigner were chick bands because of the lyrics so there's that.
Never liked:
Springsteen/E St.
Moody Blues
Pink Floyd
Queen
Too many to list of those I didn't try to like. I don't think you should have to work to "get" music. Always open to something new, but it has to be music not noise or whining for me.

I don't think you should have to work to "get" music. .
This was always my "issue" with "Deadheads"
Me: The Dead do nothing for me
DH: Have you seen them "live"?
Me: Yes, 70s. 80s & 90s
DH: Have you listened to this show?
Me: No
DH: I'll burn a copy for you
Me: No thanks
DH: Did you see Jerry solo?
Me: Yes, at the Keystone in Berkeley
DH; Did you like it?
Me: I left during the show
DH: Musta been an off night
Me: OK
DH: Dude, you gotta go see Ratdog

Off topic re rock bands, but on the question of "getting music" . . .Lately have been "working to get" John Coltrane's later work, Ascension, Om, very challenging, I don't "get it", but there are brief flashes of understanding. At first listenings it sounds like chaos.
Some of my favorite music I didn't get at first - I remember my first exposure to Hendrix, smashing my pop-programmed ears to dust. I didn't like it, but knew there was exploration and discovery calling, so I kept listening, "working to get it". Unlike Coltrane, which may take lifetimes to get, I got Hendrix.
Mountain Jam I didn't get at all when Eat a Peach came out - those sides made zero sense, didn't get played much, until I worked to get it and started hearing the musical conversation - that recording pretty much was Jamming 101 for me.
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Off topic re rock bands, but on the question of "getting music" . . .Lately have been "working to get" John Coltrane's later work, Ascension, Om, very challenging, I don't "get it", but there are brief flashes of understanding. At first listenings it sounds like chaos.
Some of my favorite music I didn't get at first - I remember my first exposure to Hendrix, smashing my pop-programmed ears to dust. I didn't like it, but knew there was exploration and discovery calling, so I kept listening, "working to get it". Unlike Coltrane, which may take lifetimes to get, I got Hendrix.Mountain Jam I didn't get at all when Eat a Peach came out - those sides made zero sense, didn't get played much, until I started hearing the musical conversation - that recording pretty much was Jamming 101 for me.
Interesting take. Music for me is similar to storytelling or better yet reading. It has very little to do with comprehension, only what appeals to your individual sense. You brought up "Mountain Jam" which I "got" immediately....I heard simple the wandering down a path, the joy of sitting in the woods and the attempt to find a different way out....They were weaving a tale, all on the same page, loved it. Other bands don't speak in the same tongue or tell their stories differently...It all boils down to what grabs you.... I still don't get Hendrix and have tried on numerous occasions to listen to Miles Davis and man, I just can't see it through his glasses.....

Yeah Miles, early no problem but again his later stuff, I have yet to pick up the thread, still trying. For some weird reason despite the audio assault Coltrane beckons. Re Mountain Jam, when Eat a Peach came out I was a little kid still spinning Beatles 45s. Man, once I got Mtn Jam - that was the record that gave me my jazz ears.

At first listenings it sounds like chaos.
There's a difference between "working to get" and "education." To me, education doesn't have to be formal, but it means you expect basic music elements like pitch, melody, and form. Add in personal taste based on what you've heard during your lifetime & you've formed a basis for why you like/dislike certain genres or bands. "Working to get" implies the music is flying in the face of your musical education & personal taste & you're going to be damned sure you understand it before you reject it. I don't want to work to reject Steven Tyler's vocals; life's too short.
Music is visceral & personal. It's also situational. If you're at your friend's wedding & their favorite song is something inane, you'll get up & dance because they're your friend.
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hahaha - gotta love this, egghead posts about Miles, Coltrane, Mtn Jam, a one word post "Kiss" appears. lol, man you just gotta put on those headphones and keep spinnin that Kiss until you UNDERSTAND.

For some weird reason despite the audio assault Coltrane beckons.
Here's a really great video that breaks down "Giant Steps". Not trying to change anyone's mind or tastes - I'm not always in the mood for Coltrane or a huge fan either - but helps to understand, or at least appreciate, just what Coltrane was doing.
And here is Coltrane's "circle of 5ths" which diagrams his changes, which might sound random but are almost mathematical.

Giant Steps is within reach, 1960, A Love Supreme, what '65, was still on our plane of existence. I was talking about his last couple years before he died, 66-67 starting with Ascension, then even further out -his music alienated his fans, it is extremely demanding . Folks were walking out of his shows in droves by then. You have to engage and actively listen.

Forgot the biggest mystery to me - Buffett.

And here is Coltrane's "circle of 5ths" which diagrams his changes, which might sound random but are almost mathematical.
Enlightening. Thanks.

