is another The Brothers show in NYC on the horizon?



https://q1057.com/the-allman-brothers-band-teasing-a-concert-in-new-york/
The Brothers MSG has its own Instagram account.
https://www.instagram.com/thebrothersmsg/

OOOOO my aching concert budget…..


The Brothers will salute the Allman Brothers Band on April 15th and 16th at Madison Square Garden in Manhattan.
- The Brothers will be Jaimoe, drums. Warren Haynes, guitar. Derek Trucks, guitar. Oteil Burbridge, bass guitar. Chuck Leavell piano. Reese Wynans, organ. Joe Russo, drums. Issac Eady, drums. Marc Quinones, percussion.
- Tickets will go on sale February 14th at 10 am.
- Pre-sale tickets from Live Nation go on sale February 12th at 10 am.
- Hey now let's all go. Let's all go back to where it all begins laughing and dancing with our friends.


NICE !

Sit up in the back, listen to the great music, watch the big screen and keep the $$$ reasonable.

Oteil has a Dead & Co shows at the Sphere the next 3 days (17 to 19).
I have not been to MSG. If I can't get floor seats, how are the sides for leg room. I'm 6 ft but went to see TTB at the Boston Garden in Sept '23 and seats on the side. I could maybe get a sheet a paper between my knees and the back of the seat in front of me.

🤙🎶good spotting that NYC show PorkchopBob
Cool to see many of the same musicians will be at Dickey’s show the 28th in Macon - so much love for the ABB, love it
also saw a Dickey tribute show Feb 17
”Joyland Live, A Sarasota Tribute To Dickey Betts” w/Les Dudek, Berry Duane Oakley, Mike Kach, Tyrone Vaughan, Garrett Dawson, RJ Howson
🍄what in the sound of music - any music - could ever top that pensive sublime soulful from the bottom of his heart playing as he quietly addresses his Nobody Knows solo
it’s my favorite 2-3 min of music ever
the whole band caught lightning in a bottle in that session
great to see The Brothers returning!!
I love the ABB

@stephen Berry Duane Oakley lists Dickey as one of a few men who have been like a father to him over the years.
Warren Haynes said Dickey would take him with him for interviews and make sure Warren got some discussion and picked Warren to be his guitar partner in the Allman Brothers in 1989 which Warren said is responsible for his career and success. Warren said Dickey is responsible for lots of doors opening for him.
I know as did Gregg, Dickey had his problems with booze and drugs and it hurt his career to an extent.
But Dickey made it to 80 and passed away in his beautiful multimillion dollar mansion in Sarasota. That wealth was well earned by his song writing, unique guitar style and tone and a good singing voice.
Dickey was a huge part of the success of the band and I'm so happy the musicians who are playing at his salute show have much love and respect for him.
Derek Trucks said Dickey Betts was a guitarist who wasn't afraid to face the sun!! ( Not sure what Derek means)

Robertdee, yeah Gregg said something similar about Duane at the HOF in 1995 - “he was the first to face the fire” (from memory)

@stephen Yes Gregg and Dickey both said that about Duane over the years. Gregg and Dickey both began to wonder if the band was going to break through after the first two albums failed to sell many copies.
Duane on the other hand was undeterred and up beat. Duane told Gregg all we have to do is make our next album a live release and get that fire we have live in front of an audience on a record and we'll be fine.
Sure enough At Fillmore East was very successful. It sold over 500,000 copies and earned a Gold Record then in the wake of Duane's death sold another 500,000 and earned a platinum record for sales over 1 million copies.
And both Gregg and Dickey in interviews years ago both stated they would like to think their ability as musicians and their song writing talent would be good enough that they would have had some kind of success if they had not been picked by Duane to be in his band but they both said it didn't happened that way. It was via tapping into the energy and determination of Duane Allman and Berry Oakley they met success.
BTW I remember Keith Richards years ago also wondering if he would be known if he hadn't found himself with the Rolling Stones.
I guess that is something a lot of wealthy musicians wonder about who made the big time as part of a band and not a solo artist. Where would I be today if I had not been in a successful band.
Duane Allman was like Jimi Hendrix or Eric Clapton. Duane had the midas touch. Duane was one of those talented people who also had a swagger and energy that assured they would be successful.
Can you imagine seeing Jimi Hendrix early in his career? Before he broke through. Almost everyone back then just knew Jimi was going to be big. He had too much happening not to make it.

Great post - Yeah he was somewhat known as a session guy w/Hey Jude, Games People Play, then later w/Layla
…but it was when the ABB formed that Duane became well known, albeit for so short a time
never could figure out why the 1st 2 albums became so popular when packaged together as Beginnings
glad they did, it brought new fans to those 1st 2 great albums - they had gotten more popular, & the essay that accompanied Beginnings was good
🎼🍄🎶🎸

@stephen After At Fillmore East and Eat A Peach sold over a million copies each Phil Walden/Capricorn Records could smell money to be made off the first two albums and they were correct.
I think if I remember correctly the Beginnings package was released in January of 1973 and it sold well. Over 600,000 in the USA earning a gold record.
Then Brothers and Sisters came out in August of 1973:and it was HUGE!!! Over 7 million copies, a top 10 single and Brothers and Sisters was number one on the Billboard top 200 best selling albums for FIVE WEEKS!!!
Unfortunately the Allman Brothers Band never had another album that big. It was the band's Hotel California.

