That they did -- you should check the trade section for 3/19/71 (sometimes dated 3/20/71 -- 1st gig after the AFE gigs :cool:) -- & most definitely, 9/16/71 --
on a separate note, the recently-uncovered 7/9/70 Stonybrook show is all-the equal of those 2 -- certainly other Warehouse shows too I'd guess

[Edited on 4/3/2017 by Stephen]

Unless Gregg changes his mind, I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting. He was not in favor when the timing was right and I can't imagine he feels any different now. Why he would want to limit income and keep Duane's shows away from the fans has always been beyond my grasp. Definitely sales that the original members and their estates could have used especially people like Butch with cash problems.

I can't buy it when I am dead so I hope that common sense prevails one day.

I understand not wanting to oversaturate the market with shows that traders have already had for years. Those Warehouse shows are each pretty amazing and unique, but I've never heard anything that is sonically sound enough to be commercially released (maybe the 3/71 Warehouse show, worth it for them playing their "biggest hit" - always cracks me up). But they are out there for free if you want them.

Stephen- when you say "they did" record those warehouse shows - do you mean professionally or do you just mean the remastered boot that's out there?

I understand not wanting to oversaturate the market with shows that traders have already had for years. Those Warehouse shows are each pretty amazing and unique, but I've never heard anything that is sonically sound enough to be commercially released (maybe the 3/71 Warehouse show, worth it for them playing their "biggest hit" - always cracks me up). But they are out there for free if you want them.

Valid points. But the industry has completely changed so things like oversaturation are not really an issue. With downloading possibilities, they don't even need to produce any sort of packaging or physical CD/album. No different than what Govt Mule does and have been very successful with.

Also traders account for a tiny percentage of fans/consumers and they will pass or buy it if quality is improved. I have had people tell me about shows available on Spotify and they are shocked that they exist. They are the Archive shows. Very little marketing was put behind those releases so many people never heard of them.

There are shows in the vault that are not traded and masters of soundboards to improve upon those that are traded.

Considering the cost of making them available vs the potential sales, it is silly to bury them IMO.

I always say this about any band who has unreleased archives. This is their last opportunity to make decent money on any physical release. Physical media is disappearing, even downloads are going away and streaming hardly pays anything. If people are going to make any money on archives, the time to strike was probably 5 years ago, but they need to do it ASAP.

Valid points. But the industry has completely changed so things like oversaturation are not really an issue. With downloading possibilities, they don't even need to produce any sort of packaging or physical CD/album. No different than what Govt Mule does and have been very successful with.

Well, I was speaking more from an artist's perspective - The Allman Brothers are pretty judicious about the shows they choose to release, and I can respect that. I understand not wanting to release every show commercially and dilute what represents you. We've gotten a number of archival shows released in the past decade or so, but if there are more worthwhile, quality recordings in the vault, which we've all heard rumors of, I'll be in that line.

There are lots of live albums and shows the ABB have released from the first 6 years of the band. Only compared to some extreme artists (who recorded and released mountains of material like the Dead) would the ABB be considered under represented.

Not sure that you can dilute what is over. It only adds to the collection and appeals to those that just want more Duane. Their Live legacy will always begin and end with Fillmore. Everything else is just gravy.

I would let the consumer make that choice for themselves. Again the vast majority of fans are not traders and don't know some of these treasures even exist.

Not sure that you can dilute what is over. It only adds to the collection and appeals to those that just want more Duane. Their Live legacy will always begin and end with Fillmore. Everything else is just gravy.

I would let the consumer make that choice for themselves. Again the vast majority of fans are not traders and don't know some of these treasures even exist.

I agree that there is little left to dilute. But releasing any new arhcival material may require some agreement between the surviving members (original or any of the subsequent versions of the band). It would also require some business acument and common sense, so I see little hope of anything more than re-releases of the same old stuff.

Not sure that you can dilute what is over. It only adds to the collection and appeals to those that just want more Duane. Their Live legacy will always begin and end with Fillmore. Everything else is just gravy.

I would let the consumer make that choice for themselves. Again the vast majority of fans are not traders and don't know some of these treasures even exist.

I agree that there is little left to dilute. But releasing any new arhcival material may require some agreement between the surviving members (original or any of the subsequent versions of the band). It would also require some business acument and common sense, so I see little hope of anything more than re-releases of the same old stuff.