Giant Steps is within reach, 1960, A Love Supreme, what '65, was still on our plane of existence. I was talking about his last couple years before he died, 66-67 starting with Ascension, then even further out -his music alienated his fans, it is extremely demanding . Folks were walking out of his shows in droves by then. You have to engage and actively listen.
It took me a while to "get" him, but now I love Coltrane. Coltrane's Sound, Giant Steps, A Love Supreme, among others from that era are staples. Live at the Vanguard is a great box set, but Chasin the Trane is beyond me.
His later stuff is still beyond me and I don't listen
The 1st Miles record I bought was Kind of Blue - as soon as I dropped the needle on it I went nuts over it. I love that era and the Quintet that followed. It took me longer to get into his fusion stuff - some I really like, some I dont.
Bird, Monk - loved immediately
Oddly enough, it took me a little while to fully get my favorite rock bands, except the Beatles. I liked the ABB AFE album when I bought it (especially Stormy Monday - part of my screen name), but it took a few listens to fully appreciate WP.
Same for the Dead - some tunes I liked right away (I Know You Rider - the rest of my screen name) but the longer jams took more time to get into. Same is true for Phish
Now I love pretty much everything by all of those bands, ESPECIALLY the long jams

ELO
Dave Mathews Band
Guns & Roses
Rush
Bon Jovi
Hair & Metal Bands

Forgot the biggest mystery to me - Buffett.
One of a small handful of shows I've walked out on before the show was anywhere near finished.

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I half agree with this. Many of my favorite songs entered my heart instantly.
I'll offer two "howevers":
1. Some songs that are instantly pleasing do not have staying power. Sometimes it is not the song's fault; the darned thing just gets overplayed. But sometimes the same catchiness that made it instantly appealing becomes cloying, or does not reward repeated listening.
2. Some of what become my favorite songs do take me a while to get used to. Sometimes the song is just far out or outside of my expectations. It could be that a band keeps changing (King Crimson, Miles Davis, Wilco) so it takes me a while to appreciate the new sound and not merely miss the old sound.
Sometimes the song has odd or dissonant qualities that just take a while to wrap your head around. I liken this to certain flavors, like broccoli rabe or hoppy IPAs; they might just be too bitter or too SOMETHING at first, but once you get the taste, you crave it.
Music, literature, food, movies, human beings - sometimes the strange stuff that takes some getting used to becomes your favorites.

Giant Steps is within reach, 1960, A Love Supreme, what '65, was still on our plane of existence. I was talking about his last couple years before he died, 66-67 starting with Ascension, then even further out -his music alienated his fans, it is extremely demanding . Folks were walking out of his shows in droves by then. You have to engage and actively listen.
It took me a while to "get" him, but now I love Coltrane. Coltrane's Sound, Giant Steps, A Love Supreme, among others from that era are staples. Live at the Vanguard is a great box set, but Chasin the Trane is beyond me.
His later stuff is still beyond me and I don't listenThe 1st Miles record I bought was Kind of Blue - as soon as I dropped the needle on it I went nuts over it. I love that era and the Quintet that followed. It took me longer to get into his fusion stuff - some I really like, some I dont.
Bird, Monk - loved immediately
Oddly enough, it took me a little while to fully get my favorite rock bands, except the Beatles. I liked the ABB AFE album when I bought it (especially Stormy Monday - part of my screen name), but it took a few listens to fully appreciate WP.
Same for the Dead - some tunes I liked right away (I Know You Rider - the rest of my screen name) but the longer jams took more time to get into. Same is true for Phish
Now I love pretty much everything by all of those bands, ESPECIALLY the long jams
Coltrane's first "Live at The Village Vanguard" which i heard when I was 13 changed my life and musical tastes forever. Agree with the progression of being out there. His later work with Pharoh Sanders sounded like birds ripping the flesh off each other.
Coltrane; then the Doors then ABB (which led me to the blues. had to be the only kid in my school who owned a Willie McTell record

Steely Dan is another one.
Onlt concert my sona and I walked out at the end and both shrugged

Forgot the biggest mystery to me - Buffett.
Quite simple. People like to drink and party too much. The man is a genius; parlayed one song into a billion dollar empire.

I absolutely don't get Phish
And yes, this ^ is what I hear

Forgot the biggest mystery to me - Buffett.
Quite simple. People like to drink and party too much. The man is a genius; parlayed one song into a billion dollar empire.
he has a few big well known tunes
cheeseburger in paradise
it's 5 o' clock somewhere
margaritaville
come monday (imo his best song)

ELP. Talented musicians but boring. Same way I feel about Clapton.

Bloody hell, i forgot to mention KISS. Good call Pops42! How could i have forgotten to mention them.
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