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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 05:30 PM
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Paying less for concerts



BY PHYLLIS FURMAN
DAILY NEWS BUSINESS WRITER

Get ready to hear music to your ears: Concert ticket prices are about to come down.
Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, the Rolling Stones and Green Day are set to go on tour - but the real news for music fans is an expected drop of as much as 30% on some tickets, concert experts said.

Clear Channel Entertainment, the world's largest concert promoter - which owns the PNC Bank Arts Center and the Jones Beach Theatre - is leading the way, cutting the prices for its lawn seats.

The show biz giant is considering running a big ad campaign with the tag line "Music Sounds Better on Grass," sources said.

No-frills seats at Clear Channel venues that used to go for as much as $40 will now cost $20. On top of that, Clear Channel is ditching the $4 facility fee it used to charge, all in an effort to lure back sticker-shocked music lovers.

"Consumers don't want to pay $45 to sit on a lawn," said Gary Bongionvani, editor of concert biz magazine Pollstar. "The public is pushing back."

Jonny Podell, who handles acts like The Allman Brothers and Cyndi Lauper, said he's cutting ticket prices for his acts this summer by 20% to 30%.

Top-priced tickets for the Allman Brothers will be $40, compared with $50 last year.

And it's not just heritage rockers who will be charging less. The highest priced ticket for contemporary singer Gavin DeGraw, who also is touring this summer, will be $30 - a number seen as affordable for his younger fans.

When Motley Crue comes to Jones Beach this summer, prices for the mid-level seats will be $42, 30% less than what they would have gone for in past years.

"We're pricing tickets in a way that does not exclude any consumer," the band's agent Peter Pappallardo said.

Concert-goers could use a break. Ticket prices have more than doubled over the last decade, with the average price hitting $52.39 last year, while inflation over the same period rose 24%. The top ticket for Madonna last year went for an ear-splitting $300.

That's made ticket buying out of reach, especially for teens.

"When I was young, buying a ticket didn't cause any anxiety," Podell said. "Now you have to make a big decision."

Prices have spiralled up as artists have demanded more and more money upfront. Over the years big stars have been guaranteed a mega pay day - whether on not they filled the venue.

Last year fans balked, refusing to pay up. Tours like Lallapalooza were canned - though it's coming back this year as a two-day festival. Total ticket sales were flat at $2.2 billion, while attendance shrunk by nearly 6%.

In an effort to get prices down, Clear Channel is asking its acts to take smaller guarantees in exchange for a bigger cut of the box office.

Not every act is expected to cut prices. Must-see artists like McCartney, will still command top dollar, with high-end tickets expected to go for as much as $200.

But concert promoters are making every effort to make fans feel like they are getting more value for their dollar. As a result many big names this summer will be paired on a single marquee, like John Mellencamp, who will tour with John Fogerty, and Stevie Nicks, who'll be paired with Don Henley.

"There are a lot of cool shows out there," said Ray Waddell, senior writer at Billboard magazine. "People have shown they need something worth paying for."




 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 05:41 PM
"Music Sounds Better on Grass," sources said.
Yup, that will sure help the ticket sales!

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 05:44 PM
Wow. Now I wish CC owned every venue..... in a way. But up go merchandise prices, and food prices, etc.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 06:24 PM
A little here, a little there. It all ads up. Glad to hear they're doing it.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 06:38 PM
Well, this certainly makes my summer more affordable
 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 06:40 PM
definitely didn't lower tickets for may allman brothers shows, my greek theater tickets were 60 including charges. and dmb tickets were still ridiculous. but hopefully a bunch of the other great acts yet to be announced for jones beach, etc will be cheaper, that would be nice.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 06:49 PM
I noticed that 2nd-tier tickets for the Rosemont show in August are $39.50. That seems a few bucks less I've seen recently.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 07:21 PM
I'm glad this is directed towards the younger crowd. Shouldn't cost that much money for entertainment.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 07:22 PM
Now what'd really be nice is if they started announcing East Coast dates at which they could cut these prices!
 

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I'm glad this is directed towards the younger crowd. Shouldn't cost that much money for entertainment.
Yeah, when I was your age, concert tickets were around $5.50-$6.50.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 07:49 PM
Tell me about it

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 09:42 PM
It's better to play for 20,000 people at $20 bucks each than 10,000 people at $40 each. The gross works out to 400K either way, but you have 10,000 more people to buy t-shirts, Instant Lives, etc.

"Music Sounds Better on Grass"

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 10:47 PM
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It's better to play for 20,000 people at $20 bucks each than 10,000 people at $40 each. The gross works out to 400K either way, but you have 10,000 more people to buy t-shirts, Instant Lives, etc.

"Music Sounds Better on Grass"

Well, we know there is at least ONE cool person somewhere at Clear Channel


BINGO!