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Not sure that you can dilute what is over. It only adds to the collection and appeals to those that just want more Duane. Their Live legacy will always begin and end with Fillmore. Everything else is just gravy.

I would let the consumer make that choice for themselves. Again the vast majority of fans are not traders and don't know some of these treasures even exist.

I agree that there is little left to dilute. But releasing any new arhcival material may require some agreement between the surviving members (original or any of the subsequent versions of the band). It would also require some business acument and common sense, so I see little hope of anything more than re-releases of the same old stuff.

It depends on who owns it and how the contracts are worded. I don't think the ABB owns any of their older recordings. They might get consulted on it and their opinion might be valued, not fully knowing how everything goes, but I'm guessing who ever owns their masters could release whatever they have without much fight. I'd say a lot of these deluxe editions that have come out of the early albums were just Mercury saying "we've got it, put it out" without much band involvement.

So if I can get my hands on these Stony Brook reels then they could eventually be an official release?? Hmmmmm......

"It depends on who owns it and how the contracts are worded. I don't think the ABB owns any of their older recordings. They might get consulted on it and their opinion might be valued, not fully knowing how everything goes, but I'm guessing who ever owns their masters could release whatever they have without much fight. I'd say a lot of these deluxe editions that have come out of the early albums were just Mercury saying "we've got it, put it out" without much band involvement."

Even if the band doesn't own the recordings or their are multiple ownership issues, at this point all and any parties involved better wake up to the fact that the value of these potential releases are not increasing with every passing year that the band is not touring and processed pop replaces mainstream interest in rock and musical heritage period let alone the ABB. Also, at this point, is the release of a bootleg quality recording really going to hurt sales of other releases at this point? I have to believe the people like me who buy these already own multiple copies of LAFE and anyone who doesn't isn't going to a boot anyway, they'll buy the album quality releas.

It seems to me they would be better off releasing what they can while they can still make a buck because starting in about 98, I didn't see a whole lot of high schoolers at ABB shows and by the end I was hard pressed to find anyone younger than mid 30s. And it's not like the GD where there is a large catalogue or variety to differentiate releases. The more time that goes by the less people you are going to find interested in purchasing another's set of the same songs.

If these people can't work out a deal or find a way to release these archival recordings soon they are going to blow the only chance they have to make money off of them. Real smart.

Not sure that you can dilute what is over. It only adds to the collection and appeals to those that just want more Duane. Their Live legacy will always begin and end with Fillmore. Everything else is just gravy.

I would let the consumer make that choice for themselves. Again the vast majority of fans are not traders and don't know some of these treasures even exist.

I agree that there is little left to dilute. But releasing any new arhcival material may require some agreement between the surviving members (original or any of the subsequent versions of the band). It would also require some business acument and common sense, so I see little hope of anything more than re-releases of the same old stuff.

It depends on who owns it and how the contracts are worded. I don't think the ABB owns any of their older recordings. They might get consulted on it and their opinion might be valued, not fully knowing how everything goes, but I'm guessing who ever owns their masters could release whatever they have without much fight. I'd say a lot of these deluxe editions that have come out of the early albums were just Mercury saying "we've got it, put it out" without much band involvement.

Studio and official live recording - yes. But they own what is in the vaults and can do as they please. It was Gregg that was dead set against anymore Archive stuff. Gregg was also not a fan of letting people record shows.

Axe an is 100% correct. What are they waiting for? Each day fewer people are wanting to hear their music. Dilute what market? I believe the reason for not letting shows out is fighting between a couple of band members and former band member. It is dumb not get what you have left out to people willing to pay while the chance is still there.

Axe an is 100% correct. What are they waiting for? Each day fewer people are wanting to hear their music. Dilute what market? I believe the reason for not letting shows out is fighting between a couple of band members and former band member. It is dumb not get what you have left out to people willing to pay while the chance is still there.

It has nothing to do with Dickey. Please don't put the blame on that man.

I believe I saw an interview with Gregg where he said some of the old recordings and performances made him feel embarrassed because of imperfections. I wish someone would explain to him that A) there are 10 years worth of instant live recordings and decades of bootlegs out there with plenty of imperfections from every era and guess what? You are still a Hall Of Famer, one of the most enduring and respected musicians of your generation and nobody thinks twice about the fact your human and make mistakes, B) the people buying these things are hardcores who have heard all your mistakes before and still want to pay you to hear more. What could be a better complement than that?