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  posted on 8/31/2003 at 07:25 PM
Don't care what band it is, I hate 'em ....

always stop the momentum of a concert right in its tracks .....

same goes for any solo actually ...... Let THE BAND play !!

I don't care for special guests either ....

Yea, I said it ....

 

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  posted on 8/31/2003 at 07:45 PM
I kind of agree with you....but whenever I get a good sounding copy of Gov't Mule's 7/4/03 Des Moines show, I'll send it to you. Matt Abts plays the greatest drum solo ever (well, the greatest I've ever heard....heh). It's a good one

 

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  posted on 8/31/2003 at 07:46 PM
.........and Marc kinda kicked my ass on 3/22 ......

but I ain't changin' my mind !!!!!

 

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  posted on 8/31/2003 at 08:11 PM
Im with ya on that Dino! Im a huge Dead fan, and I HATE drumz!!!

Drum solo live = bathroom break

drum solo on cd = hit the -> button

 

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  posted on 8/31/2003 at 10:21 PM
LMFAO !!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 8/31/2003 at 11:44 PM
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Im with ya on that Dino! Im a huge Dead fan, and I HATE drumz!!!

Drum solo live = bathroom break

drum solo on cd = hit the -> button

I love the dead, Drumz is good
but the best is space.

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 12:54 AM
The truth is there is only so many variations of beating on stuff. At bigger shows it always ends up just sounding like everyone is just pounding away. I love drums but solos have been done to death. I would prefer shorter drum breaks in songs and jams. Let them solo like other musicians. That is the way it began in jazz way back.
 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 07:45 AM
I'm shocked!

Seriously though, yesterday I was listening to a bunch of different stuff and my friend and I were talking about this. I like the solos as long as it has a little bass or something going on there with it. A little interaction instead of just a long percussion solo all by itself.
I do like Count M'Butu/Yonrico Scott combination, because there is some interaction going on it is more exciting.

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 09:00 AM
Funny, my wife and I were just talking about this a few days ago...

...and my (usual) random thoughts are....

Nothing is quite as disappointing to me as being at an ABB show and sitting thru a drum solo and looking at my watch and seeeing that it's been going on for what seems like forever and it's now something like 10:45Pm and it means I'm gonna have to hear a Revival encore itstead of Whipping Post...

...on the average, I think about 66.6% shorter drum solos from the ABB would be better - it seems they go thru it once, wind down a bit, start again, wind down a bit again, then finish up with that "third" part - the first third is all I really need to hear (plus the whole drum thing is followed by Oteil's slow extended thing, but my opinion on that is a different topic...)

Know what, I thoroughly enjoy Yonrico Scott's drum solos - very interesting and just the right length for my ears!

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 09:00 AM
Funny, my wife and I were just talking about this a few days ago...

...and my (usual) random thoughts are....

Nothing is quite as disappointing to me as being at an ABB show and sitting thru a drum solo and looking at my watch and seeeing that it's been going on for what seems like forever and it's now something like 10:45Pm and it means I'm gonna have to hear a Revival encore itstead of Whipping Post...

...on the average, I think about 66.6% shorter drum solos from the ABB would be better - it seems they go thru it once, wind down a bit, start again, wind down a bit again, then finish up with that "third" part - the first third is all I really need to hear (plus the whole drum thing is followed by Oteil's slow extended thing, but my opinion on that is a different topic...)

Know what, I thoroughly enjoy Yonrico Scott's drum solos - very interesting and just the right length for my ears!

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 09:16 AM
Nothing grinds an asswhooping show to a quicker halt than a twenty five minute percussion solo.Nothing,except maybe a ten minute bass exploration.

I'd take two or three more tunes instead.

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 09:29 AM
The only part of the Darien 2002 show that my wife didn't like was the 30 minute drum solo.

This year, the only drum solo was from Karl Denson's band. Unfortunately, Pattie stayed home this year.

The solo in Toronto was much shorter, and more enjoyable. I've been a huge Dead fan for years, and nothing slowed a show to a stop better than two guys playing "Space Cymbals for Acid Orchestra, Movements I through XXV."

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 09:31 AM
The one guy whose drum solos have never bored me is Matt Abts the dozen or so times I've seen the Mule. Otherwise, I wouldn't say that drum solos themselves are inherently ''boring'', just invariably too long to the point of being tedious.

[Edited on 9/1/2003 by BANANAMAN]

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 09:36 AM
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Otherwise, I wouldn't say that drum solos themselves are inherently ''boring'', just invariably too long to the point of being tedious.