I was just gonna mention the "drop the ticket $5, but last year the IL price went up $5.

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  posted on 4/14/2005 at 12:05 AM
WOW!!!

I kinda noticed they were a little lower..

Im goin to see Judas Priest and Queensryche and the lawn tix are only 20..

Sweet

 

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  posted on 4/14/2005 at 06:58 AM
Too bad the Eagles didn't do this!!! LOL After I swore I wouldn't, I did pay nearly $200 to see them in AC on Saturday. What scared me the most is I was one of the youngest people at the whole damn show and I'm 42!!! Great show though, played for 3 hours and they did have a twelve piece band, so some of the cost was justified.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2005 at 07:01 AM
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"Music Sounds Better on Grass," sources said.
Yup, that will sure help the ticket sales!


For some it helps the quality of the show as well

 

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Too bad the Eagles didn't do this!!! LOL After I swore I wouldn't, I did pay nearly $200 to see them in AC on Saturday. What scared me the most is I was one of the youngest people at the whole damn show and I'm 42!!! Great show though, played for 3 hours and they did have a twelve piece band, so some of the cost was justified.


We did that in 03.

I saw them in 1980.

My wife and youngest son had never seen them, and they are Derek's favorite band.

We did get our money's worth.

Very good show.

 

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Too bad the Eagles didn't do this!!! LOL After I swore I wouldn't, I did pay nearly $200 to see them in AC on Saturday. What scared me the most is I was one of the youngest people at the whole damn show and I'm 42!!! Great show though, played for 3 hours and they did have a twelve piece band, so some of the cost was justified.


We did that in 03.

I saw them in 1980.

My wife and youngest son had never seen them, and they are Derek's favorite band.

We did get our money's worth.

Very good show.


That's another reason I went Ron, the last and only time I saw them was in '80 too and this ticket was fifth row lower bowl first seat from the stage, so at least it was one of the better $200 seats, but at these prices I'll probably wait another 25 years! lol

 

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  posted on 4/14/2005 at 09:13 AM
Oh, puuuhleeease don't even get me started on the evil corporate empire that is Clear Channel. What they did to the PNC (formerly just known as the Garden State Arts Center) was an abomination. When they took over the venue and started "upgrading" the facility my husband worked on that project. He said they were adding more seats under the pavilion which would result in them regrading the lawn seats at a steeper angle to fit more in on the lawn, and that you wouldn't have a view. Sure enough we went that first summer, prices were way up and if you sat on the lawn you had a beautiful view of the large screen TVs that they had put up. And, let's not forget the added security - aka the NJ State Troopers who were kind enough to run each bike's VIN number and wait outside to question anyone who had irregularities after the concert. They can bite my *ss, we haven't been back since and won't be. It's a shame because growing up in NJ, it used to be a great place to see a show. Maybe I'm just getting old & grumpy ;-)
 

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No you're not!!! Running those VIN #'s while you're at the show? That's gotta be illegal if you were parked legally. I'd be furious. Heck I was furious at the ABB show last year when the guy jumps up onstage and starts mugging to the audience and security dives on him and then they all land on top of a bunch of people in the front row. Then they make a big show of dragging him offstage by his neck while his eyes are popping out of his head. If they were trying to send a message, what I got is they are a bunch of Gestapo a-holes and told a couple as much after the show I also sent a few emails to complain which the cowards never responded to. See... I'm still PO'd about it! They handled the Ozzfest better than the ABB show!

 

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YEA!! That hurt when they tried to choke me!

 

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No you're not!!! Running those VIN #'s while you're at the show? That's gotta be illegal if you were parked legally. I'd be furious.


I don't think this is any different than a DUI checkpoint. If you're drunk driving, but aren't breaking and road rules (speeding, swerving, running stop signs etc.), should they not be able to stop you? I believe the "routine traffic stop" falls into this category as well. It might suck, but I'm sure it's legal.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2005 at 01:30 AM
My friends recently bought U2 tix (ugh) for ATL for about $55 or so. They were some of the cheapest, I think, but it's good to know that the industry has realized their fall of the live show sales. I paid $100 each for Peter Gabriel seats 2 years ago and he was one of the first to willingly lower his prices as an artist. He took the loss while the promo co. continued to reap their benefits.

I just read in Rolling Stone that many rock radio stations are dumping their formats due to low ratings. CC has commercialized us enough with their bland playlists. Satellite Radio is kickng booty, due to their sheer volume of different styles of music available.

 

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  posted on 4/15/2005 at 02:41 AM
There IS a God!

My Arts Center ticket will cost less this summer...yahoooooooooooooooooo

And maybe THIS year, I won't have to go by myself because none of my friends could afford it!

Laura in NJ

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