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patmac
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Hi,

The version of Blue Sky on this album is one of my favorites. I just want to make sure I have this right....Dickey does the first solo, then Warren does the second?

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Posted : February 5, 2022 10:47 pm
robertdee
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You have it reversed. Warren does the first solo and switches to slide guitar well into it. Then Dickey does the second. 

Some of the solos switched after Duane died but Blue Sky always had Dickey going second even on the original studio version on Eat A Peach. They switched Statesboro Blues before Duane died with Dickey going first. Then during the five man band, Dickey played both solos then Dickey returned to the second position as is the version on At Fillmore East. 

Dickey was under the impression that except a couple of songs Berry Oakley was singing and Duane himself sang, Duane wanted Gregg to sing everything. But when Dickey brought Blue Sky to the band, Duane said " No you sing it. It's your song and about Blue Sky (Dickey's then Indian wife) so you sing this one." 

Here is how they did it when Warren and Dickey were the lead players. 

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Posted : February 5, 2022 10:59 pm
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patmac
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@robertdee Wow, thanks for the vid link. Pretty funny, Warren fumbling for his slide...got it out just in time. 

 
Posted : February 6, 2022 11:38 am
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Posted by: @robertdee

You have it reversed. Warren does the first solo and switches to slide guitar well into it. Then Dickey does the second. 

Some of the solos switched after Duane died but Blue Sky always had Dickey going second even on the original studio version on Eat A Peach. They switched Statesboro Blues before Duane died with Dickey going first. Then during the five man band, Dickey played both solos then Dickey returned to the second position as is the version on At Fillmore East. 

Dickey was under the impression that except a couple of songs Berry Oakley was singing and Duane himself sang, Duane wanted Gregg to sing everything. But when Dickey brought Blue Sky to the band, Duane said " No you sing it. It's your song and about Blue Sky (Dickey's then Indian wife) so you sing this one." 

Here is how they did it when Warren and Dickey were the lead players. 

I could be totally wrong on this , but the version on the video I think is different than the CD take. I need to go back and check. Its been years since I watched it.

I agree with patmac. This is my favorite rendition of Blue Sky. I have talked about this before Warrens solo and Dickeys rhythm work behind him.

Once I have some time today or soon, I will break down some parts of Warrens slide playing and point out a few things.

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Posted : February 7, 2022 8:36 am
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@jszfunk Oh yes this Great Woods video clip is different than the Evening With First Set 1992 album release. I've never found a video of the First Set version of Blue Sky. I was simply trying to show in video that Warren solos first and Dickey second. 

On the album Warren's solo is not all slide. You can tell if you listen closely when he holds a note then puts his slide on. 

 

Here is a Blue Sky from the same set of shows I like better. Warren picked this one for the live archive release. 

  

1991 in Germany is a good one too. 

 

The best Blue Sky live to me. 

 

This one with Jack is also good. Interestingly like Duane Allman, Jack apparently didn't play slide on Blue Sky. Jaimoe told Gregg and Gregg repeated it and it's Jack was the closest to Duane Allman on slide than any of the replacement slide players. 

Jack Pearson clearly is as good on slide as Warren and Derek, but thankfully he has a different style. I don't like it when guitar players sound too much alike. 

 

 

As far as playing the old songs such as Statesboro Blues or Must Have Did Someone Wrong or Don't Keep Me Wondering, nobody tops Duane Allman on slide. 

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Posted : February 7, 2022 9:19 am
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 /p>

Finally got time to sit down and go through this like I mentioned. I have talked about this piece on the old  "blue" many o' times.  It would be hard to pick or say what is one of Warrens best slide solo's. Too many I am sure. The stuff he pulls off on this ,really cant put into words. Just listen. His whole solo is great, but the slide work....

He kicks into the slide at 3:15 mark

Really starts to drive  and dig in at 4:15

Dickey pops in with a very nice melodic chord rhythm progression 4:23-4:25.

Warren really "Hit's The Note" with his slide at 4:55-4:59.  That little run and burst is pure bliss for me. Not sure how many times I had that cranked to 11 on the old Kenwood stereo!!!

There is something to be said about WH playing  in his early years with the ABB. I'll give another example in a few. Not that he mailed it in later on down the road by any means. I just look at it during his early tenure that he is  as a young up and coming,talented , hungry, finding his way,exploring this music,show casing his skills, guitarist with a fire in his belly and the newness to it all. Being fresh and innovative.  I always related to Warrens slide work a little more. Its just what my ears like.

