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Author: Subject: ERIC CLAPTON, ROGER DALTREY & OTHERS TO PLAY PRO-HUNTING CONCERT

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 02:17 PM
"Some of the biggest names in British rock royalty have signed on to play a pro-hunting concert. The Highclere Rocks event, which takes place May 20th at Highclere Castle in Hampshire, England, will feature guitarist Eric Clapton, Who singer Roger Daltrey, Queen drummer Roger Taylor, Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason and former bassist Roger Waters, among others. The house band for the show includes Procol Harum singer-keyboardist Gary Brooker, Genesis and Mike + the Mechanics guitarist Mike Rutherford, and singer-keyboardist Paul Carrack, who's worked with Squeeze, Mike + the Mechanics, Ace, and others. The event is being staged by the Countryside Alliance, which works to preserve "the countryside and the rural way of life."

In addition to their support for hunting, other issues the Countryside Alliance is concerned with are fishing and tax reform for rural areas."

My first reaction: what? No Ted Nugent? As a non British special guest!

 

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What a bunch of dickheads. Why do a bunch of rockstars feel the need to try and circumvent the democratic process in the U.K.
Clapton has always been a **** as shown by his pro fascist statements back in the 70s but I would have expected better from Daltrey

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 02:31 PM
The Nuge!!!! (kind of pshyco IMO) lol

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 02:41 PM
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What a bunch of dickheads. Why do a bunch of rockstars feel the need to try and circumvent the democratic process in the U.K.
Clapton has always been a **** as shown by his pro fascist statements back in the 70s but I would have expected better from Daltrey
Tell us how you REALLY feel. (I see you're English. You have a qualified opinion, I don't.)

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 02:44 PM
BigDave, you beat me to it

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 02:46 PM
geordilad, maybe I missed something with this story, but how are these musicians circumventing the democratic process???I'm not trying to be antagonistic......just learning more about this situation and failing to understand your position. Thank you.
 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 02:49 PM
Calling Roger Waters Pink Floyd's bassist is like calling Prince the guitar player for the Revolution.

 

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geordilad, maybe I missed something with this story, but how are these musicians circumventing the democratic process???I'm not trying to be antagonistic......just learning more about this situation and failing to understand your position. Thank you.


I was going to ask the same question.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 02:57 PM
It is definitely an interesting topic, not as clearcut as one might initially think. I had always been under the impression that hunting was somewhat of a class issue in Great Britain. A little research shows that currently fox hunting has become controversial http://www.guardian.co.uk/hunt

Here's a link to the Countryside Alliance, the organization that will benefit from the show with Clapton, et al

http://www.countryside-alliance.org/

They purport that "woodland managed by hunts is diverse and thriving, according to a new scientific study, with seven times more butterfly species and four more plant species than in unmanaged areas." And they do mean foxhunting.

I've never understood hunting anything you ain't gonna eat.



[Edited on 3/17/2006 by rlrichie]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 03:19 PM
I don't hunt, but I would actually like to do it before I get old and feable and can't climb into a deer stand. If I ever do bag a buck, you can bet your sweet bippy I am going to have it processed and consume it. I will never hunt just to kill something.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 03:19 PM
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What a bunch of dickheads. Why do a bunch of rockstars feel the need to try and circumvent the democratic process in the U.K.
Clapton has always been a **** as shown by his pro fascist statements back in the 70s but I would have expected better from Daltrey


What did Clapton say in the 70's??? I'm very curious.

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What a bunch of dickheads. Why do a bunch of rockstars feel the need to try and circumvent the democratic process in the U.K.
Clapton has always been a **** as shown by his pro fascist statements back in the 70s but I would have expected better from Daltrey


What did Clapton say in the 70's??? I'm very curious.

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And remember there was a period of time in the 70's when he was a heroin addict. He may have changed his tune after he got straight.

 

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"In 1976, Clapton was the centre of controversy, and accusations of racism, when he spoke out against increasing immigration, during a concert in Birmingham. Clapton said that England had "become overcrowded", and implored the crowd to vote for Enoch Powell to stop Britain becoming "a black colony". These comments (along with equally ill-advised comments by David Bowie) led to the creation of the Rock Against Racism movement in the UK."

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rock_Against_Racism

 

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"In 1976, Clapton was the centre of controversy, and accusations of racism, when he spoke out against increasing immigration, during a concert in Birmingham. Clapton said that England had "become overcrowded", and implored the crowd to vote for Enoch Powell to stop Britain becoming "a black colony". These comments (along with equally ill-advised comments by David Bowie) led to the creation of the Rock Against Racism movement in the UK."

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rock_Against_Racism



Holy crap!!! I can't believe Clapton would say that.... Especially considering his musical heros were all black!! There must have been more to this.... And the heroin sure didn't help his judgment I'm sure.

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"In 1976, Clapton was the centre of controversy, and accusations of racism, when he spoke out against increasing immigration, during a concert in Birmingham. Clapton said that England had "become overcrowded", and implored the crowd to vote for Enoch Powell to stop Britain becoming "a black colony". These comments (along with equally ill-advised comments by David Bowie) led to the creation of the Rock Against Racism movement in the UK."

