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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 09:59 AM
Anybody watching this?
While Kerry was giving the opening statements she looked like she was a college kid that had just completed an all week cram session, and the speed was wearing off.
When Kerry spoke that her campaign financing would be under question, and that Lugar would have those in depth questions in a moment, it looked as if she was giving Kerry the "evil eye"
stare.
So far, she hasn't had the chance to say anything since Lugar has been basically talking about the Clinton Foundation and how they will have to disclose all donations to this date, and to insure that no foreign donations be accepted during her tenure as Sec. of State to insure that there is no conflict of interest with her position.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 10:22 AM
I'm watching the obviously bored female photographer behind Hillary.

Heh heh.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 10:26 AM
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I'm watching the obviously bored female photographer behind Hillary.

Heh heh.


The blond in the maroon dress?

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 10:27 AM
Or the one that looks like Sean Penn in drag?

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 10:27 AM
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I'm watching the obviously bored female photographer behind Hillary.

Heh heh.


We're going to need pictures, Photo

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 10:28 AM
Wonder if this is streaming live anywhere...hmmm....

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 10:50 AM
http://admorales.tv/2009/01/13/live-video-clinton-to-be-questioned-at-senat e-confirmation-hearing/

The video starts pretty much at the beginning.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 11:47 AM
I think she'll be a good Secretary of State. She's smart and she knows what she's talking about. In my estimation she's better prepared for the job than Rice was and will be more effective than Rice has been.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 11:55 AM
Why, because she's a Democrat? Or because she's a former first lady?

I think Rice was qualified. Check her bio...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/rice-bio.html

She might have been more effective in a different administration. Her tenure will always be tainted because she served under the Bush administration.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 12:18 PM
It has nothing to do with being a democrat however she's been a senator for the past several years and yes, being a former first lady doesn't hurt. I think she's a smart woman who has delt with a number of world leaders one way or another for at least 15 years, (I'm not even including the time she and Bill spent in Arkansas when he was governor) Rice might be educated, but Hillary has boots on the ground experience.

I equate criticism of her experience with someone saying I wouldn't know anything about the music business because I was 'only' married to Johnny and not sitting behind the instrument or the console.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 02:56 PM
She is smart, hard working, and is well known and respected by most countries around the world. I think she will make a fine Secretary Of State.

 

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So the past four years Rice has BEEN the Secretary of State doesn't count as boots on the ground experience? I'm sure Clinton will do alright, probably about the same as all the past SOS's. Nothing beats OJT.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 03:54 PM
Apparently she's "intervened" on behalf of a half dozen companies that turned around and donated big bucks to Bubba's 'foundation.' The "Chicago way" is apparently the Hillary way as well.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 04:14 PM
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So the past four years Rice has BEEN the Secretary of State doesn't count as boots on the ground experience? I'm sure Clinton will do alright, probably about the same as all the past SOS's. Nothing beats OJT.


Rice didn't have boots on the ground experience when she took the position. I thought we were discussing Clinton....is Rice in contention for the position under the Obama administration?

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 05:20 PM
No, but when YOU first brought up Rice, you insinuated she wasn't qualified and hasn't done a good job as SOS. Since when does being a national security advisor to the President for four years before her appointment to SOS not constitute boots on the ground experience?

Like I said, Clinton will do as good of a job as Rice did. SOS's aren't policy makers anyway, they're policy enforcers. They'll do what their bosses tell them to do, or they'll be replaced by someone who will do what the boss says.

I see Clinton and Obama butting heads at some point, because Clinton wants power, and SOS doesn't carry the same clout as POTUS.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 05:21 PM
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Or the one that looks like Sean Penn in drag?


That's the one.

In the blue shirt.

Hilarious.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 05:28 PM
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No, but when YOU first brought up Rice, you insinuated she wasn't qualified and hasn't done a good job as SOS. Since when does being a national security advisor to the President for four years before her appointment to SOS not constitute boots on the ground experience?




In my estimation she's better prepared for the job than Rice was and will be more effective than Rice has been.

Because I said I thought Clinton is better prepared and would do a better job means I don't think Rice has been any good? Your logic doesn't hold up.

 

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So the past four years Rice has BEEN the Secretary of State doesn't count as boots on the ground experience? I'm sure Clinton will do alright, probably about the same as all the past SOS's. Nothing beats OJT.
Rice didn't have boots on the ground experience when she took the position. I thought we were discussing Clinton....is Rice in contention for the position under the Obama administration?
Ann, this is the main part of your statements I take issue with. Again I say, Rice had 4 years as a national security adviser before she became SOS. And here's the REST of her political credentials.
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As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching.

At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions.

From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the (G.H.W.) Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military.
I'd say she was WELL qualified to be SOS.

I'm not trying to denounce Clinton as SOS, but I felt compelled to defend SOS Rice, as her credentials speak for themselves. She could have been regarded as one of the great SOS's if she had served in a different administration, but as we know, the Bush administration won't go down in history as one of the more remarkable presidencies on account of the situation in the Mideast. I guess you could say it's guilt by association.

As with President-elect Obama, I hope "SOS to be" Clinton does well in her new position.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 06:16 PM
I guess I have no choice than to bow to your superior opinions and agree that Rice is without a doubt the most qualified and best prepared secretary of state ever in the history of this country. She has brought the world to its knees with her excellent skills in brokering peace and all wars have been ended. She is smart, beautiful, God's true gift to this great country. How could I possibly have had an opinion that someone might be better than her? How utterly foolish of me to think I knew what I was talking about. Please forgive me for not remembering my place.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 06:23 PM
Simmer down....I never said she was best. I said she was QUALIFIED. She also has someone pulling her strings, which, IMO, makes the position a mouthpiece position. Why do you think Powell resigned? He got used and didn't like. Rice must have liked it or she would have left, too.

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I think she'll be a good Secretary of State. She's smart and she knows what she's talking about. In my estimation she's better prepared for the job than Rice was and will be more effective than Rice has been.


Just quoting for posterity....Ann...you are anti Bush and therefore anti Bush administration. Obama could have picked some person none of us had heard of for SOS and you would have made the same comment.

 

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I think she'll be a good Secretary of State. She's smart and she knows what she's talking about. In my estimation she's better prepared for the job than Rice was and will be more effective than Rice has been.


Just quoting for posterity....Ann...you are anti Bush and therefore anti Bush administration. Obama could have picked some person none of us had heard of for SOS and you would have made the same comment.


Did it ever occur to anyone that I don't like the Bush administration because by and large I think they're inept. There are several republicans I've spoken of highly. Most people tend to miss the subtlty of the adequacy of the entire Bush presidency. And I haven't been a fan of Rice from the beginng even before I knew Bush was inept.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 07:27 PM
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I'm watching the obviously bored female photographer behind Hillary.

Heh heh.


The blond in the maroon dress?


Chelsea. Isn't she a bit old for take your daughter to work day? That was a weird choice to have her there. Lookin' good though!

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 07:33 PM
It's possible to admire the accomplishments and qualifications of both Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice. I know I do. It's not neccesary to put one down to support the other.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 07:57 PM
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It has nothing to do with being a democrat however she's been a senator for the past several years and yes, being a former first lady doesn't hurt. I think she's a smart woman who has delt with a number of world leaders one way or another for at least 15 years, (I'm not even including the time she and Bill spent in Arkansas when he was governor) Rice might be educated, but Hillary has boots on the ground experience.

I equate criticism of her experience with someone saying I wouldn't know anything about the music business because I was 'only' married to Johnny and not sitting behind the instrument or the console.


You may something about the music business. But could you play in the band or produce an album? As well as say Johnny.

 

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