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Allman Brothers Band Manley Field House Syracuse University April 7 2CD Set

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I saw a couple of the five man band shows in 1972 and they were hot and well played as I remember. 

 

 
Posted : December 6, 2023 7:57 pm
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Nice to get an official release of this one (conflicting dates as usual), this unofficial copy sounds great, I play it often. All there except the last 2 songs.

 
Posted : December 7, 2023 11:04 am
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odd that the second 6-man band is also on the cover - mayb a Chuck-Lamar bonus cut…..BO is h e a v y in the mix😁🎼🤙🎶😁

 
Posted : December 7, 2023 6:53 pm
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I second that BO is heavy in the mix. He dominates One Way Out.

 
Posted : December 7, 2023 9:36 pm
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 I like the cover design of the official release but not the use

of the latter-day logo. But that's just me. And Berry wearing 

boots?!

 
Posted : December 9, 2023 2:50 pm
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glad we are getting some post duane releases 

 
Posted : December 10, 2023 1:37 am
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@robertdee previous archive title from Macon City Aud in Feb '72 is outstanding...eager to see how this compares...

 
Posted : December 10, 2023 2:52 pm
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@darylm Logo is classy and easily recognizable Screaming

 
Posted : December 10, 2023 2:54 pm
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@dovetail I saw the five man band in February 1972 at Winston Salem, NC. 

They were really good. Dickey really stepped up and was not only playing surprisingly good slide but his leads were hot all night. Eat A Peach was a week away from being released so I had not heard Dickey play slide and apparently didn't know he could. I remember wondering when I read they were finishing their latest album and would tour as a five man band, what were they going to do about slide guitar. 

A few things stand out I still remember. 

The band members despite playing surprisingly well never smiled and said very little to the audience. 

After Statesboro Blues with TWO Dickey slide solos, Must Have Did Someone Wrong with a Gregg electric piano solo where Ace and Dickey played and a slide solo from Dickey where Duane played, just before Dickey put away his slide and changed guitars, they did Ain't Waisting Time No More with Dickey still on slide and Gregg finally spoke and said " This is from our new Warner Brothers release which will be in your hands next week Eat A Peach" And Gregg counted it off. ( I thought they had left Capricorn and I bought Eat A Peach the next week and it was still Capricorn and it was the first time I saw their second and as far as I know, last logo. I'm thinking Warner Brothers??? Then on the fine print was Dist. By Warner Brothers Records. They had changed distribution from Atlantic to Warner Brothers). 

Next song was One Way Out with NO slide guitar. 

A few songs later Dickey kicked off the next song and I instantly noticed Dickey was playing the intro to One Way Out and wondered if they were playing it again and suddenly Berry Oakley began playing the intro to You Don't Love Me and rushed over and stood right in front of Dickey face to face and Dickey realized his mistake and switched over to the familiar intro to You Don't Love Me. After the song Dickey played some bluesy western swing with the band backing him and that jam continued for some time until Dickey began slowing it down and he began to get spacey and after playing some very off the wall guitar parts it shifted into some very strange passages which eventually became an up tempo bass guitar driven instrumental.

When I bought Eat A Peach the next week, there it was with the strange intro. It was a Dickey song called Les Brer in A Minor. 

In the 2000's Butch said on his blog he and Gregg were in the next room when Dickey was working on it and Butch said a couple of times he and Gregg suggested some things to Dickey and Butch said he even suggested the title which was broken French for ONE LESS BROTHER. 

Butch said they told Dickey they had heard that before and Dickey got paranoid that he was putting together an instrumental based on a riff and melody from another person's song.  

Later one of the roadies found the melody on one of their board cassette recordings of a live show and Dickey was playing it during his Whipping Post solo but Dickey didn't remember that. Dickey said he had the melody in his head but had forgotten he began sticking it in his Whipping Post solo before Duane died. 

Butch was always going negative about Dickey after 2000 and on this post on his blog he didn't. 

 
Posted : December 10, 2023 4:06 pm
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Posted by: @robertdee

Butch said he even suggested the title which was broken French for ONE LESS BROTHER. 