 

Another example below. Warren's  slide works starts at 4:28 and to borrow a term from a DP song, he really starts to "Wring That Neck" between 6:30-7:56. Sounds like its going to blow up. Uncanny....

Along the lines of guitar greatness.....

I wish I had  an audio clip or video of it, but I don't. I think it was 1995 or 1996,leaning towards 95'. My then wife and I went to see them that summer here in Noblesville.  We had great seats, as you could get them fairly  back in the day. Maybe 10 rows center.  It was toward the end of the show and they were on the outro of an extended jam.  Dickey just started going off and in a zone I will never forget. He was front and center on the stage eyes closed intensely  and  "just out there" away from the band in a jazz sense circling around the band. Playing away from them weaving back in and out coming back in to end the song.  I am not sure anyone else around me was getting it, but I think that is the first and might be the last time I was totally flabbergasted by a piece of guitar work. I am pretty sure my mouth was wide open. I remember thinking , what did I just hear, what was he doing?!?!? I know  myself and others have seen some pretty spectacular work come from this band, but that is my standout moment I will never forget. Pure master guitar work. I get chills thinking about. I know we all have our fav era of this band.None being better than the other, just different incarnations. I love them all , but the Betts/Haynes will always be mine. I miss it.

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Posted : February 19, 2022 11:21 am
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@jszfunk After deciding to put the band on the shelf in 1982 because of changes in music away from blues, Arista records and no longer wanting to continue with what Butch said was embarrassing to their legacy.... the Warren/Allen lineup and a shift back to blues based music being popular again gave the guys a chance to "right the ship" so to speak and man they did. 

I saw them in 1989 on the Dreams box set tour and it was a joy. They had found their mojo again. Felt like 1971 again. 

Warren said they just kept getting better and better and by 1991 and 92 the ABB was back to Fillmore East form. He made those remarks when promoting the album you linked above. It was about 2014 wasn't it when Play All Night came out? Warren took all the tapes Tom Dowd had recorded and selected alternative hot versions that did not appear on An Evening With First Set except Revival. 

It is an archival release but sold better than both of their last "New Release" live albums. Peakin' at the Beacon (2000) and One Way Out (2004). One Way Out was their last new album. 

 
Posted : February 22, 2022 7:02 am
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Posted by: @robertdee

@jszfunk After deciding to put the band on the shelf in 1982 because of changes in music away from blues, Arista records and no longer wanting to continue with what Butch said was embarrassing to their legacy.... the Warren/Allen lineup and a shift back to blues based music being popular again gave the guys a chance to "right the ship" so to speak and man they did. 

I saw them in 1989 on the Dreams box set tour and it was a joy. They had found their mojo again. Felt like 1971 again. 

Warren said they just kept getting better and better and by 1991 and 92 the ABB was back to Fillmore East form. He made those remarks when promoting the album you linked above. It was about 2014 wasn't it when Play All Night came out? Warren took all the tapes Tom Dowd had recorded and selected alternative hot versions that did not appear on An Evening With First Set except Revival. 

It is an archival release but sold better than both of their last "New Release" live albums. Peakin' at the Beacon (2000) and One Way Out (2004). One Way Out was their last new album. 

I always liked Peakin'. I think alot of it has to do with the track listing. Not the usual suspects.

 

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Posted : February 22, 2022 8:56 am
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@jszfunk Yes I like Peakin' too. It was sold fewer copies than any new ABB album. About 25,000. And it may have been soundboard. Produced by the ABB and Bud Snyder. 

Stand back smokes on the album. Dickey and Derek Trucks playing pedal to the floor. 

Nice Seven Turns with Marc singing backup. 

Derek Trucks said Fillmore East was such a huge influence on him growing up that it was a blast getting to play those old songs with Dickey. 

Derek said he thought Dickey played his a** off on that record but knew several of the originals were not getting along and there was tension but he never expected them to vote Dickey off the stage. A huge move. Like the Stones voting Keith Richards out. 

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Posted : February 22, 2022 9:40 am
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@jszfunk Warren's solo on Dreams from the album you linked is fantastic. Dickey's solo is real fine too. The drums are right in the pocket. 

 
Posted : February 22, 2022 7:11 pm
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