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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 03:27 PM
Just curious. Monday I went to the Doctor and she told me I now have Type II diabetes. They gave me a monitor to check my glucose levels. Also gave me a script, so she has put me on the pill form insulin. My Tryglycerides (msp) were over 1100. My sugar levels on the report were 284, then checked at the office at 254, Did a check Tuesday am (fasting) it was 80 which I think was an inaccurate indication. Today it was 244 (fasted). Today is my second day on the insulin pill.

Since Monday all I have drank is water and a little coffee, no more sweet tea (my favorite). My last cigarette was on the way home from work Monday. So almost 48 hours with out a smoke. The Doctor also told me no more alcohol. So they took my tea, smokes and alcohol. I laughed last night and said they are not taking my ketchup.....lol.

I guess this is what the song High Cost of Low Living is in reference too. But its definitely to the good. Just turned 50 in September. I always thought that I didn't take to good of my body the first 50, so I need to take care of it the second 50.

After the initial shock, I started looking at some of the foods I can eat................anybody like cardboard?????

Going to be a tough weekend up at the Christmas Jam. Gonna stick to my guns though.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 03:35 PM
Bro, you always have a positive attitude, and a great sense of humor about things. I wish I could be that way all of the time. It has been a tough year for many people, and this place is one of the few things that keeps me sane.


Hey just put some ketchup on that cardboard, and it won't be so bad.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 03:53 PM
So sorry to hear this John. We're the same age, and I'm cosidered borderline. I have a glucose tolerence test done every 6 months. Diabetes seems to run in my family. My weakness is soda's. Coca Cola, or Mountain Dew. I can't stand diet soda's. I try to watch my diet on what I eat. I am a social drinker only, but I really battle with my weight to stay under 200. I wish you the best because there will be major changes with sugar consumption. Go to a 12 grain bread (no white} and watch your intake of potato's. Both turn into sugar. There are some good diet sweet teas out there. I've been buying the Turkey Hill brand at Krogers. Prayers out to ya bro on giving up the cigarettes. We both share that nasty habit. I've got to give them up myself, or let them kill me. Kevin

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 04:10 PM
Thanks Kevin, Susie has been asking what's wrong with me.........she doesn't smoke and doesn't know the feeling. So I have had a bit of a short fuse so to speak..............she thinks its her and its me......................

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 04:13 PM
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I have Type II diabetes, I was diagnosed with it 2 and a half years ago. At first, I was like you thinking that I had to give up everything I liked. I bought into the idea of changing things 100%. I watched what I ate, walked 3 miles every day to get my weight down and tried to lead a healthy lifestyle. I found out that what my doctor said was correct, if my weightt got lower, my diabetes would lessen, although never disappear. My medication has been decreased.

I don't think you are taking insulin. I think you are on another type of medicine, possibly Metformin. This medication reduces the production of glucose in the liver. I don't believe that insulin can be given in pills. There is a wealth of information on the web and also in books. Don't laugh, but one book I founf particularly helpful for me was Diabetes For Dummies.

Good luck and let me know how you are doing.

[Edited on 12/10/2008 by old_time_fan]



Your a smart man, Medformin it is..........I have been on the web quite a bit since Monday. I will check out the book D4D's? Thanks

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 04:25 PM

They always check me for it, but so far I have been lucky. My Doc always starts gettin' on me about my weight. Starting to look and feel like a Sea Cow.

You take care of yourself like Brother Otie, and I hope it gets better for ya.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 04:33 PM
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Thanks Kevin, Susie has been asking what's wrong with me.........she doesn't smoke and doesn't know the feeling. So I have had a bit of a short fuse so to speak..............she thinks its her and its me......................

Just thought I'd add that a friend of mine is using Commit losenges. They have a new cappucino flavor that tastes like Worthers candy. They cut back the cravings, and are about the same price as what you would pay daily for smokes. They have them sugar free also.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 04:35 PM
hey rottinpeach - start to find out more information on "novo nordisk." they are a company that is based out of sweden, but has a large presence in my area of princeton, nj. their corporate mission to rid the world of type II diabetes.

my wife also worked on a diabetes drug. i'll get some more info for you.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 04:50 PM
John, take care of yourself bro. You know what you got to do. Just DO it.

I have to admit, I hate hearing the doctor say, "You're at that age..."

I've been without a physical for over three years, and have really put on some weight recently. At the beginning of January, I start a new major medical plan. I intend to get a physical and I can't wait for the doctor to state the obvious....lose weight and exercise.