Yes absolutely - the money rolled in unabated from July 1971-Aug 1973 & those 4 albums
….then rolled out same in 1979 when the financial bottom fell out of Capricorn Records, co$ting the 4 original guys & Duane’s & Berry’s estates in a large way
also along the way from 1971-73, Duane & Berry departed & that was the end of it
but yes, Win, Lose or Draw, Enlightened Rogues & Where It All Begins were the only ones afterward to gain official certified sales status (could be wrong) - when people saw WLorD wasn’t another Bros & Strs, sales fell off quickly
ABB forever

@stephen You are correct Stephen. After Brothers and Sisters (1973-7 million copies sold) the band surprisely never had another new release to sell more than a million copies and only Win, Loose or Draw (1975), Enlightened Rogues (1979) and Where It All Begins (1994) the only new album releases to go gold which is sales of 500,000 copies or more. Never had another million seller.
The band became as big as say The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, the Eagles etc but couldn't sustain it.
A Capricorn promotions man told me in the late 1970's that Gregg seemed to loose interest in the band and seemed irritated Brothers and Sisters sold so well and his brother didn't share in that. That it was Duane's band and not Dickey's who dominated Brothers and Sisters with four compositions, two lead vocals and all the guitar solos. He said Gregg just couldn't get into recording another ABB studio album even though Gregg did write two songs for Win, Loose or Draw. Phil Walden was determined to follow up Brothers and Sisters and put pressure on Gregg who eventually agreed to be on the album if he could record his parts in Los Angeles. The band had never recorded like that before and the Capricorn man told me only Chuck, Lamar and Jaimoe were really wanting to get Win, Loose or Draw finished so the album, he said, is uneven and not a good follow-up to the band's biggest seller.
I doubted he was accurate then but Gregg said in his book he didn't expect Brothers and Sisters to sell that well but was optimistic about Laid Back and Gregg felt his brother got cheated as the money was just rolling in and his brother was left out and it was Duane's band. Gregg said in his book he wasn't prepared for Brothers and Sisters to be such as huge hit. Apparently he indeed didn't like that it was.
But Dickey said in the 1990's that all of them when Duane was alive knew it was Duane's show. That it was Duane's band they were in.
After "Hitting The Note" 2003 failed to sell well Butch said they made their money playing live and he is opposed to spending the money ( apparently the band paid to record their last studio album) to record another studio album. Gregg later announced they would record another studio album and WITHOUT Butch Trucks if necessary. But as we know that never happened. " Hitting The Note" proved to be the last new studio album.
The Allman Brothers Band had several compilation releases to sell over 500,000 and go gold and in 1991 Polydor released " 1969-1979 A Decade Of Hits" which was tracks off the Capricorn albums which after the bankruptcy they controlled. And the release sold over 2 MILLION COPIES!!!!
Some how the band no longer made any money off of those Capricorn records. Gregg seem to think they were screwed over by Phil Walden and his contracts.
But the song writers/publishers of course got their royalties. Duane Allman wrote Little Martha and Willie McTell wrote Statesboro Blues etc so their estates made money AND many songs on the released were written by Gregg Allman and Dickey Betts. Whipping Post, Melissa, Ain't Waisting Time No More, Ramblin' Man, Jessica, Blue Sky etc etc.
Butch Trucks posted about this release on his blog in the 90's and Butch Trucks was very upset. Butch claimed Dickey Betts made over one million dollars off of this release and Butch Trucks MADE NOTHING!! ZERO!!
I have a hunch that is when the unhealthy riff between Butch and Dickey began to take root. And Butch posted he was going to now find ways where he can make money beyond touring as Dickey and Gregg do.
Then as you may remember everytime Butch came up with a festival or tour or a record label or streaming service etc, Dickey would vote against it and have Gregg or Jaimoe with him.
Dickey said in an interview" He was absolutely opposed to mixing Butch Trucks business ventures with Allman Brothers Band business".
Lots of bands have similar difficulties but Gregg said when Duane was alive all six of them were tight with each other and always on the same page with Duane leading the way.
Sorry for the long post but wanted to make some points I remember.

Posted by: @robertdeeSorry for the long post but wanted to make some points I remember.
Don’t be, you made some xclnt points
what’s the old saying - ‘there are sharks, shysters, shitheels, phonies of the most shameless type in business
’then there’s the music biz’
as you said, so many bands have experienced it to one degree or another
Tom Fogerty died w/he & John not on speaking terms b/c of it
then later on, John got sued for plagiarizing himself
the business side of music bro - bad news

@stephen I hear ya. Marshall Sehorn gets a cut everytime One Way Out sells on Eat A Peach or any other album and he didn't write anything. Elmore James had to give this suite a cut to get on his label. B. B. King shared his royalty in a similar way. Jules Taub is credited next to B. B. on several of B. B. King songs and he owned the record label B.B.was on early in his career. Taub didn't write anything as far as I know.
A song writing credit can produce income for that person for decades into the future.
Steve Alaimo paid Gregg Allman $500.00 for a credit on Melissa but didn't write a thing. Gregg was broke when he approached Steve. Then when Gregg had money and wanted to buy Alaimo out Steve Alaimo said no to $500.00 and wanted $10,000.00!!!!
I think Phil Walden paid it and now Melissa is credited to just Gregg.
My original copy of Eat A Peach has Melissa credited to Gregg Allman and Steve Alaimo.
One Way Out to Elmore James and Marshall Sehorn.
I don't know. Isn't that taking advantage of someone's talent?

Will these shows be "Dynamic Pricing"? I'm hoping for a cheaper single.

$311 all in for a ticket. Too rich for me.
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