Not exactly. "Les Brers" is a combinations of French plural "The" and broken southern English plural (as in Br'er Rabbit) "Brothers". That's why Butch named his band "The Brothers" or Les Brers, not "Less Brothers". Maybe Butch thought there was a subtle double meaning for "fewer brothers", but knowing basic French he would know it's plural.

 

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Posted : December 11, 2023 10:29 am
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@porkchopbob Tres bien, br'er Porkchop! 😉

 
Posted : December 11, 2023 12:00 pm
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@wayne may I ask what the conflict of dates is?

 
Posted : December 11, 2023 1:19 pm
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@dovetail Official date from ABB is April 7 where as on the bootleg copy it is April 4 (they never seem to have the right date), that is all I meant. Great show, I know my bootleg is soundboard so the official release should sound even better!

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Posted : December 11, 2023 1:31 pm
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@porkchopbob I know very little French. I think I miss spoke. Rather than "one less brother" Butch wrote it means "less brothers".  Apparently Butch wasn't entirely correct. He didn't mention " in A Minor". That is officially part of the title. I'm not sure how polished Butch's French was but he and his wife owned a place in southern France for several years. 

Anyhow until I read that post from Butch years ago, about 2004, I had no idea he and Gregg had suggested some ideas to Dickey for the song. But ONLY Dickey got the writing credit. And in 1972, Eat A Peach sold over 1 million copies. But albums were a lot cheaper to buy then nevertheless the song probably was a tidy sum for Dickey's bank account. And Dickey had Blue Sky on Eat A Peach too. 

On Eat A Peach the naming of Dickey's instrumental, suggesting Mountain Jam be on it (Butch said it's the worst Mountain Jam they played with Duane but it was the only one with album quality fidelity they had) and pressing Phil Walden to shorten the name to "Eat A Peach", and insisting Jaimoe be the time keeper on Stand Back because Butch felt Jaimoe's style was perfect for the song, were the big contributions Butch said he contributed to Eat A Peach. 

I really like the Mountain Jam on Eat A Peach. What about you Porkchopbob or anyone else? 

Jaimoe keeping time on Stand back and to me, Jaimoe's playing here is superb!! 

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Posted : December 11, 2023 1:56 pm
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@porkchopbob I know very little French. I think I miss spoke. Rather than "one less brother" Butch wrote it means "less brothers".  Apparently Butch wasn't entirely correct.

I actually found the quote, it's from @alpaul 's One Way Out.

It's curious because Butch would certainly know the meaning of "Les Brers", and not just because he was an American southerner with a house in France. Maybe he was just speaking to a metaphorical double meaning or perhaps the tape was misinterpreted and he said "Les Brothers". Typically "Les" is pronounced like "lay" unless there is a vowel on the next word like "les yeux" and the "s" on "les" become audible.

Butch was a sharp guy, I doubt he would think the play is called "Fewer Miserables"

 

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Posted : December 11, 2023 2:39 pm
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When I was in high school, I knew a girl that would jokingly refer to a Les Paul guitar as a "Lay Paul".  (I don't remember her name, but I'll never forget that.) 

And no, my name isn't Paul.

 
Posted : December 11, 2023 5:11 pm
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I actually found the quote, it's from@alpaul'sOne Way Out

yeah...  butch said this to me on on more than one occasion and I just printed it, but in all honesty if I could go back and have a redo, I'd have challenged him and discussed it a bit further Brothers in French is Frères... I really don't think brers means anything... I don't know where Dickey came up with the title and regret never asking him. 

 
Posted : December 11, 2023 6:54 pm
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Posted : December 11, 2023 7:30 pm
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Someone used to post here by that name (BrerRabbit)

it’s unlike any of their other instrumentals (Les Brers in A Minor)

but yes the soundboard of the Syracuse show is real good - my copy says 4/7/72

 
Posted : December 11, 2023 7:54 pm
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@alpaul Hi Alan. I remember Butch writing on the blog he used to communicate with fans ( and he was the only member who did) that he (Butch) came up with title. 