I have had problems with Triglycerides in the past, but they were only around 227 last time they were checked (they need to be UNDER 200.) My cholesterol has never been over 200. It's usually around 170. Last time it was checked it was 172. BUT...my bad cholesterol was high, and the doc said with high bad cholesterol and high triglycerides, that was an early indication of a tendency towards diabetes. Three years ago, I might have weighed 230, +/-, now I am 260. I got to get a grip on my health....SOON.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 05:03 PM
I'm sorry to hear about this rottinpeach. Let me echo what BDOB has said. You can do it Bro'. I suffer from an autoimmune disease and completely changed my diet in the past two months. It is not easy, but you can do it!!!
 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 05:19 PM
Hey John. Go to mercola.com and research everything this dude has to say about diabetes and health in general. He's my bible on health and NOT a quack but way ahead of traditional approaches. His mantra is "Cut out/reduce grains and sugars."

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 05:49 PM
Hey rottinpeach,

Pulling for you...

I too am a borderline diabetic since 1987. Has not got any worse since then. I stay away from the starches and eat meals at certain times of day..every day...

If you need any help with the smoking (lozenges, patches,gum), send me a pm

I need to give up smoking too

 

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Hey John, as a nurse, I literally gasped out loud at your triglyceride level. Did the doc put you on any meds for that and your cholesterol? I take Lovaza (which is basically Omega 3) and Vytorin for mine.

You're right about the pill. In Type II diabetes, the pancreas is still secreting some insulin...just not enough. In Type I diabetes, the pancreas is not secreting any insulin, thus the need for insulin injections.

Did they draw a hemoglobin A1C on you? Anyway, good luck with this....I know you can do it. Your great attitude is a perfect start.

See you at the Christmas Jam!

Laura Jane

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 07:53 PM
John,

I have type II. Diagnosed in May 98, after losing a bunch of weight. I did the exercise thing for 4 years, watching the weight, eating right, taking my meds. But damn, still caught up with me. In 2002 went on 104 units of insulin daily, two types, glucophage/metformin, tricore, medicine for gout, and live functions, etc., etc. It can be a bummer, but have to live with it. See your endo religiously and follow as much of his advice.

Not sure if anyone else brought it up, but even with a support system, the psyche can get to you. A good support system helps, so does good music

Not sure what to add here, but it is a day to day thing. You can get sugars ranging all over the place depending on your physical and mental status, colds, infections, stress, lack of sleep (by the way, they say 8 hours.....but life rarely cooperates). Watch your signs of both high and low sugars. I try to eat something every couple of waking hours as if you get busy you can forget and start the droopsies and shaking I get when my sugars start dropping. Also don't drive or operate machinery when your sugars are very high or very low. And, never, ever, get engaged in the "Whipping Post".....

Cheers and good luck.

Carlos "been there, doing that" Rivera

ps-And, don't pay exhorbitant prices for so-called "diabetic foods". They are way too priced and often contain ingredients harmful in other ways.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 08:15 PM
Get the book [sugarbusters] follow it to the letter, and get phisically active walk, work out. the book is great and if you follow it you will lose weight and blood sugar, cholesterol, blood pressure will come down. it stresses no sugar, no bread ,no potatos, and the tough one NO BEER. im 46 I went from 240 lbs to 200 in 4-5 months. Just do it, the alternative sucks, blindness, amputation, kidney failure,stroke, heart attack, early death.

 

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Thanks Kevin, Susie has been asking what's wrong with me.........she doesn't smoke and doesn't know the feeling. So I have had a bit of a short fuse so to speak..............she thinks its her and its me......................



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Thanks Kevin, Susie has been asking what's wrong with me.........she doesn't smoke and doesn't know the feeling. So I have had a bit of a short fuse so to speak..............she thinks its her and its me......................



Pray for me - LOL!!!
Susie, at least he's riding with a couple of non-smokers! Last year at the Xmas Jam, my diverticulitis was acting up and I was on meds and couldn't drink and I had a great time. Sorry about your troubles, John, but I see you're headed in the right direction.

 

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I was diagnosed in 1995. Had made three trips to the Med Center complaining of dizziness, blurred vision, and generally just couldn't do anything. Felt like every move I made was like swimming through mud.
A doctor asked me what I was taking for my diabetes, and I looked at him and said "I've got diabetes?"
My blood sugar was over 400.
Crash course on learning to actually enjoy black coffee and unsweetened tea, no desserts, backing off on fried foods, and all the traditional southern snacks got me on the right track.
My wife hated it when I'd take her and the kids to Dairy Queen and ordered banana splits for them, but I'd sit there and drink water.
I reasoned to them that they were eating the same diet I was, and they needed to splurge once in a while as a reward for backing me up. I think I had more fun watching them eat the splits than I would have had eating one myself.
They still drank the sweetened tea and could have the snacks, but they endured the experiments on how to eat grilled chicken almost every day and make different meals from it.
( I devised one recipe called "green chicken" by marinating the chicken in Green Tabasco sauce.)
I've learned to love salads, with vinaigrettes, broiled fish, grilled porkchops, fruit rather than snacks, diet drinks (not too many), and learned to read the boxes for those "hidden sugars".

