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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 08:58 AM
Exclusive: Phish On The Hook
Band's Bassist Gordon Accused Of Child Endangerment

POSTED: 10:22 p.m. EDT August 18, 2003
UPDATED: 12:07 a.m. EDT August 19, 2003

NEW YORK -- A Phish is on the hook for endangering the welfare of a minor after he allegedly tried to take pictures of a young girl inside a deserted boathouse. But following private conversations between the band's manager and the child's parents, there's a question about whether the band's bassist, Mike Gordon, will avoid facing that charge.

Gordon, 38, was arrested after being found late at night in a secluded area with a 9-year-old girl. The girl's parents raised an alarm when she disappeared from a backstage area at Jones Beach Theater.

New York State Park Police say Gordon showed a different side after a concert last week by The Dead. Investigators say Gordon -- who calls himself "Cactus" -- was an invited guest backstage at Jones Beach. He was not invited, they say, to take a 9-year-old girl to an isolated location behind the theater.

"The area is actually like a work area for state employees who operate boats out of that area," said Maj. Richard O'Donnell, of the New York State Park Police. "It's a darkened area, not intended for public access."

O'Donnell, who is the region's commanding officer, would not discuss what the bass player told officers when he was found with the child on a dock. But a police report obtained by NewsChannel 4 reveals "The defendant stated he wanted to take 'art photos' of the victim."

Police confirm that Gordon has never been convicted of any crime. Law enforcement sources said that after the band member was arrested, he told officers, "I may have shown bad judgment, but I am not a pedophile."

The Law enforcement sources identify the girl's father as a leader of the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club, whom they say had also been invited backstage to watch The Dead concert. Gordon was held for police by theater security "and the victim's father's associates -- which the police report decribes as other Hell's Angels members.

When responding to a request for an interview, Phish's manager e-mailed a joint statement from Gordon and the child's parents that reads: "It is now clear to all involved that this was an unfortunate misunderstanding, and we look forward to putting this matter behind us."

Later, in a conference call, the manager said Gordon's trying to "make amends" with the family. The girl's father added that "muckraking journalists should put the story to rest."

Both declined to discuss whether the musician is paying compensation.

When asked by NewsChannel 4 if there was any reasonable explanation for Gordon to have been with the girl at 1:00 AM in a secluded boat house, Maj. O'Donnell of the State Park Police said "I have no explanation for it."

The commander says he "absolutely" stands by the police investigation and has referred the bass player's boathouse rendezvous case to the Nassau County district attorney for prosecution.

The DA's office says the evidence is being evaluated. Regardless of whether Gordon has to face a judge next month, law-enforcement sources say unofficial justice was already delivered. The Hell's Angels, who detained Gordon for police, were not, the sources say, gentle with sensitive areas of the rock star's body.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 09:15 AM
damn, Gordon....what were you thinking?




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The Hell's Angels, who detained Gordon for police, were not, the sources say, gentle with sensitive areas of the rock star's body.


ouch...

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 09:59 AM
The polite way of saying they kicked him in the balls.
First the rape thing going on on Phish tour, now this,for some reason I think their careers are going to be going down the toilet.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:12 AM
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First the rape thing going on on Phish tour, now this,for some reason I think their careers are going to be going down the toilet


Didn't know about that Pam...what was it?

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:20 AM
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The DA's office says the evidence is being evaluated. Regardless of whether Gordon has to face a judge next month, law-enforcement sources say unofficial justice was already delivered. The Hell's Angels, who detained Gordon for police, were not, the sources say, gentle with sensitive areas of the rock star's body.



Was thinking about doing that myself after watching that Rising Low fiasco ....

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:29 AM
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T he Law enforcement sources identify the girl's father as a leader of the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club
!!!!

phuck. mike gordon was my favorite phish guy.

the rape thing was a fellow (from the same county i live i might add) that was drugging girls at the phish shows then raping them. the fella would meet the girls on the phish site, arrange a meeting then do his thing.

don't know what became of it though.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:37 AM
Damn, I hadn't heard about that...thanks Linnie

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:41 AM
Denza, I posted the long article on the rape thing here on the WP, might be on page 2 now.
Well if Mike suddenly disappears we wont have to question why.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:47 AM
Wonder if he is playing higher register bass lines now? Next time, I bet he asks the little girls he likes to artfully pose if their dad is in the Hell's Angels....

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:50 AM
in mikes defense, even the father of the little girl is ready to move on with this.....

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and he is an accomplished photographer. still........

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:52 AM
Thanks to you as well PAM...

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"The defendant stated he wanted to take 'art photos' of the victim."


'art photos'...yea, ok, sure, uh-huh

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 10:55 AM
Still....the only way he will get off, or is getting off, the hook is paying up. Still...he should have asked her parents permission to take pictures. Still...I hope the HA's had their heaviest boots on.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 11:01 AM
I wasn't aware that Hell's Angels even knew what muckraking is....how about that, literate HA's...maybe all that time down at Kesey's place had a positive effect....