Perhaps Dickey would know if Butch did name that song but asking him may be hard to arrange. 

I got to chat with Dickey in 1986 at a small club in North Carolina where Dickey and Gregg were playing together. They were very irritated with the club owner for promoting the show as "The Allman Brothers Band". 

Anyway I asked Dickey several questions and that night he was in the mood to answer some. I asked him who is singing the backing vocals on Revival on Idlewild South " People can you feel it love is everywhere". I pointed out that credit is left off the album. It only says Berry Oakley on Hoochie Coochie Man and all other vocals by Gregg Allman. 

Dickey said " I know it doesn't sound like it but that is everybody in the band". I was surprised and said " You mean even Butch Trucks and Jaimoe"? And he said yes it's all six of us and Dickey remembered they were also clapping their hands. 

 
Posted : December 11, 2023 10:46 pm
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@porkchopbob Thank you for digging and coming up with the info. I remember Butch from his blog about 2005 explaining that and claiming he named the track and saying it is bad or broken French for less brothers. 

But Alan Paul apparently thinks Dickey came up with the name. 

All I recall from Dickey is he said when he showed what he had ( Les Brer) to the band, they said they had heard the riff before. Dickey said he was worried he was using a melody from someone's song unawares. Then it was discovered being played during Dickey's solo on Whipping Post on a live sound board tape. It was a melody Dickey invented he began throwing into to his Whipping Post solo and later he had it in his mind and decided to make an instrumental out of it. 

The guys have faulty memories at times. I remember Dickey being asked who plays the second guitar solo on Liz Reed from Fillmore East and Dickey said that was him and Duane played the first one. That is backwards. Dickey also answered he wrote Blue Sky in 1974 in Berry Oakley's kitchen in an interview. It was recorded in 1971 with Duane and Berry. 

Gregg was asked when did he meet Derek Trucks and he said it was in Miami when they were there recording Enlighten Rogues. The guy conducting the interview said " I don't understand. That album was recorded in 1979 the year Derek was born". Gregg said " Well I can't be right, I'll have to think about that and get back with you". 

So they can be confused. Not sure about Butch. 

 
Posted : December 11, 2023 11:08 pm
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@alpaul "Brer" is broken southern English for "brother", like Br'er Rabbit. I thought I read Dickey felt the song had a Cajun vibe and that's why he used "Brer" in the title (but I could be misremembering that...)

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Posted : December 12, 2023 11:02 am
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@porkchopbob So Butch did not name the song? Maybe he suggested something along those lines to Dickey. 

Not sure why Butch would say around 2005 he named the song. 

I think Dickey was the greatest composer of instrumentals in rock. 

 

 
Posted : December 12, 2023 12:02 pm
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@robertdee Yep. I've spent decades unwinding the mistakes and trying no to repeat them... but I certainly am not perfect.

 
Posted : December 12, 2023 2:10 pm
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@alpaul Alan. Gregg riding as a hitchhiker from LA to Jacksonville with a bass player when Duane was putting the band together is suspect too isn't it? Smile

Others had said they remember Gregg taking an airliner in March of 1969. 

 
Posted : December 12, 2023 3:24 pm
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Forget who said what when, and who named what.  The big headline here is we get something other than the standard set. We get a unique one off JAM, the Syracuse Jam!!

 
Posted : December 12, 2023 5:40 pm
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@robertdee Covered this extensively in One Way Out. The "Melissa" story is also absurd for a lot of reasons... no one really seemed to pick up on it, but I broke that down in Brothers and Sisters.

 
Posted : December 13, 2023 11:01 am
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@alpaul I bought both books Alan. Both are excellent. 

Maybe the drugs and booze caused vivid dreams while sleeping and our hero musicians later thought it was reality:)

 
Posted : December 13, 2023 11:04 am
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@robertdee These guys all packed more living over the decades than most people even dream of. The fog of time clouds even the sharpest memories and legends are much more fun to recount that realities.

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Posted : December 13, 2023 12:02 pm
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