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rock_Against_Racism



Holy crap!!! I can't believe Clapton would say that.... Especially considering his musical heros were all black!! There must have been more to this.... And the heroin sure didn't help his judgment I'm sure.

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He was clean long before 1976.

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 04:11 PM
In England rich people like to dress up in silly red coats and chase foxes on horseback with dogs. Our present Labour government had in its' manifesto plans to ban this. The ban was finally implemented about a year ago.
Rich people in England however, don't like obeying laws they don't agree with so generally speaking. they ignore it and hunt anyway.
Pesonally speaking, either the class issue OR the cruelty issue works for me. Hunting with dogs is illegal in the UK so live with it pampered, far removed from reality rockstars
Re. Clapton. He said it! and no amount of smack, booze ingestion excuses it especially as far as i'm aware he has never explained himself.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 04:20 PM
The debate about hunting in the UK involves the hunting of foxes by packs of hounds.

I think hunting has different connotations in the US and you are entitled to exercise your your rights within the law. "Hunting with dogs" in the UK is now illegal but a lot of "Hunts", as they are called, ignore this as the ban is difficult to police. The Countryside Alliance protest against the ban. They may have ecolgical reasons based on countryside management for doing so. Perhaps they just like dressing up in red (or "pink") coats and running to ground foxes and tearing them to bits.

I have my views on hunting. I'm disappointed by the involvement of some of these guys but given how much of the countryside these guys now own, who can be surprised?


 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 05:28 PM
The "Nudge" would be perfect!


I met Ted at a NRA rally in Atlanta couple of years ago. He was so very gracious and kind, staying long past his scheduled time for pics and autographs.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2006 at 06:27 PM


I've never understood hunting anything you ain't gonna eat.



[Edited on 3/17/2006 by rlrichie]

i'm right there with you. we eat a lotta deer meat. it's better for you than beef. no steroids or preservatives. i can't eat no fox.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2006 at 03:37 PM
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i'm right there with you. we eat a lotta deer meat. it's better for you than beef. no steroids or preservatives. i can't eat no fox.



Over here in the heartland of the US, yes, when I help my friends butcher a doe that has been hanging and aged for a couple of weeks, I gladly accept a slab of backstrap for my efforts. As for fox, on occasion they become varmints who do damage to other animals and get overpopulated. A couple of years ago a red fox got too bold and brazen and started a free for all in my buddy's chicken coop after dark behind his farm house. After Mr. red fox took the first bird then all the carnivores in the area followed suit, even an owl who came back a few nights in a row and would land by a tree where we were sitting to case the chicken coop right in front of us. (I have a picture of the owl somewhere). They took 25 chickens in two nights of raids. On the third night he was waiting and the fox got more than he bargained for and wasn't a problem after that.

I agree about the way the English upperclass hunt foxes, as it makes little sense. My friends have dogs that they work for raccoons and game birds, but the way the British upper class do it is a little goofy. But if any other aspect of rural life in the UK is affected by the 'anti's' then I agree with them completely. The English trashed their island a long time ago and have to had to bring back the forests from scratch and so on, especially in Scotland etc. I have friends in Wales, and they have a problem with the pollitically correct demonstrators in London and elsewhere who have little knowledge of rural life.


DH

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  posted on 3/18/2006 at 03:57 PM
Here are some pics of Wales from my friend Mary E.



The Claerwen River in the Elan Valley

 

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The Band of The Royal regiment of Wales plus Regimental goat


DH


[Edited on 3/18/2006 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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  posted on 3/18/2006 at 04:24 PM
I think this is really great. I've been hunting for years and have always found it to be a great opportunity to bond with my father and friends. It is thrilling and great to be outside. We also eat everything we kill and you can get some great meat off of the birds and deer we shoot. I personally love this, to me it is so much more respectable than the Vote for Change tour or whatever we have here in the US, where musicians act as though they know ANYTHING about politics. Atleast now musicians are defending something they personally relate to and enjoy. Overally I've personally never seen anything wrong with hunting, but if the musicians want to put on a concert for anything i disagree with i'd just not attend the show.
Also, I've heard so many explanations about Clapton's comments, trying to defend him, but he was still drinking at that time so much that one time when my uncle saw him in concert he couldn't even stand or play the riffs to his songs. Either way they were uncalled for and wrong. Since then he has openly defended himself discussing how most of his influences are black and all other examples of how he really isn't racist.

 

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The Band of The Royal regiment of Wales plus Regimental goat


DH


[Edited on 3/18/2006 by DerekFromCincinnati]

we eat goat down here too.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2006 at 06:45 PM
Derek, Not for the first time on this site, somebody is asking you. What the F**k are you on about? The English trashed their country!!!!!!! What does that mean?
A law was passed in our country banning hunting with dogs. This law was part of our sitting governments' manifesto. Don't you understand democracy over there in "The land of the free" anymore?

 
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