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 11:53 AM
He's probably is trying to keep his daughter out of the limelight...

Mike Gordon you better get the BIG pen out...

[Edited on 8/19/2003 by Denza]

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 12:39 PM
http://cf.wnbc.com/ny/sh/videoplayer/video.cfm?id=2414726&owner=ny

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 12:48 PM
from a phish board by way of terrapin:

"my sources...my good friend of 7 years...my friends uncle (head of mounted police) & jones beach security guard...friend of friend....

mike was giving everyone under the sun (from adults to kids) rides on his IT segway....silly lil scooter.....the mother of the 9 yr old allowed this to happen.....

this "Secluded Boathouse", is neither secluded or a boathouse..there was two normal jones beach secuirty guards there...in case people wanna sneak into the show...(secret entrance)....

mike was just taking pictures of the girl on his segway....not good judement , but nothing to get crazy about... ...after ten minutes the girls mother starts freakin out..."were's my daughter"....(mind you the mother was induced with something, eyes bulging, lip biting..typical white trash mom)....mother calls her husband, a hells angel....ten minutes later there are 5 angels making there way through security.....mike is confronted...grabbed by the thoat and on his knees getting kicked at......

the VIP security guards got in the middle and explained that mike was a celeb, and was a film maker.....the funniest part is this...the angels wanted to break his segway, so the one secuirty guard put it in his car and its been sitting in wantagh for the last week and a half.....

after all of this the daughter explained nothing happended and that was that...long story short...bad judgement, unlucky for mike the girls dad was a druggy/hells angel, a quick rush to judgement, few kicks to the nizzuts,,,,"my bad"....move on...."

me, i don't know. other people around? security guards? maybe gossip, maybe not? if he did something sketchy, put him under the jail...



 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 01:21 PM
So the Phish bass-ist got kicked in the cod? (snare drum roll followed by cymbal crash).
(That's me doin' my Phish -schtick!)

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 03:25 PM
LOL!!! I like the stinky humor!

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 03:33 PM
This story is very dissapointing to hear.

I don't know the full story, but it doesn't sound cool. I'm not too happy

[Edited on 8/19/2003 by WasntBorn2Follow]

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 04:12 PM
fox 5 news (ny,ny) is having a story on it shortly..

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 04:49 PM
Let's not get carried away here. He's not been convicted of anything. Yeah, he's a dorky wierd kind of dude, but noone of us know what really happened.

As for the rape thing, suggesting that that incident coupled with this one is gonna make their careers go down the tubes is ridiculous. Bad stuff happens at any concert. The Phish scene had definitely gone astray from its conceptual days in the early 90's. Long gone is the euphoria of their little scene being a tiny utopia where everyone is looking out for each others 'great show'.

Phish results in the scene, the scene doesn't result in Phish. They'll play as long as they can breathe....

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 04:54 PM
Who takes pictures of young girls at night, alone in a deserted area? That's not normal. I'm not accusing him of anything, but from what I'm hearing it sounds very abnormal and questionable.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2003 at 05:06 PM
Yes, he is dorky and weird but what I want to know is what the hell is a 30 or 40 whatever year old dude doing with a scooter and hanging out behind the show in the first place? If there was some dude that age riding around my neighborhood trying to walk off with a child "to show them the scooter and take pictures" I would kick him in the balls too.
Also this whole story makes me wonder why the parents weren't with the child. I wouldn't let Abi go with anyone without my being there at a show. Ever, not even with friends.
There are two sides to every story and the truth is bound to come out at some point, in the mean time don't let your kids take candy from strangers or scooter rides from dorky weird bass players.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2003 at 09:03 AM
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If there was some dude that age riding around my neighborhood trying to walk off with a child "to show them the scooter and take pictures" I would kick him in the balls too.



Pam!


Hell yeah! Where did that come from??? I didn't think I could see you p!ssed off.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2003 at 11:50 AM
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Yes, he is dorky and weird but what I want to know is what the hell is a 30 or 40 whatever year old dude doing with a scooter and hanging out behind the show in the first place? If there was some dude that age riding around my neighborhood trying to walk off with a child "to show them the scooter and take pictures" I would kick him in the balls too.
Also this whole story makes me wonder why the parents weren't with the child. I wouldn't let Abi go with anyone without my being there at a show. Ever, not even with friends.
There are two sides to every story and the truth is bound to come out at some point, in the mean time don't let your kids take candy from strangers or scooter rides from dorky weird bass players.


Would you feel differently if it were Oteil?



But it wasn't...Oteil knows better.....

But i'm not saying the Phish dude was guilty....you got nuts that set people up too...

One of my bosses..served on a jury a few years ago....some Grandpa's family turned on him..and set him up as molesting their kids...the old man was going nuts...then right at the end...the daughter broke down and said they had set him up.

What was bad...was that more than half of the jury was ready to convict him.

 

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