I went from almost 300 lbs down to 168 lbs in less than a year. You really get an incentive to lose weight when the doctor says "lose weight or die".
I now keep my weight below 200 (I actually lose weight during the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years' time frame.)

You've got a good support group here, and believe me, we all need the support to keep healthy with this disease.

 

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Hey John, as a nurse, I literally gasped out loud at your triglyceride level. Did the doc put you on any meds for that and your cholesterol? I take Lovaza (which is basically Omega 3) and Vytorin for mine.

You're right about the pill. In Type II diabetes, the pancreas is still secreting some insulin...just not enough. In Type I diabetes, the pancreas is not secreting any insulin, thus the need for insulin injections.

Did they draw a hemoglobin A1C on you? Anyway, good luck with this....I know you can do it. Your great attitude is a perfect start.

See you at the Christmas Jam!

Laura Jane


I did the same thing Laura. The test I had in July came back with great results. My Doc even reduced my cholesterol medicine in half. Glucose was a tad high. This past test was completely the opposite. I went in thinking they may take me off the cholesterol meds. The Doc put me back on Vytorin (msp) and Metformin. They did a abdomen ultrasound today.
Tested after work before eating and it was 196. Still not had any sweet beverages since Monday, water/coffee only. I don't even want a cigarette. At least that is what I keep telling myself................... NO snacks except popcorn last night.

 

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Thanks Kevin, Susie has been asking what's wrong with me.........she doesn't smoke and doesn't know the feeling. So I have had a bit of a short fuse so to speak..............she thinks its her and its me......................



Pray for me - LOL!!!
Susie, at least he's riding with a couple of non-smokers! Last year at the Xmas Jam, my diverticulitis was acting up and I was on meds and couldn't drink and I had a great time. Sorry about your troubles, John, but I see you're headed in the right direction.







And that direction is due West towards Asheville.............................see you tomorrow Jay.

 

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I was diagnosed in 1995. Had made three trips to the Med Center complaining of dizziness, blurred vision, and generally just couldn't do anything. Felt like every move I made was like swimming through mud.
A doctor asked me what I was taking for my diabetes, and I looked at him and said "I've got diabetes?"
My blood sugar was over 400.
Crash course on learning to actually enjoy black coffee and unsweetened tea, no desserts, backing off on fried foods, and all the traditional southern snacks got me on the right track.
My wife hated it when I'd take her and the kids to Dairy Queen and ordered banana splits for them, but I'd sit there and drink water.
I reasoned to them that they were eating the same diet I was, and they needed to splurge once in a while as a reward for backing me up. I think I had more fun watching them eat the splits than I would have had eating one myself.
They still drank the sweetened tea and could have the snacks, but they endured the experiments on how to eat grilled chicken almost every day and make different meals from it.
( I devised one recipe called "green chicken" by marinating the chicken in Green Tabasco sauce.)
I've learned to love salads, with vinaigrettes, broiled fish, grilled porkchops, fruit rather than snacks, diet drinks (not too many), and learned to read the boxes for those "hidden sugars".

I went from almost 300 lbs down to 168 lbs in less than a year. You really get an incentive to lose weight when the doctor says "lose weight or die".
I now keep my weight below 200 (I actually lose weight during the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years' time frame.)

You've got a good support group here, and believe me, we all need the support to keep healthy with this disease.




I was like you. I had no idea. My diet was pretty decent, ate a lot of grilled stuff, chicken, pork, vegs when it came to dinners. My evening would start out with a couple beers while cooking dinner. Then after dinner I would get ready for bed, snack later, watch TV and fall asleep. Sometimes those snacks would be a little much as we can tell. I get plenty of sleep. Probably much more than most folks. I average 10 hours of sleep a night. The cpap machine takes care of that....... OH yeah, smoked 4-5 smokes outside during that time period.


I really appreciate everyone's comments. They are very helpful and informative. Keep them coming.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 09:41 PM
John, I got nothin', other than I wish you all the best (and Susie too)! I could probably clean up my act a little too, ok, a lot!
 

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  posted on 12/10/2008 at 11:05 PM
keep up the good work.
another book with a helpful diet is South Beach.

also, keep moving. regular exercise will help.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2008 at 03:37 AM
Hang in there John. You can do it, be strong. I started taking meds for high blood pressure yesterday, have lost 15lb since Sept, but still not enough @245.

 

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Thanks Kevin, Susie has been asking what's wrong with me.........she doesn't smoke and doesn't know the feeling. So I have had a bit of a short fuse so to speak..............she thinks its her and its me......................



Pray for me - LOL!!!

Prayers sent for a great time in Ashevillle. John is a strong guy that is going to get through this. Warren is going to help him out this week!

 

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