One nail, hit squarley on the head.

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 09:44 AM
Typically, I find the extended drum solos (soli?) to be a little tedious also. The three exceptions that I can think of are the Dead, the Allman Brothers Band and Carl Palmer (Emerson, Lake and ...). To me, each of these transcends the monotony usually associated with drum solos. I'm not an avid Dead fan, but I was amazed at the drum solo thing (is it called Drums?) that they did at the recent Atlanta show. The percussive triad of Jaimoe, Butch and Marc was equally impressive a week later. Carl Palmer's piece (with ELP in the '70's) "Tocatta" was mesmerizing.

 

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  posted on 9/1/2003 at 10:53 AM
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Know what, I thoroughly enjoy Yonrico Scott's drum solos - very interesting and just the right length for my ears!
and he keeps us entertained with those faces of his!

 

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  posted on 9/2/2003 at 11:52 AM
I love drum and bass solos, but only when they are played within the context of a jam, and not specifically planned.

Hot Tuna (electric) from the 70's used to contain jam oriented bass solos from Jack Casady, which would actually elevate the tune and the jam. I have never seen the Brothers do it that way, but then again they didn't jam in the same fashion that Tuna did.

Having said that, I like the ABB drum solos, although they are a bit long. They really can get the beat going. On the flip side, the Dead drummers don't compare to Jaimoe and Butch and Marc in my opinion (when it comes to solos only)

 

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  posted on 9/2/2003 at 02:03 PM
I like the drum solos more at the Beacon run than at the summer shows. Why? Beacause the shows are longer at The Beacon...2 sets, usually 3+ hours of music so a nice drum solo is cool with me.
At a 2 hour 30 min summer show I'll take the extra tunes instead of the drums...or a shorter drum solo.
At Montage this year the drums were only 6 or 7 minutes If I remember correctly which was nice.




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  posted on 9/2/2003 at 04:37 PM
Historically (god, I sound like my old history professor, sorry) I too have hated drum solos. The Dead shows I attended seemed to really lose their spark after a twenty minute duel. However, when I saw the Brothers at the Tweeter Center in July I thought the drums/percussion work on Intrumental Illness was incredible. Admittedly, it was the first time I seen the band in over twenty years and I had not heard Marc play before, but I thought the work that Jaimoe, Butch, and Marc did that night enhanced the show.

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  posted on 9/2/2003 at 06:20 PM
i see your point about solo's killing the mood somewhat... but Marc's solo on 3.20.98 is the shat. (I'm almost sure it's that show). It's very repetitive, but when you're tripping your balls off, repetition sounds great!

 

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  posted on 9/3/2003 at 06:42 AM
i dunno. I sorta like them - gives me time to use the bathroom, get a beer, stop up on the lawn....LOL

actually, how about Moby Dick? best percussion solo - EVER.

 

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  posted on 9/13/2003 at 06:04 PM
In the land of Karma, Luck and Vibes ( Las Vegas ) I got an extended drum solo ....

Let this be a lesson to all of you ... Don't start a thread like this cuz it will come back to bite you ..... A blistering show brought to a screeching halt !!!!

Gave me time to go out into the casino, hit on seventeen and get a 5, roll snake eyes, and watch the Yankees beat me for 20 bucks .... Curses !!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 9/15/2003 at 03:40 PM
Just to add my .02 here: When I was a bit younger I used to hate listening to Dead shows etc. with extended drumz and the like.

My attitude on this changed when I considered that the band was probably offering the drum solo instead of a set break. 30 minutes of pounding rhythm is better than 30 minutes of whatever the sound guy cues up for the break (or nothing at all).

Like everyone said: time to grab a beer, use the john, chat up some old friends and make it back in time to get in shape for the finale.

I think it also gives the drummers a chance to play front and center: an opportunity they richly deserve. I've seen Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzman, Bonham, the ABB trio and a few others mentioned in this thread.

Every percussionist mentioned is world class and all of these guys bring something tremendous to the table when they play. Like it or not, it's your choice, but I think it allows these bands to be different when they come to town.

Not many other bands are even able to offer the earth trembling drums that groups like The Dead and The Brothers can, where there is thunder in the air and you're rumbled and lulled into the very earth itself, then shot back out into reailty on a slide-driven blues rocket, or in the case of The Dead, launched into "Space".

[Edited on 9/15/2003 by slidemon]

 

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